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Related: About this forumCapriles supporters rally in Caracas
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22060730Supporters of Mr Capriles say the march is an opportunity for the people to say the country needs a new leader to tackle its economic problems.
Venezuelans will go to the polls on 14 April choose a successor to the late president, Hugo Chavez.
Mr Chavez died of cancer last month after 14 years in office.
Acting President Nicolas Maduro will be addressing his supporters later on Sunday in Apure state, near the Colombian border.
Opinion polls suggest Mr Maduro has a lead of at least 10 percentage points over Mr Capriles.
Nicolas Maduro in Amazonas state, 6 April 13 Nicolas Maduro was appointed by Hugo Chavez as his preferred successor
During a rally in Amazonas state on Saturday, Mr Maduro put a curse on those not voting for him next Sunday.
He likened his main rival candidate, Henrique Capriles, to Spanish conquerors fighting indigenous people in the 16th Century.
"If anyone among the people votes against Nicolas Maduro, he is voting against himself, and the curse of Maracapana is falling on him," he said.
Video for reference, just in case anyone doesn't believe it:
He was referring to a 16th Century battle when Spanish colonial forces inflicted a decisive defeat on indigenous fighters.
Politicians close to Mr Capriles reacted to Mr Maduro's comments.
"What we want is peace and well-being, it is a positive Venezuela. And that is what we have achieved here today," said member of parliament Julio Borges.
"We saw the hateful comments of the government candidate. We reject that. And, as we say in Venezuela, when you wish bad things on people, it ends up happening to you," added Mr Borges.
Here are some pictures from the Venezuelan news site Noticias24.com:
And some video footage:
It's nice to see a rally filled with people wearing all kinds of colors instead of just one. But obviously, EVERYBODY there must be part of the oligarchs and "burguesía" that Maduro says will destroy the country. I mean, seriously, LOOK at those people! With their peaceful rally and their lack of direct threats against the opposing candidate! Unlike how the Chavistas did last year in their rallies...
MADem
(135,425 posts)I couldn't believe it when he made those comments and didn't get much pushback for them. It's certainly a different standard.
Capriles is unlikely to win, but the fact that his support grows stronger does suggest that VZ is ready for a change.
There is way too much waste and corruption happening at the highest reaches of government. Shortages are common. And violence is a real concern--VZ has one of the highest murder rates in the world.
http://infosurhoy.com/cocoon/saii/xhtml/en_GB/newsbriefs/saii/newsbriefs/2013/03/26/newsbrief-04
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)I can totally understand the existence of constructive criticism toward Chávez, Maduro, PSUV, the Bolivarian Revolution. Constructive criticism is good, doesn't bother me at all. I can understand that a person may be liberal/progressive/leftist and still oppose some specific aspects of chavismo.
What I can't understand is the existence of Democrats cheering for a member of the International Republican Institute, the international branch of the Republican party, a man who was praised, supported, and funded by George W. Bush himself.
Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)ocpagu
(1,954 posts)Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)so that you can understand this video immediately:
It shows Capriles peacefully negotiating with the ambassador of Cuba at that time, without any threats whatsoever, showing that Sanchez Otero allowed Capriles to enter the complex. In fact, Capriles was actually offering Sanchez Otero security, and wanted to ensure him that no harm would come to him or anybody inside the embassy.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)Mi abuelo era hablante nativo. Aprendí desde mi infancia.
No sé lo que tiene que ver su video con lo que dije sobre los vinculos entre Capriles y el International Republican Institute. ¿Podrías explicarme?
Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)All this time I thought you didn't know it. Now I know I don't have to worry about translating Spanish articles Certainly shows you're a more credible commenter than Judy or idw-whats-her-name.
As for the articles you posted, they almost seem to accuse Capriles of backing the assault in the Cuban Embassy. The video I posted shows that he was linked to it by offering security to the staff and the ambassador. I certainly don't see anything he did which makes him a terrorist, which apparently all the sites and sources you post up wrongly accuse him for, which automatically makes their credibility questionable. Just wondering, do you honestly think he would've been released from jail if there was any evidence showing that he participated in the coup, even when Danilo Anderson was assassinated? Surely SOMETHING would've popped out by now after 11 years which the Chavista government could've used to implicate him in the Cuban Embassy plot.
And so far, all the sites that accuse Primero Justicia of being backed by such US entities all seem to produce just text and big accusations, and fail to produce any actually useful links to, say, documentation that proves Primero Justicia was backed by US entities.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)I don't believe one really has to be fluent in a foreign language or has to visit a certain place to have an informed opinion on the subject. One just has to take a look at the crazy Cuban-American community in Miami to know that this idea is absurd.
As for your video:
1 - From 0:09 to 0:23 the narrator says: "The whole country was still convulsed because of the images showing the violence in the streets, caused by the political outcome of the past days that led to the resignation of President Chávez" (P.N. - Chávez never resigned, what makes me question the credibility of the video).
2 - The narrator says that Capriles was called by the Cuban ambassador to mediate - the same narrator, of course, that just lied a few seconds before in the same video about Chávez resigning. At no point in the whole video the Cuban ambassador says he invited Capriles. From 0:50 on, the video shows Capriles apparently explaining something to the ambassador, like he's answering a question or a remark that was not included in the video. Capriles says: "I want to insist, ambassador, that I totally agree that the diplomatic sites and embassies have to be protected and at no point I've ordered cutting electricity. I would never do a... to anyone". Someone questions him immediately "who did it?" (who ordered cutting electricity?) and insists in the question. Capriles says "I don't know, I don't know"... he doesn't know? He was the mayor. Also, I'm not an expert in body language signs, but anyone can notice he seems to be lying. He lowers his head and lowers his eyes, and turns his sight away from his interlocutor...
The context to Capriles' statement is not provided by the video, but this is probably the comment made by the ambassador that Capriles is answering:
"If you have any knowledge of international law, you must know that both Venezuelan and Cuba grant the right of every citizen's request of political asylum to be evaluated in any diplomatic representation. A democrat, a humanist, can not admit letting children without water, electricity, and food."
http://operamundi.uol.com.br/conteudo/opiniao/27872/50+verdades+sobre+henrique+capriles+candidato+opositor+a+presidencia+da+venezuela.shtml
I'll write more about the links between Capriles and the Republicans later.
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joshcryer
(62,270 posts)And he is quoted as saying it was illegal but he needed Capriles to calm the situation.
Capriles was then subsequently charged for not forcibly removing the protesters.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I'm posting the jpg of the relevant pages too since some of our resident supporters of the conservative Henrique Capriles love to misinterpret her very clear account.
From 2000 to 2008, Capriles served as Mayor of the wealthy eastern Caracas neighborhood of Baruta. During the shortlived 2002 coup against President Chavez, anti-communist protestors gathered outside the Cuban embassy (located in Baruta), cutting both water and electricity and threatening to storm the building. In response to requests by embassy staff for police protection, Capriles joined the protestors and forced his way into the embassy by climbing over its perimeter walls.
As Eva Golinger notes in her book, The Chavez Code, Capriles violated diplomatic law by forcing entry into the embassy, where he attempted to persuade Cuban Ambassador German Sanchez Otero to turn in Vice President Diosdado Cabello and other Chavez government officials whom the opposition believed were taking refuge in the embassy.
Though Ambassador Sanchez Otero permitted Capriles Radonski on the premises to engage in dialogue, explains Golinger, he made it clear that the actions were violating diplomatic law. Capriles attempted to force a search of the inside of the embassy by threatening the ambassador that the situation would only worsen if a full search were not allowed. When the ambassador stood firm, Capriles Radonski left the embassy.
The right-wing mayor allowed protests to continue as they were, abandoning the Cuban diplomats and their request for help. Fortunately, for embassy staff and Venezuelan democracy, massive pro-Chavez demonstrations reversed the short-lived coup before things got worse.
http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/8515
http://books.google.com.vn/books?id=k51AwjhxmekC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA43&hl=en#v=twopage&q&f=false
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)thats like asking for Prensa Latina's opinion. Eva es asquerosa. guacala!!!!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)What's disgusting is your revisionism and the fact that you get away with supporting rightwing politics on this forum simply because they're taking place in another country.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)homophobes, bigots, anti-free speech, liars, corrupt,socially conservative. Thats what your "left-wing" government is. Give me a progressive like Capriles anyday over a "left wing" conservative government like North Korea, CUba, or Venezuela. Someone who talks to people and not birds.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Capriles, a progressive? IN WHAT ALTERNATE UNIVERSE?
Since when did Bush and cronies like Jesse Helms ever spawn, sponsor and unleash a "progressive"?
You insult even your own intellectual capabilities by pretending that here.
Let me give you a clue. There's a reason Fox News Latino is the main US media outlet pissing in their pants from excitement as they pump Capriles. The neocon cheerleaders are in the front row seat cheering like fucking loons drunk off those oil fumes. Just because it says "Latino" in front of it, doesn't make it any less the normal Fox News propaganda you're pushing here.
If that's the company you want to keep, so be it but don't even dare pretend Capriles is any sort of a "progressive"
Here's his little party of privatization, wealth and privilege that seeks to undo all the gains the people made under Chavez. You don't even need to go further than wiki to see how it's classified. Nice try but utter fail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_First
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/05/world/americas/venezuela-capriles-profile
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)I can't understand what you say about Fox News Latino so I'll just take your word for it as a viewer with some skepticism as chavistas aren't really known for truth telling.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)... "Capriles, the 39-year-old governor of Miranda state who describes himself as a center-left progressive"
Of course he describes himself as "center-left", he's the candidate, he's saying anything to get the votes from the Venezuelan left.
Don't know why what the Republicans' puppy has to say about himself is more accurate than others are saying about him...
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)I guess, by following Capriles' lead on this issue, he's a right winger now?
Catherina
(35,568 posts)it's still a turd. Of course, witnessing your other deliberate attempts to mislead people,, nay outright LIE, I can't say I'm surprised.
It's no surprise either than you refuse to connect the dot between Fox News and Fox News Latino. The adjective must be throwing you off.
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joshcryer
(62,270 posts)She said he was invited down. The poster you're replying to agrees. But that some how gets twisted into "force entry."
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)I knew there was something fishy.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Anytime
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)"The right-wing mayor allowed protests to continue as they were"
Are you suggesting that he should have not allowed protests?
reorg
(3,317 posts)that a mayor should allow protesters in his constituency to besiege an embassy, smash the cars of diplomats and cut the water supply and electricity to force those inside the embassy to come out?
Or should he himself illegally enter the beleagered embassy and deliver the message of the criminals?
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)But I responded to a specific sentence that accused capriles of "allowing protesting".
reorg
(3,317 posts)a sentence that was even more specific than you apparently grasped, namely a sentence that accused Capriles that he:
"allowed protests to continue as they were"
If you nitpick, take care to do it right, thanks.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Advocated only if you are supporting a "leftist."
Otherwise it's fascist / oppressive / totalitarian.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)That's what the International Republican Institute says in their official website:
"IRI has been working in Venezuela since 1994 to promote civic and political participation in the democratic process. Programs include leadership development for marginalized groups such as women and youth, so that these sectors of society can play a greater role in shaping Venezuelas future. IRI also works to promote transparency and responsiveness in governance, especially at the local level.
IRI seeks to enhance healthy competition in Venezuelan politics and help all sectors of Venezuelan society build trust in their political leaders by promoting mechanisms for accountability between parties and their constituents. IRI offers nonpartisan capacity building assistance, technical training and organizational assistance to political parties, with a particular focus in critical areas of reform that extend beyond the context of elections and campaigns.
IRI also works with party leaders and local partners to host topical forums, providing a space for participants across the political spectrum to publicly discuss and debate key issues and improve outreach to constituents.
(...)
In 2009, IRI began implementing good governance programming at the municipal level in Venezuela by helping new municipal administrations face the daily challenges of public administration. Under this program, IRI has brought local organizations together with municipal governments to design public policies and strategies focused on quality of life of citizens and communities while encouraging citizen participation in the decision-making process.
Through its good governance programs, the Institute increases accountability within the community and enhances responsiveness of local government to community needs."
http://www.iri.org/countries-and-programs/latin-america-and-caribbean/venezuela
The Republicans Institute also published an article of the New York Times in their website:
"The United States Agency for International Development has distributed about $25 million to various Venezuelan organizations over the last five years, according to officials involved in the projects. The funds have been channeled to the Venezuelan groups through private and public entities from the United States that have opened offices in Caracas.
These include Development Alternatives Inc., a Bethesda, Md., company that works closely with the State Department in dispersing funds around the world, and the International Republican Institute and the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, two Washington groups that have carried out training for emerging political leaders in Venezuela.
Documents obtained from the United States government under the Freedom of Information Act point to numerous grants made by the United States in the past two years to groups whose activities are viewed as critical of Mr. Chávez's government. The international development agency withheld the names of many of the grant recipients, saying that the disclosure of their identities could put them at risk of political retaliation.
(...)
Officials from the agency for international development did not withhold all of the identities of its grant recipients in Venezuela, as if to point out that some of the aid went to groups receiving charity in the form of baseball equipment and roofing materials. One $15,728 grant for a nutrition program went to the municipal government of Baruta, an area of Caracas whose mayor, Henrique Capriles Radonski, is an outspoken critic of Mr. Chávez."
http://www.iri.org/news-events-press-center/news/new-york-times-cites-iri-programs-venezuela
Another source:
"In 2001, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) gave the International Republican Institute (IRI) a $ 340,000 for its work in Venezuela training "national and/or local branches of existing and/or newly created political parties on such topics as party structure, management and organization, internal and external party communications and coalition building"
(...)
The NED, which had maintained a minimal presence in Venezuela during the previous years, all of a sudden began investing heavily in political party strengthening and civil society "political" education and orientation. IRI, known officially as the international branch of the Republican Party, became a major player in Venezuela.
(...)
At the time of the increase in financing for its Venezuelan programs, Georges Fauriol, a former colleague of Otto Reich and a staunch anti-Chávez Bush advisor, was in charge of IRI's Latin American program.
(...)
In early 2001, IRI began intensive training programs for all opposition parties in Venezuela. The sessions were not limited to Primero Justicia leaders and members, but included other opposition parties, such as the traditional AD and COPEI, and MAS, Proyecto Venezuela, and lesser-known parties.
http://books.google.com.br/books?id=k51AwjhxmekC&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=%22Primero+Justicia%22+%22International+Republican+Institute%22&source=bl&ots=zDcAmfUpFk&sig=b0zljefSJq2QCZOIvVZh1l7ZLrA&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ei=cyFiUdCiE-qD0QGWz4EI&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=%22Primero%20Justicia%22%20%22International%20Republican%20Institute%22&f=false
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)If Capriles was getting anything nefarious at this point then the chavistas would be yelling from the rooftops about it (especially since they have spies within the opposition as the recently released files showed). His entire campaign is grassroots. Believe conspiracies if you will but you haven't proven anything here but pasted a wall of text filled with innuendos.
I figure most right wingers do not see Capriles winning and therefore wouldn't waste their money on him. Regardless, I would see them wanting him to win if only to see the chavistas lose. Simple. The enemy of my enemy if my friend. Same reason I voted for Obama knowing he was a lesser evil. Same reason far left groups in Venezuela would prefer Capriles to Maduro (see Panfleto Negro).
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)... if Capriles was not a right-winger.
And don't play the "conspiracy" card, it's documented, admitted, published. Don't believe a law will make a difference, the law has never stopped Republicans and right-wingers from doing anything.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Are you really that naive?
They have documented spies within the Capriles camp.
If all your innuendos had any relevance why aren't they being cheered from the rooftops in Venezuela by chavistas?
Assuming it's true... it makes no sense for them to keep such knowledge secret about Capriles.
Note: I am making this argument because all of your "proof" is from over a decade ago with tenuous connections at best. This is the kind of crap people try to pull to slander Lula and others. Go back far enough you'll be able to find shitty connections. Hell, Chavez was linking Capriles to extreme right wing groups because he was forced to go to a camp when he was a child.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Capriles has leveled lots of criticism toward the homophobic bigot Maduro, you just don't care to listen. Just because the right wing praises a candidate does not mean said candidate is right wing, it is a divide and conquer tactic more than anything, and it works wonders. You are slandering millions of Venezuelans and slandering other DUers while you're at it (don't forget you've repeatedly called me a right winger without really rebutting my issues with chavismo).
Ad homs and hateful attitudes are par for the course here and illustrate the character of those behaving that way.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)But I was skeptical about the information first hand and tried to get some possibly unbiased information on the topic. I saw that Maduro apologized and said he "really didn't have to get into private lives of people". A regrettable remark, ok, I admit, and I'm glad he publicly apologized because he can't express such a bad image, and Chávez himself had never said such a thing. In fact he had (and chavismo still has) support from organizations devoted to the LGBT issue.
This is not enough to make me think that Capriles would be a better or more progressive president. And, call them "ad homs and hateful attitudes" if you want, but I'm pointing to facts here. He's running with a right-wing party (to which he moved after being member of another right-wing party and also he's a former member of the far right organization "Tradition, Family and Property" , which had the Republicans' help to do everything. And funny how media never says anything about the fact that his family owns the daily with the largest circulation in Venezuela as well as a conglomerate of media, with a TV channel, radio chains, industries, real-estate, the largest theaters chain of the country, etc (being defeated by a former bus driver... boy that must hurt. It certainly hurts in our elites in Brazil, with a former metal worker as president).
He's a right winger and his party was born in a Republican maternity. I'm not "slandering" you or anyone for saying this. It's reality. And I really don't recall "repeatedly calling" you a right winger. I said your opinion about Honduras resembled theirs and I've said it again about Paraguay because, again, your opinion resembled theirs.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Capriles wants to raise, for instance, the minimum wage 40% so to as prevent the devaluation from affecting wage earners (it would obviously affect the boligarchs though!). That's a damn good policy proposal, that's something I can support about Capriles. Maduro? Nope, hasn't mentioned it, hasn't even acknowledged that the devaluation will hurt the pockets of everyday Venezuelans.
And, again, you know that his "membership" in Tradition, Family and Property was when he was a child and had no ability to "be a member or not." Certainly he does not identify with them nor does it appear that he ever identified with him once he matured.
The claim that Capriles owns the largest daily in Venezuela is false, he's not related to the same Capriles' who own that paper.
Capriles has shown himself to be a good manager and someone who supports the future of Venezuela, not all the right wing conspiracies you claim which are largely unsupported nonsense.
ocpagu
(1,954 posts)You're dismissing every kind of criticism toward him, but you're the one accusing others of doing it with Chávez.
And while you do it you simply don't take history and context in consideration in your analyzes, but it's hard to think that this happens because you're not able to connect the dots.
The Republican party says in their official website that they are helping opposition parties in Venezuela since 1994. They say, in their website, that they gave money to Capriles and funded anti-Chávez activities. And it is known that Capriles current AND former parties RIGHT-WING parties were both helped by the REPUBLICANS in the CONSOLIDATION of the their structure, management and organization, internal and external party communications and coalition building.
So... you can recognize that his party is a right wing association that was backed by Republicans, but even so you think he is a leftist... or you can keep on ignoring the elephant in the room.
There is always a third possibility, of course... (damn "conspiracy theorists"... everybody knows the site of the Republicans has been permanently hacked by crazy chavistas...).
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Capriles wants to keep the fuel subsidies, which is bullshit, and wrong, and irrational since 85% of Venezuelans don't even own a car or drive. But it polls well because his wealthier constituents in Caracas love the fuel subsidies (indeed, of the 40% who voted for him, probably 14% had cars, I'd bet!).
You dismiss the fact that if this was the case that Capriles was getting funded by right wingers that the chavastas would be all over it. If you look at his campaign it is largely volunteer based. There isn't massive state-paid campaign events. It's just him showing up in a town, setting up a platform, very lax security (indeed recently there was almost a tragedy where people got trampled because the overall security and organization was lacking).
The enemy of my enemy is a perfectly valid view here.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)I see some Capriles supporter was playing loose with more facts and trying to pretend his family doesn't own the daily with the largest circulation in Venezuela... So let's nip that in the bud. Henrique Capriles' family owns the media empire in Venezuela, it's how his fathers side made their money and became one of the wealthiest families in Venezuela for gawd's sake.
https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10CARACAS185_a.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Altimas_Noticias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadena_Capriles
La familia de Capriles ha estado muy ligada al mundo empresarial, siendo dueños de la Cadena Capriles, industrias de entretenimiento como: Cinex y servicios de inmobiliarias.
Capriles' family has been very linked to the business world, owning the Cadena Capriles, entertainment ventures like Cinex, and real estate services.
http://elimpulso.com/articulo/henrique-capriles-radonski-momentos-de-su-vida#
Henrique Capriles Garcia is third generation cousin of the late Miguel Angel Capriles Arcaya, leader and owner of the Cadena Capriles (media: Latest News, World Leader, Urbe, Urbe Bikini, Sunday, Multicolor among other companies),
http://www.talcualdigital.com/movil/visor.aspx?id=60123
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)3 mentions of Capriles, 20 mentions of Maduro.
Yeah, they're biased for Capriles alright.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)looks like the curse was on Hugo's house and not the progressive candidate Capriles.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Bacchus4.0
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ocpagu
(1,954 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)to try to get its way violently, from the very first.
What a digusting, pointless, group of people: they would never be missed if the ground opened up and swallowed them all.
Great photo!
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)And you are advocating the "ground opening up" and "swallowing them all." Even though they were defending themselves from a violent chavista mob which burned and stole and otherwise razed campaign equipment. Opposition supporters died last year because of violent thuggish actions of chavistas.
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)How odd. How would a person advocate for the earth swallowing people?
As you know, if someone DID "advocate" that, the earth still wouldn't listen, no doubt! The earth has a mind of its own.
How amazingly odd! Nice try.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)That's so much better.
Disgusting. And dishonest to the core.
You don't even address the fact that they were defending themselves from a violent chavista mob which is documented on video, in pictures, and from eyewitness accounts.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)just look at their leaders. Maduro lies everytime he opens his mouth. Even some of the dishonest and clueless chavistas here on DU deny that he said what he just said.
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)You don't know how to use commas. It's probably not a good idea for you to start this battle.
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)Here's a quick google grab to act as illustration:
The ironies of the Venezuelan opposition, part 12
April 1, 2013 Sabina Becker
Burnt-out car on Francisco de Miranda Avenue, Caracas, 2004, after a peaceful protest of the opposition, otherwise known as a Guarimba. These supposedly spontaneous local protests were directed by Washington via US diplomatic installations, and were aimed at destabilizing Venezuela so that then President Hugo Chávez would be forced to resign. None of them ever worked.
Ah, that peaceful Venezuelan opposition; gotta love em. They set cars on fire all the time, and we up here in El Gran Norte are supposed to take all this in stride as just youthful hijinks and legitimate protest against an elected government which has supposedly gotten all repressive and out of hand. Anybody buying it?
If you are, still, youre a feckin eejit. Especially after this:This Monday, a destabilization plan will take place during a march called by the ultra-right-wing campaign, which will begin at 7:30 pm on Francisco de Miranda Avenue and will end in Chacao.
It was denounced by the host of VTVs La Hojilla, Mario Silva, via his official Twitter account, @LaHojillaenTV.
@LaHojillaenTV: We denounce a destabilization plan by the opposition in tomorrows march, wrote the host.
Silva also informed that the opposition rally will be a Guarimba.
@LaHojillaenTV: TOMORROWS OPPOSITION MARCH IS A GUARIMBA.
The state channels president, William Castillo, wrote on his official Twitter account:
@planwac: This Monday, Capriles called for a march AT NIGHT, leaving from Los Ruices for the VTV offices Beware!
Translation mine.
Now. What kind of peaceful law-abiding opposition calls for demos AT NIGHT?
More:
http://www.sabinabecker.com/2013/04/the-ironies-of-the-venezuelan-opposition-part-12.html
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)I only have to go back a few weeks to find chavista violence against the opposition:
They're not the same group of people.
Capriles has had night marches and rallies before, this was two days ago:
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Chavistas attacked Capriles supporters at an airport.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/violence-breaks-out-venezuela-campaign-event
I covered this back when it happened, your concern for violent political activity was largely missing: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11085421
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)This has been posted already but there is important back story behind the violent actions of the fascist Chavistas that the post misses. In particular it lacks the imagery of the violent actors and their thuggish behavior.
It is well known that the Chavistas have a strategy to provoke violence at campaign events.
Note: "provocar situaciones de agitacion politica"
Basically: "Provoke situations that agitate politically."
This is not the first time this has happened as they did it in La Vega a few months ago.
Below is video of the attacks in Puerto Cabello, clearly showing Chavistas throwing rocks at Capriles supporters and attacking them with mob violence:
They then went on to torch a campaign truck:
Then they looted another campaign truck that had sound equipment with large speakers and stuff (no doubt to sabotage Capriles' chance to speak to the people of Puerto Cabello):
They then attack an AFP reporter and stole his camera to get rid of the evidence (of course in the information age with high cell phone penetration this is a joke):
Of course, does this stop the great Capriles? Maybe it should have. I know if I was campaigning and I was violently attacked by violent forces I would fear for the organizers who were supporting me and would at the minimum tell my supporters to come again another day. Particularly when the National Guard was doing nothing about the situation.
But no. It doesn't stop Capriles. Not this time. Not like La Vega. Capriles dons a small boat and arrives at the port in the best way you can arrive at a port:
Thousands fill the streets:
Capriles, a great man, gives his speech despite the Chavista violence:
I repost my previous post here because the above poster is using what is known as selective imagery to prove some specious point without giving the full story. Basically a lie of omission, which is still a lie.