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http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-superdelegates-221828Clinton camp: Sanders wants to rig system with superdelegates
By Nick Gass
04/12/16 09:24 AM
When it comes to Donald Trump's recent comments about a rigged primary system hurting both him and Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton's campaign is having none of it. In fact, Clinton's press secretary Brian Fallon on Tuesday remarked that it is Sanders who is trying to rig the system by attempting to court superdelegates currently allied with Clinton.
Really, I think when you talk about rigging the system, thats what Sen. Sanders is trying to do now," Fallon said in an interview with CNN's "New Day." "Hillary Clinton has won in the popular vote by a wide margin. Shes got more than 2 million votes over Sen. Sanders in all of the contests when you add them all up."
Reiterating that Clinton has won more states and pledged delegates, a point the candidate has stressed herself in recent days, Fallon commented, "So now thats forcing Sen. Sanders to go out and talk about the idea that he wants to try to flip superdelegates and get him to overturn the will of the people as expressed through whos won the most contests. MORE..
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TeaParty redux.
Umm except the great party of the people, the Dem Party built in a firewall to keep the likes of the TP from doing to it what they did to the Republicans.
Bernie..the Sara Palin of 2016.
Nice try Kochs & their Libertarian & John Bircher following.
Bern will not break the great Dem Party no matter how much noise he makes. Its over for him. He's proven his true mission in this campaign.
He can back up & start with releasing his taxes & answering the FEC questions.
#BuhbyeTPbern
#Kochsarewastingtheirmoney
Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)He and his followers.
K&R
IamMab
(1,359 posts)Tommy2Tone
(1,307 posts)Haven't had a PBR in a while.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)... it's this issue that has me the most disappointed in him. After all the talk about fairness and rigging, the idea that he and his people are actually talking publicly about using the SDs to overturn the results of the voting is insane.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and it reeks of hypocrisy. I'll just leave it at that and avoid becoming redundant.
Cha
(297,317 posts)of campaigning on the side of Democracy.
BS needs to stop being so desperate.. he built this
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Sounds like sore losers. Also sounds like RWer's talking points.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Maybe he can take a free elephant ride back home with the tea party LOL
stopbush
(24,396 posts)I hope that the DNC has learned an important lesson from the Sanders disaster: DINOs should not be allowed to enter the D primaries for president under any circumstances.
Sanders never had a realistic chance of winning, and he certainly is going to lose. But in the meanwhile, he is starting to do serious damage to Hillary's candidacy, and by extension, the down-ticket races as well.
Sanders problem isn't necessarily his socialist agenda or his self-centeredness. His real problem is that he doesn't give two whits about the Democratic Party. Never has and never will. He uses the Party for his own means, and that's the extent of it. He does the absolute minimum required to help raise $ for Ds while depending on the DNC to back his Independent runs to the nines.
I propose the DNC adopt the following rule - call it "The Sanders Rule":
Any person wishing to run as a Democratic candidate in the presidential primaries must be a member in good standing of the Democratic Party for a period of at least 5 years of unbroken Party membership leading up to the day that they announce their intention to seek the Democratic nomination for president.
I think that would fix the Sanders problem, decisively.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)I'm betting after this year they'll be shoring up their firewalls.
Thanks bern, your stunt may have netted you with personal wealth beyond your dreams, but you also just made the DEM Party stronger than ever for all walks of the Amrrican public. Now #GTFObern
stopbush
(24,396 posts)No response yet.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Yours has been seen.
Thank you
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Democrats for Democrats!
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)it makes stealing the election that much easier for Republicans.
Nader on the ballot provided the perfect screen behind which to switch votes.
I don't agree with you at all.
The strongest candidate is winning and will win. Campaigning now against Sanders helps toughen up Clinton for the main event later on.
It doesn't makes sense to give Clinton an uncontested primary. That it ended up being Sanders rather than O'Malley is a shame from my standpoint. But what is done, is done.
BTW, Sanders is now doing what Clinton did herself last time around. Using the only possible hail mary strategy to the nomination.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Do you really think Sanders would have made the November ballot had he run as an Indy? I doubt he would have raised any more money than the typical Indy. Without the exposure of the D debates, etc, he'd be a footnote. This isn't like Donald Trump or Ross Perot financing their own campaigns. Sanders would not have been around to steal votes from either candidate.
Had he not run, O'Malley would have stayed in a little longer and picked up more funding. At least MOM is a D and not a DINO.
At least the Never Trump movement is pushing Rs to vote for Hillary. Hopefully those numbers will more than offset any Sanders voters who won't ever vote for Hillary.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)sending him their money, rightwing groups would have stepped in too.
Remember, Nader's "grassroots" campaign was funded by the Right. Republicans helped him get enough names to end up on the ballot.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)I agree there are a lot of leftists who would send him money. They have figured out how to manufacture the outrage that causes leftists to part with it.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)Has revealed that it will do any dirty thing to win. Exposed
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Credit to Artist: Loudon Wainwright III
Album: Album III
Am not posting the video version since it shows roadkill.
Cha
(297,317 posts)Response to misterhighwasted (Original post)
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misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Why?
To weaken the Dem Party, Hillary, Pres Obama, DWS, DNC, Policies, strength of the all inclusive Party for ALL minorities & Americans, Women, LGBT, etc..he never ever gives credit to the Dem Party for fighting constantly against the GOP that he refuses to help unseat in the Senate & House.
He has done his best to discredit the Party & its people, that gave him rise to his sudden claim to fame.
There is absolutely nothing at this point that will make me see Sanders as anything more than what he has revealed himself to be.
#GTFObernie.
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misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)..the Dem Party the same way the TeaParty destroyed the Republican Party. There were always problem Repubs, but there were also reasonable one who understood the benefit to compromise and did so without threat to being unseated by a selected TP in their next election.
The Dem Party doesn't need breaking apart. The TeaParty RW does.
Bernie Sanders has spent more hours demeaning Hillary, Pres Obama & all things Dem than he has the RW that controls the House & Senate.
He has laid all the ills of the Iraq war entirely on Hillarys shoulders yet said scant about the RW & GW Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc who are the originators of the entire ME fiasco we are STILL living with.
Why is that?
It is a sacrilege for Sanders to put that D after his name , as he admitted, just to gain access to media & all that the Dem Party offered.
I do not need to hear validation as to his bullying delegates, stealing HRC's Voter Data, cheering his wins while whining & threatening to sue when he loses a State.
He is doing to the great Dem Party exactly what the Tea Party did to the Republican Party.
And, once again, how did that turn out?
How has the TeaParty been any benefit to all people under the American big tent.
That is Sanders & he brings nothing to the Dem Party that would benefit in uniting, so the R's can be defeated.
Sorry but bullying Super D's, spending $16 mill on paid hacks for censoring of online pro Dem speech, and throwing accusations of corruption & fraud when a State doesn't vote him a winner, arrogantly dismissing Hillary's strong southern AA voter base, & his surrogates disgusting & demeaning bullying of Hispanic & AA Hillary supporters should be screaming loud & clear that Sanders only mission is to destroy the party of the people. And he'll do whatever it takes to do it.
Now why, again, would I believe that Sanders claim that SD's, the Dem firewall, should be messed with.
Why? Bet he wouldn't be raging on the SD issue if they were a majority in his own favor, rather than Hillary's.
There is no loyalty in Bernie Sanders.
And thats the problem.
The Dem Party has always been based in its loyalty.
Its solidarity.
Bernie should have put 10% of his effort in breaking the Dem Party, into breaking the strength of the RW Wall St 1% owned TeaParty.
But he hasn't.
I look forward to NY, PA Maryland & Conneticut & beyond.
And it is refreshing to finally see Him being questioned for his evasivness.
And I haven't yet mentioned his NRA association, FEC & hiding his Taxes.
His excuses fall on deaf ears anymore.
#GTFObernie
Thanks for asking, anyway.
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DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)shadowandblossom
(718 posts)I'll come back and read through it better tomorrow.
George II
(67,782 posts)....Bernie Sanders from Donald Trump?
They basically have the same complaints, can't find anything good about everything, and the whole world is against them.