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Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:50 AM Jul 2018

Amlo's victory speech crowd size???

First: massive congrats on Almo’s historic victory for the people of Mexico!!!






Anyway ...

A few people have asked me what the estimated crowd size was in The Zócalo last night? Does anyone have any idea? Or good aerial pictures (aside from CNN)?

Thanks in advance

-Puzzler

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Judi Lynn

(160,649 posts)
3. Hard to see all the people considering speech was given at around 3:30 AM,
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jul 2018

in Mexico City, when just over 50% of the votes had been counted, showing a landslide victory, but crowds filled the Zócalo, plaza in the center of town.


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- click for photo -

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/supporters-of-the-presidential-candidate-for-the-juntos-haremos-picture-id989492066

Photo on this page:

https://www.elcuartodeguerra.com/tlaxcala/noticia/559-393-llama-amlo-a-la-reconciliacion-de-mexico-no-les-voy-a-fallar

In Tlaxcala:


Amlo friend Tlaxcala is with you'

Supporters and militants of Morena in Tlaxcala, went out tonight to the streets of the capital's zócalo to celebrate the virtual triumph of López Obrador to the Presidency of Mexico.

The streets of the capital city were filled with entire families, who shouting "Amlo amigo Tlaxcala está contigo" celebrated the fact that López Obrador swept the electoral preferences of this day.

Simultaneously celebrations in different parts of the country are experienced, since Morena also won governorships, delegations, deputies, senators and heads, according to the PREP, the votes in Tlaxcala.

https://www.elcuartodeguerra.com/tlaxcala/noticia/51-609-tlaxcaltecas-salen-a-festejar-triunfo-de-lopez-obrador

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/supporters-of-the-presidential-candidate-for-the-juntos-haremos-picture-id989492066





ETC.

Looks like a decent turnout of Mexican citizens crowding the Zócalo, far after midnight, when the victory was announced and López Obrador was able to make a victory speech.

Judi Lynn

(160,649 posts)
4. Why would a few people ask you how many people crowded the center of Mexico City?
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 01:09 PM
Jul 2018

Are you perceived as "Mr. or Ms. Mexico" in your circle of acquaintances?

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
5. No ... just a couple a friends that used to live there
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jul 2018

it was just a conversational question.

Seriously, that’s all there is to it, since I couldn’t find references on Google at the time.

Here’s a link to a good aerial view

http://www.newsbangladesh.com/english/details/31503



-Puzzler

Judi Lynn

(160,649 posts)
6. That's a great photo. Good news about leftists is usually played way down in the U.S.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jul 2018

or ignored altogether, or totally misrepresented through the ubiquitous perception management of the corporate media, in play continually since propaganda went pro with the overthrow of leftist Guatemalan President, Jacobo Arbenz in 1954.



Thank you!


Tracing conspicuous use of corporate media for perception management by the US gov't, see Edward Bernays, Wikipedia:

Edward Louis Bernays (/bərˈneɪz/; German: [bɛɐ̯ˈnaɪs]; November 22, 1891 ? March 9, 1995) was an Austrian-American pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda, referred to in his obituary as "the father of public relations".[2] Bernays was named one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century by Life.[3] He was the subject of a full length biography by Larry Tye called The Father of Spin (1999) and later an award-winning 2002 documentary for the BBC by Adam Curtis called The Century of the Self.

His best-known campaigns include a 1929 effort to promote female smoking by branding cigarettes as feminist "Torches of Freedom" and his work for the United Fruit Company connected with the CIA-orchestrated overthrow of the democratically elected Guatemalan government in 1954. He worked for dozens of major American corporations including Procter & Gamble and General Electric, and for government agencies, politicians, and non-profit organizations.

. . .

United Fruit and Guatemala
See also: 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
The United Fruit Company (today's Chiquita Brands International) hired Bernays in the early 1940s for the purpose of promoting banana sales within the United States. Promote them he did, by linking bananas to good health and to American interests, and by placing them strategically in the hands of celebrities, in hotels, and other conspicuous places. Bernays also argued that United Fruit needed to put a positive spin on the banana-growing countries themselves, and for this purpose created a front group called the Middle America Information Bureau, which supplied information to journalists and academics.[47]

United Fruit shut down the Middle America Information Bureau in 1948 under the new presidency of Thomas Dudley Cabot. Bernays resented this change but stayed on with the company, for a reported annual fee of more than $100,000.[48] Bernays worked on the national press and successfully drummed up coverage of Guatemala’s Communist menace.[49]

The company became alarmed about the political situation in Guatemala after Jacobo Árbenz Guzman became president in March 1951. On March 21, 1951, Bernays told United Fruit’s head of publicity, Edmund Whitman, that Guatemala could reprise Iran’s recent nationalization of British Petroleum:

We recommend that immediate steps be undertaken to safeguard American business interests in Latin American countries against comparable action there. News knows no boundaries today. . . . To disregard the possibilities of the impact of events one upon another is to adopt a head-in-the-sand-ostrich policy.

He recommended a campaign in which universities, lawyers, and the U.S. government would all condemn expropriation as immoral and illegal; the company should use media pressure "to induce the President and State Department to issue a policy pronouncement comparable to the Monroe Doctrine concerning expropriation." In the following months, the New York Times, the New York Herald Tribune, Time, Newsweek, and the Atlantic Monthly had all published articles describing the threat of Communism in Guatemala. A Bernays memo in July 1951 recommended that this wave of media attention should be translated into action by promoting:

(a) a change in present U.S. ambassadorial and consular representation, (b) the imposition of congressional sanctions in this country against government aid to pro-Communist regimes, (c) U.S. government subsidizing of research by disinterested groups like the Brookings Institution into various phases of the problem.[50]

Per Bernays’s strategy, United Fruit distributed favorable articles and an anonymous Report on Guatemala to every member of Congress and to national "opinion molders".[51][52] They also published a weekly Guatemala Newsletter and sent it to 250 journalists, some of whom used it as a source for their reporting.[52] Bernays formed close relationships with journalists including New York Times reporter Will Lissner at and columnist Walter Winchell.[49][50] In January 1952 he brought a cohort of journalists from various notable newspapers on a tour of Guatemala, sponsored by the company. This technique proved highly effective and was repeated four more times.[52] In June, 1954, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency effected a coup d’état code-named Operation PBSUCCESS. The CIA backed a minimal military force, fronted by Carlos Castillo Armas, with a psychological warfare campaign to portray military defeat as a foregone conclusion. During the coup itself, Bernays was the primary supplier of information for the international newswires Associated Press, United Press International and the International News Service.[53][54]

More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

and:

1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

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