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http://www.telesurtv.net/el-canal/senal-en-vivoCurrently showing a huge happy cheering crowd, quite red lol, waving flags in front of the National Assembly. I'm not sure how soon the official ceremony will start.
Also shoots of dignitaries and foreign political representatives arriving. Peru now.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)He's speaking now.
Info: Democracy Now Exclusive Interview with Manuel Zelaya on the U.S. Role in Honduran Coup, WikiLeaks and Why He Was Ousted
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Ok, when does this really start? The ceremony I mean.
It sounds like an all-day party lol!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Well at least I think it's starting. He did enter but the commentator is talking, talking...
More guests are arriving...
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)as they just pointed out. I'm loving it.
You did good Hugo. You did a great thing for your people. RIP dear one
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)ocpagu
(1,954 posts)Wonderful comments by the supporters of Maduro!
Congratulations, Maduro and Venezuela!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)What did I miss?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Assasination attempt?
I heard yelling "Nicolas my llamo Andr/ and men rushing forward but it was out of the corner of my eye.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)José Crettaz ?@jcrettaz 1m
Incidente en asunción #Venezuela: se fue la cadena y cuando vuelve Maduro dice "falló la seguridad, me podrían haber dado un tiro aquí"
José Crettaz @ jcrettaz 1m
Assumption Incident # Venezuela: the network(camera) cut away and when it returns Maduro says "security failed, I could have been shot here"
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)Didn't understand what happened.
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)I'm surprised it wasn't someone yelling "I'm a poster from the US who has infested a message board for progressives. I've gone ape-shit since the election failed, likely to be dangerous. Run for your lives."
It's so important to learn what the heck happened. Thanks for the alert.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)An opposition shit interrupted Maduro's speech and the camera signal of the national cameras was cut.
LMAO!! Laughing at the dismissive "we'll talk with that comrade later" lol.
"Falló la seguridad, me pudieron dar un tiro", dijo Maduro. "Después conversaremos con este compatriota"
"Security failed, they could have shot me" said Maduro. "We'll converse with that compatriot (the opposition who interrupted) later."
Will keep looking
Catherina
(35,568 posts)But Nicolas, this is no joke, Castro warned both you and Chavez. And Chavez warned you to be very careful. Be very very careful. Your enemies will stop at nothing.
April 20, 2013
Youth shoves new Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro during his inaugural speech
A man in a red jacket is restrained as he tries to approach new Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro during his inauguration. Picture: AFP/Francisco Boza
VENEZUELA'S new President Nicolas Maduro was roughly pushed aside by a youth in a red shirt who ran on stage during his inaugural address.
The young man jumped on stage at the National Assembly and grabbed the microphone from Maduro.
The incident caused momentary confusion as national television coverage of the event briefly went off the air, returning after Maduro had regained his composure and the youth had been moved off stage.
"Incident overcome," said Maduro, saying he would speak to the man after the address and then continuing with his speech.
...
http://www.news.com.au/world-news/youth-shoves-new-venezuelan-leader-nicolas-maduro-during-his-inaugural-speech/story-fndir2ev-1226624868464
Catherina
(35,568 posts)but this story is everywhere. Such content in the Anglo news lol.
The broadcast cut away, then returned to the lectern and Maduro, who continued his speech.
"He could have shot me here," Maduro said, dressing down his security detail before continuing with his address.
...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/nicolas-maduro-inauguration-intruder_n_3118178.html
A video grab
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2013/04/19/at-inauguration-venezuelas-maduro-off-to-a-tough-start/
The incoming president responded by criticising his security.
"I could have been shot here," he told the audience.
Then as he regained his composure he added: "Incident overcome. I will try to speak to this man later."
The motives of the man, who wore a red jacket - the colour favoured by "Chavistas" - and only managed to say his name before being hustled away, were not immediately clear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22220526
Right. "We need an international intervention. " "We're being repressed" " I had to sell my second condo" "We don't want them coming into our neighborhoods" "Israel and America come save us"
You know they're just itching to start yelling that they need a no-fly zone.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Look how close he got
Nicolás Maduro's swearing in speech is interrupted by a man who pushed him from the microphone before being bundled off stage. Photograph: Francisco Boza/EPA
And a little tidbit of something we missed
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/8683
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Note Capriles much more reasonable, less cowardly, calm response.
Maduro whines "I could've been shot."
Capriles hugs him and continues speaking!
Night and day between them.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)They are in a competition to see who can be the most absurd party crasher of political events.
Pretty funny.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)The more I observe Maduro, the more I think he's the one who had the influence on Chavez and his move towards marxism
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)"We don't belong to any elite"
"How many friends we had to burry"
References to El Caracazo, FMI, World Bank, Neoliberalism, refusal of the people.
Wonderful speech indeed. He's not afraid of touching the sore points.
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)I can't listen, understand and type that quickly lol.
But he just cracked everyone up. Bush won by only 0.04 percent of the vote and suddenly it was "the Holy Word of God" lol
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)...which is very different (and faster) in comparison to Argentina's castellano, which I'm more used to listen.
I'd like to highlight he made nice, conciliating comments about Colombia, praised Cuba ("daughter of Bolivar" , and the points of the meeting of UNASUR in Lima.
Some sentences which I liked:
"I'm a fighter, a warrior, I'll go on, and I'm sure this government will be a government of progress (...), that will overcome all the difficulties"
"We are the ones who can conduct this ship"
"Diosdado proposed (...) and I approved a program to urbanize the "barrios" (...) extending missiones to more than 3,000,000 homes."
"We will respect the oppositionist governors, we will recognize (the oppositionist) governors" (crowds booed a bit when hearing the word "oppositionist"
"He have here the political testament of the Giant (Cháves), of what to do, how to do"
"We have a huge cultural and artistic movement (supporting us)"
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Chavez was a very smart, very philosophical, very learned man. And an extremely good speaker.
Maduro was a bus driver idiot yes man. And a shitty speaker who says crazy talk half the time.
Chavez could quote word for word huge chunks of anything he read and very often used word for word quotations in his speeches.
Maduro couldn't quote something written on the back of his hand.
What a disgusting insult.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Still you persist in making dishonest and juvenile responses every chance you get. Though I suppose for you a is pretty erudite.
I do not respect you Joshcryer because you distort things, you fight against the Left while parading around as a Left Anarchist, oh wait, that was last year, this year you're suddenly a strange animal you call a Libertarian Socialist, with the emphasis being on Libertarian I'm sure.
For years you've denigrated, insulted, lied about Chavez and other Leftists in this forum. Now that Chavez has died and you need to beat on Maduro, you expect everyone to forget your years of vile posts and believe your latest invention that you "admired Chavez".
"Bus driver idiot yes man" is just the kind of elitist, arrogant attitude the people you've supported for years have against the common people of Venezuela. It comes as no surprise that you openly said that without even realizing how it further defines you in a derogatory manner.
As to the rest of your bullshit, it's just that, more bullshit. The "shitty speaker who says crazy talk half the time" is actually an excellent description of most of your posts.
Now. I am going to put you back on ignore with a clear, direct request that you stop following me around with your particular brand of juvenile posts and putrid vomit. Why you insist on continuously talking with someone who's made it quite clear that they have you on ignore, how much they loathe you and why, is beyond me.
To make it very clear, you're one of the very few on DU that I really loathe so try to respect yourself and quit responding to me.
This post is on record for any future bullshit.
Try to grow up.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)I may have made one or two snide remarks but I have not "for years" "denigrated, insulted, lied about Chavez." Like many supporters of the authoritarian left the truth is simply not capable of being realized. If some criticism is made they will denigrate you from the get-go, they will trash you, they will fill your screens with their swill, patting each other on the back in the process, in a bullying, vile, despicable way that only the authoritarian left can muster. Not using ignore you come to get a thick skin to this abuse.
I wish you would stop reading my posts and actually realize my ignore, but I suspect you are constantly seeing what I write here (the fact that you know I am a libertarian socialist indicates you've read many of my posts in this forum). I am not responding to you, I am responding untruths that you post. The ignorance of acting as if Chavez was influenced by Maduro. What a total joke of epic proportions, anyone can watch a Chavez speech and see how much of an articulate orator he was. Anyone can look at his citations in a speech and find that he quotes something word for word. This is an extremely remarkable talent.
BTW, just to underscore the ignorance more, "libertarian socialist" was used in the context of anarchist. All anarchists are libertarian socialists (but not all libertarian socialists are anarchists). But it doesn't surprise me you'd be ignorant of this. I mean, you thought Maduro influenced Chavez. That's just rich.
Anyway, I won't respond to you except for the more atrocious or idiotic things being posted. I haven't actually responded to you terribly much, but I refuse to not respond to an OP that you make, if that OP has content worthy of my discussion. Especially since you have taken it upon yourself to infuse the Latin American forum with propaganda.
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)has tried to highjack. You apparently failed to notice how MANY of us truly look for her posts, and have thanked her so many times for making this place really hum during what would otherwise have been just another pointless trip to the LA forum to see your tiny mob attacking other posters.
She aims to learn in her lifetime, to discover the information which our own corporate media has always hidden from the very audience it serves. She makes every effort to learn, and she has honored us with sharing things she absolutely KNOWS we all want and need to see, ourselves. We have been so fortunate every day of this election, as we have been given the privilege of having so many things available which would have taken us forever to find on our own. This forum has been working for the benefit of all DU progressives interested in knowing what our country has been doing in and to Latin America, in spite of the frantic efforts of a very small circle of jerks.
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joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Despite being called a right winger, despite lies being told on a fairly regular basis, despite propaganda and misinformation. Indeed, the implication is in your very post, but you don't outright say it as others have done here.
This is what I'm talking about when I talk about patting each other on the back. Who cares about actually analyzing the situation. Who cares about looking at the gray areas. Who cares about the facts. The people who disagree are wrong, right winger, fascists, CIA goons. And of course, revisionism of the highest order.
You claim you could find evidence easily to support your claims against critics, but you can't, because the claims are false. Like your typical Two Minutes hate, you must muster an Emmanuel Goldstein because in the end you don't have a truly substantive argument. It's all empty rhetoric.
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)when we know personally they attacked him every single time they came to this forum, they mocked him, they lied about his remarks, his Presidential acts, his expressions, they support the Venezuelan oligarchs who have publicly called him a clumsy ape, and worse than that, the same oligarchs who have even called for his assassination publicly.
They couldn't throw enough mud and crap at the man before he died, and now that he's gone, they spin around 180 degrees and start lying out their asses about their high regard for Chavez in order to keep (in their own "minds" from looking so predictable when they start raving about how much they hate the next President the Venezuelan people elected.
You have exactly the right idea. It only takes a quick glance to see what these clowns are doing here.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I appreciate your support and confirmation. It's unfortunate for some that between DU and google, all you have to do is plug in a name and a keyword to get a shitload of examples of what you said and I said. And many corrections from a slew of other posters.
I also know that all the articles I translated were a major inconvenience to their propaganda efforts that Capriles, from a rightwing party, backed by the Venezuelan and Business elite, the Oil Cartels and the banks, was any sort of a "progressive".
This forum would have been snowed with rightwing propaganda like those bullshit pictures of ballots being burned. You can see several example threads of that and they're all from the same few people.
I suggest they do what their rightwing candidate told them to do a few days ago- go bang on pots and pans lol.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Always for the people!
I will not allow the racism and the old order to exploit the humble ones (the poor)...
I extend my hand, I wanted a direct dialogue with everyone , want to hear their reasons, if there are differences, that's ok, we'll talk, but we (sorry, I already forgot what he said but the room broke into loud applause)
Catherina
(35,568 posts)the food, the electricity, the economy...
We call on the opposition to CONVERSE, in respect for the country.
I'll even talk with Carmona so he'll stop his hate against the Venezuelan people, against the constitution.
We've won 18 elections. People should realize what kind of support that proves, coming from the people.
I'm guarantee Chavez' Dream.
... 14th April was a historic day (Chavissimo won) but that didn't please everyone....
This isn't the first time that the revolution has encountered problems (talks about the electrical and economic sabotages)...
Catherina
(35,568 posts)He won't allow any more sabotage of the people's services.
The revolution is going to be radicalized, not slowed down.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)The union of the electrical workers claims loyalty to the nation and denies sabotage... are they lying?
Anyway, we will see what happens this year.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)with the government. If you remotely cared Naaman, I'd take the time to dig up the links but it's pretty clear you really don't
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)the head of the union has denied sabotage. If you remotely cared Catherina, I'd take the time to dig up the links but its pretty clear you don't.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)Labor unions that support Chavista conspiracy theories are good, and labor unions that support their workers against charges of sabotage are tools of the CIA. Right?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)But if you meant that as an example of reasoning skills, it explains a lot.
Go bang a pot or a pan. Both if you need to. It won't make your guy President but it might make you feel less frustrated.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)they understood that socialism was the only answer for the people.
I'm sorry, I understand as he's speaking but I'm not good enough to listen and type because I get confused and forget
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)I'd love to learn the techniques used by professional translators in live transmissions, LOL.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)... is now talking about the leftist movements in Latin America, in the past and now, names some leaders.
"Only by being united we can consolidate the dream of the Great Fatherland".
"The 19th century was the century of division, the 20th century was the century of imperial domination, and the 21st century is the century of union (...) Latin America will work together to eliminate the threaten of wars"
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)And the first working class president
Thank you so much.
"Independence and socialist fatherland
Hasta la victoria siempre
Chávez Vive!"
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I was working this morning and couldn't watch. I am a little teary at the wonderful speech.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)What I heard moved me. I thought it was tremendous.
He's as good a speaker as Chavez and I believe he's going to be as loved.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)What a wonderful and remarkable day. I'm looking forward to President Maduro's terms.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I'm looking forward to it too. It's strange, I have so many windows open and get absorbed in other links while Telesur drones on, hidden behind other windows. So I drift a bit and think that Chavez is speaking because his voice, his speech sound so similar lol. It's as if Chavez never left.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I'm getting chills...
Right now its various units of military units running past, in formation, shouting "Chavez Vive! La Lucha Sigue!"
And before that, another unit ran past chanting " Anti-Capitalista, Anti-Imperialista"
Now they're shout chanting "Somos Socialistas" run-marching past .
The parade is in celebration of the 203rd anniversary of the First Uprising for Venezuela's independence.
Well done. The symbolism due to the coincidence of dates plays well.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Do you know if there is a transcript of the speech or a video with an English translation?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I'm hoping Venezuela Analysis will do a reliable translation soon
Swearing In and Signing In
Speech - Part 2
Speech - Part 3