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Related: About this forumProtests have already started according to private media. Rightwingers are *finding* "ballot boxes"
Fotos | Protestas en Barinas por hallazgo de material electoral
:51 pm | A. - From the early hours of this morning the city of Barinas is the scene of fierce protests after the discovery of two boxes allegedly containing ballots from the elections held yesterday.
The boxes were found by a citizen who was passing the backbone of the National Highway 005 Barinas-San Cristobal.
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http://www.elmundo.com.ve/Noticias/Actualidad/Noticias/Fotos---Protestas-en-Barinas-por-hallazgo-de-mater.aspx
The crowd demanded these ballots be audited. The authorities refused. The Capriles fanatics got angry. Police were called. Tear gas and rubber bullets allegedly fired to disperse the crowd. The police seized the "evidence" that the person who happened to "find" it wouldn't turn over. They're still there waiting for an official statement from the CNE. Unknown number of injured and arrested.
Reported by El Mundo, opposition paper equivalent to Fox News.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The final polls put Maduro 8-10% ahead of Capriles, yet the final vote was 2%.
Perhaps their was a Florida 2000 style fraud on behalf of the neo-liberal Capriles.
Perhaps he and his followers are upset their Katherine Harris' and Ken Blackwell's could not pull off an electoral theft.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)How convenient to "find" ballots here and there. If they can't cheat the vote they'll create chaos, sounds like that's part of the plan and I hope people know to keep safe, yikes.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Jorge Rodríguez just plainly stated it, that the Venezuelan right wants to create a climate of apprehension and destabilization, [link: http://www.correodelorinoco.gob.ve/nacionales/capriles-no-sabe-perder-y-llama-a-desestabilizacion/|"using the same strategies, the same psychological warfare and the same lies repeated a thousand times,"] the years 2002 and 2003. "The attempt to manipulate is too blatant."
Who didn't see this coming?
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Consider this right wing article condemning Democrats for "finding" ballots.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)so he is either lying, or they don't secure their boxes very well.
Tonight should be interesting.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)There will probably be "lost" boxes here or there, this sort of thing happens. Internet rumors and paranoia don't help, unfortunately.
The important point is this: whenever we find a missing box of ballots, we do everything we can to secure them and make sure the right thing happens (either they're counted, checked, verified, whatever). The protesters in this instance wanted that to happen. Obviously you don't know who to trust in such a situation so when the police come with rubber bullets and tear gas you start to question what the hell is going on.
Sadly we have DUers already acting like it's some sort of terrible thing when people report this sort of thing and try to do the right thing.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Gee, I'm supposed to map these events onto a US model, ya sure
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Stop changing the subject! You count the votes!
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)this operation, knowing Chavez would be dying soon. They've had all the time necessary to focus and arrange the elements, regardless of which candidate would represent the people against the oligarchs.
This should be interesting to study. No matter how hard they try, the right-wing is NOT going to permanently gain control of the Anericas. Resistance to them grows yearly everywhere as the general public becomes more aware and that is inevitable now.
El Mundo really got those important photos, didn't it? Bless their hearts. The photos just say everything, everything which is confused, that is.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)WTF are you talking about?
None of this would be happening without a million chavistas voting for Capriles as Capriles showed last time he'd concede when the vote was unambiguous.
Bacchus4.0
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Catherina
(35,568 posts)Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)And they all are supporters of the Chavista government