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Related: About this forumTad Devine Defends Kerry Iraq WAR vote! Meet the Press 08/22/04
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MEET THE PRESS Sunday, August 22, 2004
GUESTS: Sen. George Allen, R-VA, Chairman, National Republican Senatorial Committee;
Sen. Jon Corzine, D-NJ; Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee;
Tad Devine, Senior Adviser, Kerry-Edwards '04;
Ken Mehlman, Campaign Manager, Bush-Cheney '04
...
MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Devine, isn't part of the problem this: "Knowing then what he knows today about the lack of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq,"--John--"Kerry still would have voted to authorize the war and `in all probability' would have launched a military attack to oust Hussein by now if he were president, Kerry national security adviser Jamie Rubin said in an interview."
Is there any difference in position?
MR. DEVINE: Tim, John Kerry does not regret his vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq. What he deeply regrets is what the president did with that authority. The president rushed to war without a plan to win the peace. And today American troops and American taxpayers are baring the burden almost alone because of the president's mistakes.
MR. RUSSERT: But Jamie Rubin said in all probability John Kerry would have launched a military attack.
MR. DEVINE: Tim, again, the authorization was the right vote, it was the right choice. In fact, in 1998, John Kerry supported regime change in Iraq. And the fact of the matter is that this president said he would go to the United Nations, exhaust every remedy, build a broad international coalition. He failed to do so and the result of that president's failures is what's going on today in Iraq. It is a huge problem being paid for by American taxpayers and American troops.
MR. RUSSERT: But why launch an attack if there were no weapons of mass destruction?
MR. DEVINE: Well, Tim, listen, it's a--you know, hypothetical is always impossible to deal with. I mean, the fact--this is the reality. We can deal with the reality. Saddam Hussein needed to be held accountable. There was a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it. Every step along the wayonce the president got that authority, he chose the wrong course. And today, as a result of that choice, of the president and the vice president, the decisions they made, American taxpayers are footing a bill of $200 billion in Iraq. John Kerry has said there is a way to win the war on terror, to be tough and smart to do it, and that we shouldn't be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them down here in America.
MR. RUSSERT: But if he voted to authorize the war and his foreign policy advisers said he would have launched an attack on Saddam, what's the difference between John Kerry's position and George Bush's?
MR. DEVINE: Well, listen, the president--the difference is the president made mistake after mistake in this country and our troops are paying for it today. John Kerry would never have pursued the course of action that the president of the United States has pursued. John Kerry would have built a true international coalition to shoulder the burden with America. He would have put it together the right way. Unfortunately, the president has cost this nation with his costly mistakes and we're paying the price every day.
MR. RUSSERT: Who would have been in the coalition that was not?
MR. DEVINE: Tim, I think a number of countries, potentially, could have been in that coalition. But that's unknowable.
MR. RUSSERT: France and Germany?
MR. DEVINE: What we know, Tim--all we can know is this, that John Kerry would have kept his word and not broken it. The president promised to build a true, broad international coalition and he failed to do so. And the result of that failure is the cost being paid by America today.
MEET THE PRESS Sunday, August 22, 2004
GUESTS: Sen. George Allen, R-VA, Chairman, National Republican Senatorial Committee;
Sen. Jon Corzine, D-NJ; Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee;
Tad Devine, Senior Adviser, Kerry-Edwards '04;
Ken Mehlman, Campaign Manager, Bush-Cheney '04
...
MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Devine, isn't part of the problem this: "Knowing then what he knows today about the lack of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq,"--John--"Kerry still would have voted to authorize the war and `in all probability' would have launched a military attack to oust Hussein by now if he were president, Kerry national security adviser Jamie Rubin said in an interview."
Is there any difference in position?
MR. DEVINE: Tim, John Kerry does not regret his vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq. What he deeply regrets is what the president did with that authority. The president rushed to war without a plan to win the peace. And today American troops and American taxpayers are baring the burden almost alone because of the president's mistakes.
MR. RUSSERT: But Jamie Rubin said in all probability John Kerry would have launched a military attack.
MR. DEVINE: Tim, again, the authorization was the right vote, it was the right choice. In fact, in 1998, John Kerry supported regime change in Iraq. And the fact of the matter is that this president said he would go to the United Nations, exhaust every remedy, build a broad international coalition. He failed to do so and the result of that president's failures is what's going on today in Iraq. It is a huge problem being paid for by American taxpayers and American troops.
MR. RUSSERT: But why launch an attack if there were no weapons of mass destruction?
MR. DEVINE: Well, Tim, listen, it's a--you know, hypothetical is always impossible to deal with. I mean, the fact--this is the reality. We can deal with the reality. Saddam Hussein needed to be held accountable. There was a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it. Every step along the wayonce the president got that authority, he chose the wrong course. And today, as a result of that choice, of the president and the vice president, the decisions they made, American taxpayers are footing a bill of $200 billion in Iraq. John Kerry has said there is a way to win the war on terror, to be tough and smart to do it, and that we shouldn't be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them down here in America.
MR. RUSSERT: But if he voted to authorize the war and his foreign policy advisers said he would have launched an attack on Saddam, what's the difference between John Kerry's position and George Bush's?
MR. DEVINE: Well, listen, the president--the difference is the president made mistake after mistake in this country and our troops are paying for it today. John Kerry would never have pursued the course of action that the president of the United States has pursued. John Kerry would have built a true international coalition to shoulder the burden with America. He would have put it together the right way. Unfortunately, the president has cost this nation with his costly mistakes and we're paying the price every day.
MR. RUSSERT: Who would have been in the coalition that was not?
MR. DEVINE: Tim, I think a number of countries, potentially, could have been in that coalition. But that's unknowable.
MR. RUSSERT: France and Germany?
MR. DEVINE: What we know, Tim--all we can know is this, that John Kerry would have kept his word and not broken it. The president promised to build a true, broad international coalition and he failed to do so. And the result of that failure is the cost being paid by America today.
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Tad Devine Defends Kerry Iraq WAR vote! Meet the Press 08/22/04 (Original Post)
Her Sister
Apr 2016
OP
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)1. Feel the ? !
:large
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)15. Great article.......Feel the Fraud lol
Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)2. Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive.
That all Bernie's campaign is deception.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)3. What a great find!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)4. I know, right!??
I tried to edit but looks worse. Will fix in a bit!
Word of the day is HYPOCRISY!!!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)5. We already knew that...but it is glorious to see it in print!
There is bound to be video too.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)7. Tried to find the video
Haven't yet! maybe someone can find?
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)8. I looked a little...but am about to have dinner.
Will give it another go later on!
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)6. Oops!
This berns.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)9. See? It used to be Bush's war.
"But if you pay me, I'll say anything."
And the gullible will believe it!
creon
(1,183 posts)10. I am not surprised that he said that.
The very model of self service is our good friend, Mr Devine.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)11. ***NEWSFLASH***: TAD DEVINE DOES HIS JOB!!!
Good grief!
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)12. Yeah, we just caught him doing his job! lol!
READY FOR HRC!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)17. His job seems to be helping his clients lose.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)18. Don't you have a BS group to go to.....
where you can gather around and sing Kumbaya with Tad.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)13. Sierra Blanca~ Howard Dean ~Tad Devine for Kerry
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/15/1485659/--What-About-Sierra-Blanca-Bernie-Poor-Latino-Community-Needed-You-Where-Was-Their-Revolution
What About Sierra Blanca, Bernie? Poor Latino Community Needed You. Where Was Their Revolution?
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)14. Tad Devine, John Kerry's strategist attacked Howard Dean on Sierra Blanca
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/15/1485659/--What-About-Sierra-Blanca-Bernie-Poor-Latino-Community-Needed-You-Where-Was-Their-Revolution
What About Sierra Blanca, Bernie? Poor Latino Community Needed You. Where Was Their Revolution?
What About Sierra Blanca, Bernie? Poor Latino Community Needed You. Where Was Their Revolution?
When Tad Devine was working as a strategist for then Presidential candidate John Kerry, they actually attacked Howard Dean on Sierra Blanca. Wow!
lubbockonline.com/...
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. John Kerry on Wednesday criticized the environmental records of fellow Democrat Howard Dean and President Bush, accusing the former governors of striking a deal in the 1990s to ship nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic town near El Paso.
Kerry said Dean, when he was Vermont governor, signed a compact in 1993 with Maine and Texas to send nu clear waste to Sierra Blanca, a plan opposed by civil rights groups.
"He clearly reflected an insensitivity to that community," Kerry said during a campaign stop at a housing project.
Kerry, of Massachusetts, criticized the decision to "dump nuclear waste into a poor community far away from where you live because you can do it. I think George Bush was wrong and I think Howard Dean was wrong."
lubbockonline.com/...
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. John Kerry on Wednesday criticized the environmental records of fellow Democrat Howard Dean and President Bush, accusing the former governors of striking a deal in the 1990s to ship nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic town near El Paso.
Kerry said Dean, when he was Vermont governor, signed a compact in 1993 with Maine and Texas to send nu clear waste to Sierra Blanca, a plan opposed by civil rights groups.
"He clearly reflected an insensitivity to that community," Kerry said during a campaign stop at a housing project.
Kerry, of Massachusetts, criticized the decision to "dump nuclear waste into a poor community far away from where you live because you can do it. I think George Bush was wrong and I think Howard Dean was wrong."
Cha
(297,304 posts)16. Tad Devine the BS Hypocrite.. got it.
Thank you, Her Sister~