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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 05:56 PM Mar 2013

Anatomy of a Coup

Anatomy of a Coup



Published on Mar 6, 2013
The astonishing story of how an American sponsored coup d'état almost led to the collapse of democracy in Venezuela. Featuring exclusive interviews with the key ringleaders and extraordinary archive footage - Chavez in jail arguing with his captors, secret meetings with the plotters and soldiers storming the presidential palace as plotters escape. As a fly on the wall documentary, you've never seen anything like it.



Definitely a must watch. It exposes ever more lies by the Chavez haters.
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Judi Lynn

(160,609 posts)
1. You are handing the democrats at D.U. a real gift with this.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:08 PM
Mar 2013

I'm saving this link immediately.

So looking forward to watching it when it's quiet around my house so I can give it uninterrupted attention.

Very, VERY appropriate timing.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
2. I've been a Chavez supporter for over a decade now
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:22 PM
Mar 2013

and followed events in Venezuela very closely but there were things in this documentary I had no idea of.

The plotters recorded their announcement that Chavez had to resign for breaking his promise never to use military troops against his own people way in advance! Before the marches had ever started. Before they placed their snipers at both ends of the avenue to gun down innocent people, most of whom died from a neat shot to the head.

Let me know what you think after you've watched it. It's as good, if not better, than "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised". I've already watched it twice this morning.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. The Third Force snipers - just like Libya and Syria in March 2011. The same spark
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:54 PM
Mar 2013

that set off all three carefully constructed and primed political bombs. Coups tend to follow the same scripted format and sequence of events. The same crooked editing and manipulation of images broadcast by one-sided global corporate media. The same scripted rhetoric and phony democratic symbolism.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
4. Yeah, it's the same scripts over and over again
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:03 PM
Mar 2013

Send the CIA, military trainers, mercenaries in and package it to look like a populist uprising.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
7. The difference in Libya was...
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:15 PM
Mar 2013

..that the US Military, hiding behind the "NATO" designation,
used their considerable air power to bomb the "other" side into submission.

Killing-Them-ALL only works if one is willing to Kill Them ALL,
and has the military capability to do so.


” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html


Who "WON" in Libya?
The IMF, The Global Banks, and the Global Resource Extraction Corporations.
After removing Gaddafi, all of North Africa is now open to them.


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. Exactly! On Libya I mean. It was a war and invasion under cover of NATO which
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 11:46 PM
Mar 2013

had no business interfering there at all since Libya is not a member of NATO and Libya did not attack any NATO member country. Totally lawless, the Western powers have become.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
11. Asia Times is a great resource in our desert of information and analysis!
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:34 AM
Mar 2013

Thanks for finding this and posting it here! Brilliant analysis of Libya, so right on!

(Asia Times = atimes.com)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
6. "The Chavez Haters".
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:07 PM
Mar 2013

My, but they ARE a persistent group.

Chavez used profits from Venezuelan natural resources to:

*Heal the Sick

*Shelter the Homeless

*Feed the Hungry

*Educate the Ignorant

*Clothe the Naked

*Empower the Disenfranchised


...Yes.
I can see how why some HATE him with a PASSION.
He was a ruthless dictator, you know.



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
9. Right Wingers always hate any leader who takes care of the poor, who provides
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 11:49 PM
Mar 2013

them with HC and Education and treats them as equals to the wealthy. I don't know why that is, some kind of psychological disorder I guess. And then they struggle so hard to try to hide their bigotry and hatred for indigenous people, the poor, the disabled and the elderly.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
12. Wow! Never saw that footage of the coupsters' pre-recorded accusation
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 10:16 AM
Mar 2013

of chavistas shooting people. M-m-m, bastards with crystal balls, eh?

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I don't think that this documentary is nearly as good as "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised," but it is well worth watching, for that footage, for the interview of the parents of the 18 year old who was shot by the coupsters' snipers in their protest march--gawd, the bastards!--for the interview of the VP Diosdado Cabello who escaped the coupsters, the footage of the interior minister who managed to make the announcement that Chavez had not resigned, and for other items like the interview with that smiley-faced murderer Carmona!

"The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" gives a much better understanding of the massive pro-Chavez crowds--hundreds of thousands of people--who surrounded Miraflores Palace and demanded return of their elected president. They were pivotal in prompting the Carmona coupsters to leave the premises. This doc gives too much credit to Gen. Baduel, I think. His smooth talk about "The Art of War" is just a bit too-too. I suspect that he was "sniffing the wind." The people were in full revolt against the coup (as "Revolution" plainly shows) and, short of a terrible massacre, there is no way that the coupsters could have kept control of the country.

Somehow this doc manages to convey that the opposition was in the majority. This most certainly isn't true, neither in the protests around the coup nor in subsequent elections, which Chavez won hands down in every case (in an election system that Jimmy Carter recently called "the best in the world&quot . Although this doc makes a few snipes at Chavez in its very first sentences--for instance, saying that he "mismanaged" the economy, as if to imply that he caused the coup, when the coupsters themselves had been actively trying to crash the economy with a "general strike"--I think that the doc's off-kilter overall impression that the rightwing was the majority was more an editing problem, than an intention. They didn't have sufficient footage of the Miraflores crowd, for instance, and just threw in whatever footage they had?

Also, although both docs stop soon after the coup (don't say what happened next), "Revolution" was much more accurate as to its upbeat tone. In fact, Chavez dealt with the military coupsters--fired the key high echelon officers and forgave the lower rung officers (who had been lied to that Chavez had resigned), the opposition-controlled police who incited a riot and killed people were prosecuted, and, though, the coupsters, of course, continued their efforts to overthrow the government, in collusion with the Bush Junta, Chavez defeated them time and again, because his support among Venezuelans was GENUINE. This doc does not convey that buoyancy of the Chavez government--brilliance, really, considering what they faced, what they triumphed over and what they achieved for the Venezuelan people--and it doesn't convey the fervor of most Venezuelans for CONSTITUTIONAL government, so apparent during the coup, and for social justice, which they would soon demonstrate in election after election in favor of the Chavez government.

"Revolution" captures the spirit of what happens next better than this doc does.

I just looked up the wikipedia account of the coup because I couldn't remember some of the sequence of events just before the coup, and I have to share this hilarious comment by Condoleeza Rice, after the coup failed. Bush Jr.'s comment is also precious:

Upon news of Chávez's return, Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush, said: "We do hope that Chávez recognizes that the whole world is watching and that he takes advantage of this opportunity to right his own ship, which has been moving, frankly, in the wrong direction for quite a long time."[105] Bush denied any involvement of the U.S. government in the coup attempt and asked Chávez to "learn a lesson" from it.[106] Asked whether the administration now recognizes Mr. Chávez as Venezuela's legitimate president, one administration official replied, "He was democratically elected," then added, "Legitimacy is something that is conferred not just by a majority of the voters, however."[107]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d'état_attempt

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The Titanic, at the bottom of the North Atlantic, still signaling its "unsinkability" and lecturing others on safe sea travel?

Ga-a-a-a-wd.

Just about to slaughter a million innocent people in Iraq, to steal their oil for Chevron & co. Torture of thousands in progress. Bankruptcy of the United States and worldwide depression in progress. End of U.S. democracy well under way. And Venezuela "has been moving, frankly, in the wrong direction for quite a long time"!? Venezuela?!





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