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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:59 AM Apr 2016

Reports Indicate Bernie Sanders Is a Millionaire With Three Homes..... update

http://bluenationreview.com/reports-indicate-bernie-sanders-is-a-millionaire-with-three-homes/


It is highly unlikely there’s anything newsworthy or untoward in Bernie’s unreleased tax returns — which is what makes his evasiveness baffling. Perhaps it’s something much simpler: Bernie and Jane Sanders are millionaires. At least that’s what Money magazine seems to think. So what happens to Bernie’s campaign if he is a millionaire?

If voters had a dime for every time Bernie Sanders railed against millionaires and billionaires, they’d be millionaires.

So perhaps it’s time for Bernie and his campaign to put the Wall Street hit against Hillary to rest. After all, Bernie — arguably a millionaire himself — believes it’s a personal attack:



The Reports Indicates ......so they say...
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Reports Indicate Bernie Sanders Is a Millionaire With Three Homes..... update (Original Post) Iamaartist Apr 2016 OP
Releasing tax returns won't tell anyone about net worth. rgbecker Apr 2016 #1
Releasing his tax returns will show how much he paid in real estate taxes.... George II Apr 2016 #13
State tax cant hide it .... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #16
On Schedule A one enters requested deductions, which include state tax paid the previous.... George II Apr 2016 #20
Um... that's all public records. Anybody can access them on the internets. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #17
Yes, it's public record in CT too. But one has to know a little bit about what that property... George II Apr 2016 #22
O great, Schedule A will tell you about RE Taxes.... rgbecker Apr 2016 #37
I want to know why he gets such insanely high deductions KittyWampus Apr 2016 #2
^^This. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #12
I suspect 2naSalit Apr 2016 #3
Most of us don't care so much whether he has money or not Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #5
Exactly! pandr32 Apr 2016 #23
This hits the nail right on BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #26
That's right. Mr. Purity is more like, "Do as I say, not as I do." He will say it is no one's livetohike Apr 2016 #27
"His tax preparer"? jmowreader Apr 2016 #38
That's just it. LisaM Apr 2016 #29
Exactly! DesertRat Apr 2016 #39
The article..... said ( IF ) he is a millionaire? Iamaartist Apr 2016 #4
I still think it may have something to do with Jane. LisaM Apr 2016 #6
Also could be that..not sure.... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #7
It would be simple to release the tax returns, a serious candidate for president would do this. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #8
Very well said my beliefs also..... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #10
A bit curious apcalc Apr 2016 #9
What happens to Sanders campaign if his tax returns show he's a millionaire? He loses credibility as BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #11
Very well said thank-you for that''''' Iamaartist Apr 2016 #14
You're welcome, artist. :-) eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #15
Exactly. There goes his whole platform misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #31
And his "brand". BOOM. BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #41
I really doubt that's true. KitSileya Apr 2016 #18
That could be to.....? Iamaartist Apr 2016 #19
I believe you are correct except that it's likely that his net worth is over a million... Walk away Apr 2016 #24
I smell a skunk...lol Iamaartist Apr 2016 #33
According to a prior post here (sorry, don't have a link) they OWN a condo in DC. spooky3 Apr 2016 #30
Poor Bernie! He has lost the nomination, he's an Oligarch and he is married to a woman who.... Walk away Apr 2016 #21
Haaha Well damn that sucks! misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #32
OMG Poor Bernie!! LOL Iamaartist Apr 2016 #34
Tea Party Iamaartist Apr 2016 #36
I believe he is a millionaire and the hints are in his victory speech from 4/5. Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #25
.Of course he is a millonaire how can they not see that ?? Iamaartist Apr 2016 #28
The only thing wrong with Sanders being a millionaire is the hypocrisy. stopbush Apr 2016 #35
As a member of Congress, Sanders has made well over $100,000 per year livetohike Apr 2016 #40

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
1. Releasing tax returns won't tell anyone about net worth.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

You have got to go to the Bahamas to find that out.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Releasing his tax returns will show how much he paid in real estate taxes....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

...and on how many properties.

We could, if interested (I'm not) even extrapolate those property taxes to determine the assessed value of those properties and exactly what his "net worth" is.

I still don't understand how a person who has earned close to $5M since he's been in Congress (with nice benefits) and a professional woman who earned over $100K or more a year for a number of years can have a net worth of only $800K.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
16. State tax cant hide it ....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

I know in our state you have to put on your state tax returns , the state equivalent of your homestead value it gets recorded ......cant hide it.... but he is how ?????

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. On Schedule A one enters requested deductions, which include state tax paid the previous....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

...year and property taxes. This is the Federal Schedule A.

If he releases his full return, including Schedule A, that will include the property taxes that he paid. Unless of course they don't include those this year (i.e., tax the tax hit for the sake of the campaign), but previous years' returns prior to becoming a national candidate, will show them.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Yes, it's public record in CT too. But one has to know a little bit about what that property...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

...might be - town, address, etc. Otherwise it's virtually impossible to find.

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
37. O great, Schedule A will tell you about RE Taxes....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

Next try to find how much his investments are worth or his retirement plan from his 1040. You guys are unbelievable.

And I guess we all know that different towns/states/counties have different RE tax rates. Or do we?

Mr. Accountant?

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
12. ^^This.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

His deductions reduced his taxable income by 25%! That's an abnormal amount for a member of Congress, and very suspicious without the Schedule A showing the details.

I am an accountant and I know that he has not released his "full" return.

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
3. I suspect
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:14 AM
Apr 2016

that whether they are millionaires or not, as long as they are not using their money to oppress the rest of us, like so many are, is of little concern. It's not that they have that money as long as it came in ethical fashion and put to use in an ethical fashion.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
5. Most of us don't care so much whether he has money or not
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

It's his hypocrisy of calling out everyone else who does whether they made it ethically or not.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
27. That's right. Mr. Purity is more like, "Do as I say, not as I do." He will say it is no one's
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

business and his tax preparer is helping cover their story of such a simple life in the backwoods of Vermont. B.S.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
38. "His tax preparer"?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

You know that, like millions of other Americans, Bernie and Jane Sanders do their own taxes. I do mine too, and I don't see anything wrong with them doing that.

But here's the thing: He's using the classic "my dogs ate my homework" excuse to avoid pulling out his returns. Since he and his wife are the "dogs" here, that ultimately won't fly - and it shouldn't be flying now.

Back in the 1960s there was some hippie guru who told all his young followers, "never trust anyone over 30." He was 32 when he said it. Are we seeing this sentiment redux in Bernie's "never trust the rich" thing? If he turns out to BE one of the rich - and as simply as he is claimed to live, he should have a nice little estate set aside - we are.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
29. That's just it.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

He seems to want to re-work everyone else's expectations while he is on track for a very comfortable retirement. I have worked really hard since I was 20 and it's my biggest concern.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
6. I still think it may have something to do with Jane.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016

Either their taxes are a mess, or maybe she got a golden parachute when she ( as the media has reported) "quietly resigned" from the college where she'd been President.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. It would be simple to release the tax returns, a serious candidate for president would do this.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

It may just have a lot to do with his net worth rising from $350,000 when he first started talking about running for president to $800,000 in a year in which he earns $175,000 per year, there has to be more than the prior to him releasing the two different amounts or incorrect information has been given, lying by omission.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
10. Very well said my beliefs also.....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

He is hiding it for a reason ,doesn't what the public to know the truth about him.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
11. What happens to Sanders campaign if his tax returns show he's a millionaire? He loses credibility as
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:41 AM
Apr 2016

a working class political rebel and he becomes the very millionaire he's been railing against. Sanders needs a heckuva lot more vetting and it's long past due for that. He should get the same vetting Hillary Clinton's been subject to, but to date, he's only been skimmed over.

Then again, if the press vetted him as they'd vetted Hillary Clinton, there'd be nothing left of him. Good thing for the Democratic Party, Democrats (elected and not elected), and the country, but bad for viewer ratings, the GOP, and other miscellaneous Republicans. Can't have that in the United States, can we?

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
18. I really doubt that's true.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

It just doesn't sound likely. If he has a home in Vermont, maybe a cabin as well, and then rent a place in D.C., that would make three homes, but not really. That he is a millionaire? It might be likely that he saved up enough to technically call himself a millionaire, but again, I doubt it. There's something else they don't want us to see, and I don't think it's something hugely nefarious, but rather something embarrassing, like some Wall Street investments, or a deductible they don't want us to see.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
24. I believe you are correct except that it's likely that his net worth is over a million...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

That's not unusual for an upper middle class couple near retirement age in the North East.

I am guessing it's something about what he has done (fraudulent deductions?) or hasn't done (no charitable contributions?) that makes him want to bury his tax past.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
30. According to a prior post here (sorry, don't have a link) they OWN a condo in DC.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

They aren't renting there. That would have been a savvy move, if he bought long ago, given that he planned to be in DC a long time.

What it would mean now, is that the condo is likely worth AT LEAST a half million (if it is near Capitol Hill), and real estate taxes would likely be around 1% of the current value, per year. That would account for a chunk of his itemized deductions. And if he has a small mortgage still, there would be some mortgage interest. Both of these would be reported on Schedule A.

Or, if they are now leasing it to a tenant, they would deduct expenses on Schedule E, against rental income, rather than take the deduction on Schedule A (personal deductions).

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
21. Poor Bernie! He has lost the nomination, he's an Oligarch and he is married to a woman who....
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

can't keep his paper work straight! His life sucks more every day!

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
32. Haaha Well damn that sucks!
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

Explains why they sent Jane out to the Newz to (ahem) clean up the Tax coverup.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
36. Tea Party
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:37 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe he'll have to pay back the tea party,that wanted him to win the election so badly so the GOP can control the White House he better sell those homes for $$$ lol




Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
25. I believe he is a millionaire and the hints are in his victory speech from 4/5.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:48 AM
Apr 2016

I noted on Twitter that during his victory speech last Tuesday, he talked ONLY of a "billionaire's club", rather than a "millionaire's club". I believe this is because the tax issue began to gain traction beforehand. Given the 140 character limit on Twitter, I don't think anyone caught my drift.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
35. The only thing wrong with Sanders being a millionaire is the hypocrisy.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

Honestly, I don't know why he's concerned about that bit of hypocrisy when he's already being an overt hypocrite on his promise not to run a negative campaign.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
40. As a member of Congress, Sanders has made well over $100,000 per year
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

since he was a Freshman. Not sure what his wife's salary was in each of those years, but if they aren't millionaires they must be poor at investing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaries_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress

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