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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 12:52 AM Apr 2013

It’s official now…

It’s official now…

Ladies and gentlemen…the president of Venezuela, NICOLAS MADURO:



That’s Chavecito’s daughter, María Gabriela, helping National Assembly president Diosdado Cabello put the sash on her dad’s successor. It’s now official, legal, signed, sealed and delivered. And frankly, nobody cares what those xx's at the State Dept. think.

Meanwhile, here’s the most touching photo of the event:



The president of Argentina, Cristina Fernández, gives María Gabriela a hug. Cristina’s had some grief of her own to deal with, what with the sudden death of her husband, former president Néstor Kirchner, last year. So she knows exactly what Chavecito’s family are going through. And it’s a way for her to pay back the comfort and affection Chavecito gave her in her hour of need, too.

This is what love and solidarity look like.

http://www.sabinabecker.com/2013/04/festive-left-friday-blogging-too-its-official-now.html

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It’s official now… (Original Post) Catherina Apr 2013 OP
" what with the sudden death of her husband, former president Néstor Kirchner, last year" naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #1
And her grief continued through 2011 which is when they grew close and the comforting came in Catherina Apr 2013 #2
huh? naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #3
My factual error? It's a linked article Catherina Apr 2013 #4
You said Nestor Kirchner died "last year" naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #5
This is why we can't have real conversations. You can't read. Catherina Apr 2013 #8
Yes you are correct, my apologies. nt naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #19
OP said no such thing. You should apologise if you have any integrity left. idwiyo Apr 2013 #10
Thanks but his apology wouldn't mean anything to me Catherina Apr 2013 #11
They should apologise regardless. It's the right thing to do, even more so because they questioned idwiyo Apr 2013 #12
I'm not going to hold my breath that he has the integrity to do so Catherina Apr 2013 #13
It's unclear who wrote it. joshcryer Apr 2013 #15
It was perfectly clear to start with. It was made even more clear by the OP in post #4. idwiyo Apr 2013 #16
Thank you for adding the assistance for the hard-of-grasping group who wandered into DU. Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #17
Yes, I can read. joshcryer Apr 2013 #18
Viva Venezuela! Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #6
I know lol Catherina Apr 2013 #7
K&R Congrats to Venezuela! idwiyo Apr 2013 #9
It was meaningful seeing María Gabriela step over to take part on the Presidential sash Judi Lynn Apr 2013 #14
Now that he's won fair and square, he has to govern. Clearly, half the population is not Flatulo Apr 2013 #20
 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
1. " what with the sudden death of her husband, former president Néstor Kirchner, last year"
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:01 AM
Apr 2013

He died in October, 2010. FYI.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. And her grief continued through 2011 which is when they grew close and the comforting came in
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:04 AM
Apr 2013

what with the commas and all.

At least that's how I read it.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
4. My factual error? It's a linked article
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:10 AM
Apr 2013

I understand very well what Sabrina wrote. I see why you read it differently but if you have any correction to make to the author, I'm not the author.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
5. You said Nestor Kirchner died "last year"
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:17 AM
Apr 2013

He died in October 2010. That was a simply factual error. If you can't acknowledge being wrong on an obvious yet meaningless error, why should you be believed on anything else?

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
8. This is why we can't have real conversations. You can't read.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:25 AM
Apr 2013

What part of "it's not my article" do you not understand?

All you have to do is click on the damn link to confirm I didn't write that.

Your little game is tiresome. Not to mention that you look like an absolute fool saying that "I" said that. Like I said earlier, when the masks fall off, they really fall off.

Believe me, don't believe me. Do I look like I give a fuck what you think? Especially when you breathlessly seized this little "factual error" which is not even mine, to launch a petty attack on me. I'm embarrassed for you. It's not worth continuing this or any other conversation.

I'm sorry (not) that your guy lost. Go bang a pot or something.


“Pots for sale. Guaranteed until the year 2019 when Nicolás Maduro's term ends. Take advantage!”

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
11. Thanks but his apology wouldn't mean anything to me
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:17 AM
Apr 2013

Naaman's been playing a little game and I'm actually quite happy he just showed everyone his true colors. I've actually pdf'd the conversation for future reference and am going to ignore his posts from now on because his childish responses and snide dishonesty are a waste of time.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
12. They should apologise regardless. It's the right thing to do, even more so because they questioned
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:21 AM
Apr 2013

YOUR integrity, and did so based on the bullshit pretence.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
13. I'm not going to hold my breath that he has the integrity to do so
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 02:36 AM
Apr 2013

because he knew when he wrote that, that it was a lie. And if he didn't, he damn sure did after I clearly pointed it out and he persisted and threw in his little insult. The people whose opinions matter already know what to think of my integrity. Naaman doesn't have the capability to change that. What he just did was clearly prove that he has no more integrity than his candidate who was ready to burn his country down rather than be deprived of his birthright. This is actually a fitting outcome and it relieves me of any need to be cordial to him. I'm actually quite pleased lol. But I love you.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
15. It's unclear who wrote it.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 03:16 AM
Apr 2013

The OP doesn't actually clarify that not one bit of its content is their own, but rather someone else's blog (which has been spammed here frequently), verbatim. Also, one tends to stop reading links and writing when something so blatant sticks out. I know I myself will stop reading something if I know for a fact its objectively untrue. naaman could've done that and not clicked the ambiguous link (had it said "Source:" at the minimum, this derailment wouldn't be happening).

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
16. It was perfectly clear to start with. It was made even more clear by the OP in post #4.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:22 AM
Apr 2013

Yet the person you are so faithfully defending refused to acknowledge they were wrong and persisted with their accusations about OP's integrity in post #5.

Anyone with even an ounce of integrity left would have apologised immediately.

Response to Catherina (Reply #2)Sat Apr 20, 2013, 05:06 AM
naaman fletcher (6,542 posts)
3. huh?
What are you talking about? I was simply correcting your factual error.


Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #3)Sat Apr 20, 2013, 05:10 AM
Catherina (28,319 posts)
4. My factual error? It's a linked article
I understand very well what Sabrina wrote. I see why you read it differently but if you have any correction to make to the author, I'm not the author.


Response to Catherina (Reply #4)Sat Apr 20, 2013, 05:17 AM
naaman fletcher (6,542 posts)
5. You said Nestor Kirchner died "last year"
He died in October 2010. That was a simply factual error. If you can't acknowledge being wrong on an obvious yet meaningless error, why should you be believed on anything else?


P.S. Bolding is mine to highlight the relevant text.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
17. Thank you for adding the assistance for the hard-of-grasping group who wandered into DU.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:36 AM
Apr 2013

If that doesn't help, then it's really hopeless!

You're right about the clarity. There was NOTHING which should lead anyone to misunderstand it, for crying out loud.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
18. Yes, I can read.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:37 AM
Apr 2013

And I do not attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity. After the first exchange (where the OP says, "it's a linked article&quot I would've gone over the post. naaman should have done that. Clearly though it's not apparent that the OP posted the blog post verbatim. You have to follow the link to know that, and if you spotted something totally false, you might not follow the link. I'm familiar with people posting articles without distinguishing their comments or the article comments (in this case the OP had no comments, it was entirely someone elses article).

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
14. It was meaningful seeing María Gabriela step over to take part on the Presidential sash
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 03:04 AM
Apr 2013

her own father had worn with such pride. I'm sure there were tears in a lot of eyes of people who watched the ceremony.

Cristina was the one, the only one the daughters called to come to their father's bedside at the end. It's evidence of the trust and love they bear for her, and her value to the whole family. I'm sure their friendship will help them all heal together.

And it WAS a sudden death when Nestor Kirchner, without warning, died swiftly and no one, no one at all had any idea this was coming. It was a shock which would have leveled a weak person, but Cristina somehow found the way to keep on moving and functioning, carrying out her duties.

She has earned the respect of many, regardless of the war which has been waged upon her by the Argentinian fascists still remaining from the military dictatorship and its cronies, and corporatists all over the world. People of character will always respect Christina, just as they do Hugo Chavez.

Thanks for these photos, and more from Sabina Becker. No one sensible confuses an original posted article with a DU poster's personal comments, you can rest assured!

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
20. Now that he's won fair and square, he has to govern. Clearly, half the population is not
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:25 AM
Apr 2013

happy with the redistributionist policies and expropriations of the Chavistas. Or maybe it's the reported decline in infrastructure.

I wish him luck. I see a lot of analogies to our own polarized society. It's a recipe for gridlock, like we have here. You can't have two equal halves of a society calling each other treasonous bastards.

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