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Judi Lynn

(160,609 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:36 PM Jun 2012

Frank talk on tough issues at Summit of the Americas

Frank talk on tough issues at Summit of the Americas
Published 1 hour 26 minutes ago
Andrés González and Sherry Tross

The Sixth Summit of the Americas, held a few weeks ago in Cartagena, Colombia, produced concrete, specific mandates. The region’s leaders opted for frank talk on tough issues, including some with major points of disagreement. No topic was off the table, according to Colombia’s President Juan Manuel Santos.

Calling the meeting the “summit of dialogue and sincerity,” Santos stressed the benefit to the region of “putting aside long silences” and speaking candidly, not only about the issues that unite the countries but also those that are divisive.

The Cartagena meeting was refreshingly frank. Countries clearly articulated their positions on such issues as the war on drugs, the status of Cuba in the inter-American system and the issue of the Malvinas Islands — topics on which there are significant differences.

This combination of honest dialogue and intense listening has not always been quite as evident in a region with agreements and disagreements between North and South. That combination in Cartagena is perhaps reflective of a more mature dialogue in which countries agree to disagree on specific policy issues, even as they acknowledge the importance of collaboration and multilateral engagement in advancing development, security, democracy and human rights, among other areas.

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http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1212366--frank-talk-on-tough-issues-at-summit-of-the-americas

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Frank talk on tough issues at Summit of the Americas (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2012 OP
Thanks, Judi! It's good to get some idea of what this Summit was about... Peace Patriot Jun 2012 #1

Peace Patriot

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1. Thanks, Judi! It's good to get some idea of what this Summit was about...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:08 AM
Jun 2012

...since the Corpo-Fascist press here was only interested in the Secret Service party-on.

Really, U.S. policies, whether run by Pukes or Democrats, are so awful--selling out our people here, enslaving and robbing people here and elsewhere, serving war profiteers and the transglobal rich--that I have seriously considered whether or not the Secret Service scandal, and also the flight of the blind dissident in China (Chen Guangcheng), were both manufactured incidents to hide what the U.S. was really up to, in Cartagena and in China.

We really need to ask what Corpo-Fascist press headlines are HIDING--because it has so often been true that they are hiding something--and we need to further ask "who benefits" from the headline, and who is in a position to create the headline, covertly or overtly.

I think that the most likely conniver of the Secret Service scandal was Uribe's criminal organization in Colombia, possibly in alliance with covert Bushwhack/far right operatives within U.S. agencies, and is possibly related to the Panetta/Santos connection (Panetta removing Uribe from power because he was/is just too dirty to run U.S. "free trade for the rich" in Colombia, and vetting and approving Santos), and/or to war profiteer interests or Big Pharma's big move on legalization of drugs (Santos for, Uribe against). Uribe may be feeling petulant. He got rid of the peasants for these transglobal interests (FIVE MILLION peasant farmers brutally displaced during his/Bush's tenure). He decapitated the labor movement for them. He consolidated the trillion+ dollar cocaine revenue stream into fewer hands (got rid of the bit players), let the Pentagon and its 'contractors' get in some shooting practice and even tried to immunize all U.S. personnel from Colombian laws. He may feel that the U.S. "Medal of Freedom" (conferred by Junior), cushy academic sinecures at Harvard and Georgetown and protection from prosecution (like his pals, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Junior--conferred by Obama, monitored/enforced by Panetta) is not enough reward for his efforts.

I would think that his criminal organization--which, when it was running Colombia, created a vast illegal spying capability (with the Bush Junta's help)--could ferret out a weakness in the Secret Service and exploit it with local prostitutes.

There are other possibilities--including Obama/Clinton operatives actually creating the incident as P.R.-flak cover for something (or for many things)--less likely--and--more likely--Panetta/Bush Sr. not liking how the Secret Service is currently constituted and needing an excuse for a purge. (It's quite interesting how Scumbag/Diebold-installed Congress members got into this scandal with such alacrity demanding "answers," as if on cue. We've seen this before from the more obviously not-elected members of Congress, on LatAm matters in particular--an orchestrated campaign to pressure/blackmail Obama).

But Uribe is my main suspect (as to smearing the Secret Service). It's the sort of thing that well-connected mafias do. (--though it's also something that the CIA does.)

The China thing is more clear-cut, because the person seeing to U.S. transglobal corporate interests in the China talks--Hillary Clinton herself--was in a position (as head of the State Department) to directly orchestrate the dissident's flight to the U.S. (His story was a bit murky. National Chinese leaders were NOT oppressing him; it was LOCAL leaders?) That's all we heard about the U.S. talks with China, from the Corpo-Fascist press. My first thought about that headline was: What is Clinton giving away? (How is she selling us out? What services is she rendering to transglobal interests, that she and the Corpo-Fascist press don't want us to know about? What was going on that Chen Guangcheng's "escape" was the P.R.-flak cover for?)

As for the Summit of the Americas, and what was happening there, among LatAm leaders, and between LatAm leaders and the U.S. leaders, this opinion piece is not that much help but at least it sketches in some of the issues, controversies and goals that might actually affect peoples' lives. (I mean, WHO CARES if the Secret Service has some fun in Cartagena?! Or in Washington DC for that matter!) But the article is rather heavily slanted toward the U.S. and the OAS being good guys, which is laughable. (It's written by Colombia's rep to the OAS and the OAS Secretariat's executive secretary.) It is a U.S.-oriented "think tank" sort of article. Example:

"A few days before the Cartagena meeting, the Inter-American Dialogue think-tank launched a report called Remaking the Relationship: The United States and Latin America, in which it noted, 'Three long unresolved problems that cause strain and frustration in inter-American affairs — immigration, drugs and Cuba — demand especially urgent attention.' The report further called on the countries in the Summit of the Americas process to resolve these issues 'in order to build more productive partnerships.'” --from the OP (see the OP for links)

The U.S.-dominated OAS has failed to solve these matters--"immigration, drugs and Cuba"--BECAUSE it is U.S.-dominated. The U.S. has OBSTRUCTED the will of the vast majority of Latin Americans, who have long wanted drugs legalized and Cuba recognized. And our government has also been quite vicious in trying to destroy Latin America's efforts to end poverty, and has used the OAS toward that end. Poverty is the main driver of immigration to the U.S. It is also the main driver of the lucrative illicit drug trade. But the U.S. hates and reviles the very leaders in LatAm--the many new leftist leaders--who have significantly reduced poverty with their "New Deal"-like policies, and actively seeks to topple these governments. And they succeeded in one case--Honduras--using the OAS to do so!

The writers of this article white-wash these issues but at least they mention them. The Corpo-Fascist press coverage of the Summit, on the other hand, was only useful in revealing that prostitution is LEGAL in Cartagena (as it should be here) as a footnote to the Secret Service party.

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