Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumI feel like Bernie Sanders is a mean and angry guy-that fair?
Maybe it's just the tough-as-nails New Yorker attitude but it seems to me like BS is a mean and angry individual. President Obama and Secretary Clinton are not mean at all. Tough? Sure? But also kind, compassionate and caring. Really it just came to me that he kind of has the Donald Trump persona. Am I just having my HRC blinders on here guys?
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Sanctimonious comes to mind first.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)The 'excuse me, I'm talking' debate line just came into my head from that old debate as an example of his potential meanness.
Even the 'American people don't care about your damn E-mails' debate line even though good for us is kind of mean if you think about it. But yeah sanctimonious probably best fits that line.
Perhaps unfliltered, raw and gruff would fit better.
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)as a Democrat. He retreated to his cloister in Vermont where he existed quite comfortably and proceeded to become a bi fish in a small pond except for the fact that Vermonters would not choose him for governor over a real Democrat and a woman.
I think he resents Democratic Solidarity because he can't control or wield it. The Democratic Party has a consensus formed over decades of outreach, sustained over many election cycles.
Bernie seeks to ride the coattails of discontent. His anger is born of frustration, but he needs to look in the mirror if he wants to find the cause of his frustration.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)I love Howard! Glad that someone in the chattering classes sees things the way that I do and makes me feel good that my insights aren't way off base haha!
trumad
(41,692 posts)Constantly won Media Whores Online whore of the week award.
metroins
(2,550 posts)Since we're in the H group I'll post my real opinion.
BS is a fraud.
He is fleecing his supporters for cash when he has no chance of winning. He makes promises that will never be kept and has almost no details. He then gives money to those close to him and tries to act holier than thou while bilking millions in a false campaign. He's had time to talk real policy and he has none.
If this were February, I wouldn't be saying this. But Hillary is winning in popular vote and delegates. The race has been over for a month, yet he keeps shilling for his own gain.
It absolutely disgusts me.
If it were close, I'd be OK with it, but it's not.
He has no answer on how to get things past a potential GOP house and senate GOP filibuster!
No kidding yeah! No way would I post this in GDP If we want to talk about mean, the people there are exhibit A!
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)He's just like Trump. Empty promises, and seeking out fame by doing and saying outlandish things.
pandr32
(11,588 posts)To hear him tell it, he has been there in the front of the trenches for every good thing that has happened. His votes have been magic, except for the ones that weren't so magical, but then none of them were his fault.
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Your post really has me thinking about just what it is that feels so unfinished and incomplete about Bernie. I'm not sure if he is intentionally mean, although there are plenty of reports from people who have worked with him that say just that.
What I observe is an angry person who perpetually sees the glass as half full. For all of his railing against the system, there is so little hope in his message. Where Obama was inspirational, Bernie is consistently bleak. The feeling he creates is of a Presidency in which we will all have to soldier on through grim events, always reaching for impossible dreams. I shudder to think how depressing and angry his State of the Union addresses would be. He has become so enamored of his Quixoitic image of himself that actually attaining any goals would feel anticlimactic to him.
You never hear him talk about positive achievements he or others have accomplished and rarely does he seem genuinely pleased or inspired by success. He does seem very proud of the "momentum" and attention he and his campaign are getting but that isn't the same thing. We need to have a President who sees the good in others and in us and makes us believe things are possible. Someone like Obama.
Bernie is very good at pointing out what is wrong and I think there is a place for that. Just not the Presidency.
Just some thoughts.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Quayblue
(1,045 posts)Cha
(297,314 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)pandr32
(11,588 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... he gets some concrete plans
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)It makes me feel depressed...
He gives little credit to Obana's nearly 8 years, and that's the biggest downer of them all!
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jehop61
(1,735 posts)keep telling us that we have two excellent candidates who would be great presidents. Sadly, I have to disagree. I used to listen to Bernie on Thom Hartman regularly and thought he was a good voice for what was wrong in our economy. But he was always very angry, as well. Good to listen to, but not really a force for change. Since he began his presidential run, however, I have become less and less impressed with him and see him as just an angry old fart, much like the other angry old farts I live among here in Florida. Always pissed about "whatever", but never doing anything about it. I plain don't want him as our candidate. He would lose horribly and usher in a terrible era for us when the crazy GOP takes over.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He could become a critic of any moves made but he would nit have to produce any fixes.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... his demeanor gives me absolutely NO CONFIDENCE in his ability to handle the responsibilities and duties of being the President of the United States.
Fla Dem
(23,690 posts)I'll vote for him if he's the nominee(not gonna happen) but with his personality and unwillingness to work with others that don't agree with him, he'll ruin the Democratic party and accomplish absolutely nothing.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)As if he doesn't use those muscles ever.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Say no to everything. If things work out, well, you still win, because things worked out for the best and everyone's happy. Things don't work out, well, I told you so. Shouda listened to me, blah blah.
We all run into people at work whose job it is to say no. They never offer a real solution, let alone a positive one. On the other hand, people who offer positive solutions have to put their cred on the line. They actually risk something. If things go south, blame them. It was their idea.
Sanders has made a career of saying no and staying out of the line of fire. He risks nothing.
Ultimately, he's a coward, and a cynical coward at that.