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http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/twinkie-ceo-admits-company-took-employees-pensions-and-put-it?paging=offTwinkie CEO Admits Company Took Employees Pensions and Put It Toward Executive Pay
AlterNet / By Thom Hartmann
December 11, 2012 |
Twinkie-maker Hostess continues to screw over its workers. The company is in the process of complete liquidation and 18,000 unionized workers are set to lose their jobs. More troubling they could lose their pensions.
According to a report by the Wall Street Journal, Hostess CEO, Gregory Rayburn, essentially admitted that his company stole employee pension money and put it toward CEO and senior executive pay (aka operations). While this isn't technically illegal, it's another sleazy theft by Hostess executives - who've paid themselves handsomely while running their company into the ground. Just last month, a judge agreed to let Hostess executives suck another $1.8 million out of the bankrupt company to pay bonuses to CEOs.
If there's no way to recover the money for the Hostess pension plans for workers, then we the taxpayers - through the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. - will have to foot the bill to make sure workers get the retirement money they paid in.
Hostess shows us clearly what Bain-style predatory capitalism is all about: big bucks for the very few rich executives, layoffs and poverty for the workers and their communities.
catbyte
(34,402 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)And the teapublicans cheer this behavior
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)But they are now running a deficit and want to have the power to raise premiums. The Obama administration supports this power, but - wait for it - some in Congress are fighting it. Can to guess who is fighting it?
Read:
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-16/business/35505545_1_pbgc-premiums-pension-plans-troubled-pension-funds
That is not to say that the PBGC cannot go to Congress and ask for a bailout if needed, but that hasn't happened.
On a related issue - why in the hell the employees' contributions to their OWN pension plans pass through the employers' hands first is one of the first things that needs to be addressed. That money should go straight to a third party, where the corporate execs cannot even smell it, let alone steal it.
So, so, so Godamnned many things wrong with the laws in this country.
RegieRocker
(4,226 posts)liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)discharge
(41 posts)Wait'll Holder gets hold of this guy and prosecutes the shit outta him just like he did all the Wall Streeters.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)and not just for these particular corporate Ding Dongs.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)That's a good one...
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)iemitsu
(3,888 posts)criminal CEOs, with the court system behind them, can no longer do this legally.
It is difficult to believe that this has not already been addressed (not in the sense that "it couldn't happen here" but in the "how could our government be so corrupt" sense).
We need to call attention to this travesty of justice when calling our congresspeople to insure that the rich don't steal our Social Security.
The new America where the rich cannibalize the elderly.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I hate being so jaded about the issue, but Congress isn't going to lift a finger to help unions. If the Senate did vote to help it will go nowhere in the HoR.
I'm beginning to wonder how long until America is faced with its own October revolution.
On edit: I'm not looking forward to that.
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)but it is what ought to happen.
How can anyone in this country still believe the government is on our side.
All we are to them is a meal ticket.
brewens
(13,594 posts)Wouldn't that be a natural? Get people that never had a job with a pension fired up about their tax dollars going to pay other peoples pensions?
I can see why their leaders leave that alone. It's easier for them to loot those pension funds if it won't mean cutting people off completely. Not that the crooks would care either way.
raccoon
(31,111 posts)brewens
(13,594 posts)the PBGC but no one took the cheese. There have to be lots of right-wingers retired and collecting what they can from the PBGC. Maybe even RimJob and some of his buddies.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)mtasselin
(666 posts)Why are there not laws stopping this shit from happening, after all these years they still get away with it. If it is against the law throw their no good asses in prison, but can't wait for AG of the USA to do anything because he is incompetent
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...and is branded a crook for life.
When a Twinkie executive steals his or her employees' retirement money, he goes on the cover of Forbes as a hero.
How, um, odd*.
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* Fascistic, really.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)It's Les Miserables redone.Were all Jean Valjeans.
barbtries
(28,798 posts)yet it goes on and on unanswered and isn't even a crime?
Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)CanonRay
(14,104 posts)although I'm sure an army of company lawyers says it is.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)Approve them and take every cent to return to the pension fund.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)I don't understand how, after the Enron debacle, corporate executives still feel free to steal the pensions of tens of thousands of working people. These workers contributed portions of their salaries into these pensions. What the companies paid into the pension funds were also monies earned by the workers as deferred compensation. This money belonged to the workers.
Stealing this money is outright theft.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)What we need is an AG with more guts and even a spine that Eric the Holder. There HAS to be a way to prosecute this clear case of grand theft and embezzlement. Time for President Obama to get an AG that can do the job.
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)Definition of EMBEZZLE
: to appropriate (as property entrusted to one's care) fraudulently to one's own use <embezzled thousands of dollars>
em·bez·zle·ment noun
em·bez·zler noun
Sounds like that is what they did so why havent charges been filed?
EC
(12,287 posts)could be one of Liz Warren's first projects.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Corporations don't buy a paperclip unless it's spelled out in an official written policy, approved by lawyers.
Was this agreement conducted on the basis of a handshake? Why aren't there class action lawsuits being started right now?
This is bad faith bargaining at it's worst, the kind of thing that the LAW COURTS are MADE to enforce.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The CEO continue to steal and plunder and blame the lowly workers for all the problems, they must be idiots to think anyone believes their lies. Then we will probably have to cover the pensions funds, corporate welfare at its best. It is time to start putting these wonderful executives in prison in order to slow this fraud.
pipewrench
(194 posts)triplepoint
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Blue Owl
(50,414 posts)Talk about a spongy triple-injected cream-filled executive bonus, geez...
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)is a hierarchy of debt in BK's. The law makes sense, it's to protect the workers from not getting paid. Problem is.....the same law protected the d-bag management.
Here's a link to a story on it in Fortune magazine last August. It also gives you pretty good info on how the vulture capitalists are operating.
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/26/hostess-twinkies-bankrupt/
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Madoff promised people that he would invest their money and that--at the very least--the initial invested money would be returned to them.
Madoff did other things with the money and many lost millions.
Same thing with Hostess. They told employees, that as part of their compensation, that the company would set aside and invest a specific amount of money for them.
That never happened.
How is this not a crime? How is this not breach of contract?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)bl968
(360 posts)The workers should audit the books tracking where every dime of the pension money went to then file a class action civil suit against the executives who received the fruits. I bet it would succeed...
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)For these corporations to take money contractually obligated for one purpose and choose to use it for other things on a whim?
And why is it that we insist that USPS prefund its pensions, but apparently no company in the country is required to fund them, much less prefund them?
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)You ask good questions, but you ask the questions which a decent/honest/honorable person would ask.
That is taking a knife to a tank fight.
We just keep sharpening knives.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Stealing pensions used to be a crime. Did somebody change that law?
commenter8
(27 posts)White House petition to end corporate welfare here: http://wh.gov/Qa6f
mbperrin
(7,672 posts)#10