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William769

(55,147 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:07 AM Apr 2016

Who actually won Wyoming?

Sanders wins the vote by 55.7% to Hillary's 44.3%.

The pledged delegates are split 7-7.

Hillary has all 4 super delegates from Wyoming.

Now the delegate count for Wyoming is Hillary 11, Sanders still 7.

So once again I ask, who actually won Wyoming? Just some food for thought.

Happy Sunday morning to all.

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Who actually won Wyoming? (Original Post) William769 Apr 2016 OP
As for delegates, HRC won, even with a tie! Iliyah Apr 2016 #1
Yeah but I see the news saying BS won the last 8 States or something like that Her Sister Apr 2016 #2
Sanders and his camp start the silly meme...' riversedge Apr 2016 #5
yeah they're hoping that it will catch on! Her Sister Apr 2016 #14
Hillary does her best when she's under pressure... Walk away Apr 2016 #24
Hillary won! It's the MATH.. pesky delegates. Cha Apr 2016 #3
Mornin Bill--Great way to start Sunday morning. Thanks riversedge Apr 2016 #4
Well you know me, I'm always the glass is half full type of guy. William769 Apr 2016 #7
Hillary. nt sheshe2 Apr 2016 #6
Hillary certainly exceeded expectations in Wyoming vote book_worm Apr 2016 #8
I'm confused by all the celebrating I'm seeing DesertRat Apr 2016 #9
Popaganda at it's finest. William769 Apr 2016 #11
The Corporate Media MUST create a horse race. They are being totally dishonest, too, about BS's Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2016 #22
Well, he gave it the ol' electoral college try jmowreader Apr 2016 #27
further evidence that jimlup Apr 2016 #10
Right back atcha! William769 Apr 2016 #12
No, it's evidence that those are the rules and if BS had one more delegates you wouldn't be Cha Apr 2016 #13
Uh? shenmue Apr 2016 #20
Actually, it's caucus states that are very anti-democratic. Often only diehard activists and strong Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2016 #23
You basically answered the question.... George II Apr 2016 #15
Where did you get those numbers? William769 Apr 2016 #16
This site seems to be the most up to date: George II Apr 2016 #17
Does anyone know how many delegates are left to win??? Walk away Apr 2016 #25
This link has the running numbers down at the bottom: George II Apr 2016 #30
Thank you George... Walk away Apr 2016 #31
The great thing about this is that none of us stopbush Apr 2016 #18
Clinton won by exceeding expectations Gothmog Apr 2016 #19
Yay shenmue Apr 2016 #21
Yes. riversedge Apr 2016 #29
Even if you say BS won the contest, he needed so much more than he got liberal N proud Apr 2016 #26
Bernie gets ZERO Net Delegates in Wyoming! Plus HRC has +4 superdelegates in WY. riversedge Apr 2016 #28
But I heard on the News that Bernie Won! DesertRat Apr 2016 #33
A 7-7 tie in pledged delegates is a defeat for BS & a win for HRC Kaleva Apr 2016 #32
Right on! Kath1 Apr 2016 #34
Sanders needs not just a win but a blowout in every state from now on. okasha Apr 2016 #36
Esp since it was expected by the Bernie fans and camp that it would be blow -out for them riversedge Apr 2016 #35

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. As for delegates, HRC won, even with a tie!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016

Since pledged delegate count is what propels a candidate to the nomination, I'll say again, HRC was the big winner.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
2. Yeah but I see the news saying BS won the last 8 States or something like that
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

That's OK! That will perk up HRC voters everywhere!!

If BS thinks HRC is "nervous", that's OK too b/c she is great at SURPRISINGLY coming back!! And everytime is extra FANTASTIC!!!!



riversedge

(70,239 posts)
5. Sanders and his camp start the silly meme...'
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:19 AM
Apr 2016

'nervous'. silly silly. they really try to make themselves feel good.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
14. yeah they're hoping that it will catch on!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:46 AM
Apr 2016

But at this point everything coming out of their mouths is just projections!! Everything!

Cha

(297,275 posts)
3. Hillary won! It's the MATH.. pesky delegates.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary had to deal with this in 2008 and she learned valuable lessons.

to the Super Dels, too~

Mahalo William~

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
9. I'm confused by all the celebrating I'm seeing
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

by the Sanders' supporters. He nets ZERO delegates.

This isn't the electoral college.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
22. The Corporate Media MUST create a horse race. They are being totally dishonest, too, about BS's
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:40 PM
Apr 2016

chances. I think that's why Sandernistas are behaving this way. They are ignoring the math because the Corporate Media is implying that he has a chance. He doesn't.

Today in the NYTimes, there was a front page article about how the voters are not being heard in the Trump and Sanders's cases. On the Sanders's side, the argument is that most people don't understand why BS isn't gaining more delegates even though he has won all these states. It's like they really don't understand how "proportionality" works. But what's more frustrating for me is that the Times article didn't even make an attempt to explain why. The writer simply concluded that the "will of the people" is being ignored. Now, that may be the case when it comes to Trump...the Republican Establishment is really stealing his delegates from him. But when it comes to Sanders, this article makes it appear as though the situation is the same: That somehow the Democratic Establishment is not listening to the Sanders people. Really, Hillary and Obama's delegate totals were even CLOSER and I don't remember all the crying, whining and gnashing of teeth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/us/politics/primary-process-is-seen-as-in-conflict-with-democracy.html?ref=politics&_r=0

William769

(55,147 posts)
12. Right back atcha!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:36 AM
Apr 2016

We've seen how Sanders campaign has actually tried to change the popular vote.

Talk about anti-democratic!

Cha

(297,275 posts)
13. No, it's evidence that those are the rules and if BS had one more delegates you wouldn't be
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:39 AM
Apr 2016

saying they were "undemocratic".. so, don't be a hypocrite.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
23. Actually, it's caucus states that are very anti-democratic. Often only diehard activists and strong
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:14 PM
Apr 2016

ideologues participate in them. When people have to work, have children, etc. they don't appreciate.

Plus, he's winning when the population of a state isn't diverse. I'm sorry, but just white people won't win a Democratic Party primary. As Bernie and his fanatics will soon come to realize, NO Democrat can win a primary without the black and Hispanic vote...I don't care how "revolutionary" he/she is.

Besides, we already had a revolutionary campaign...and the candidate's name was Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He was truly revolutionary...bringing all ages, all races, both genders, even Independents and Republicans together. Sanders and his fanatics have alienated blacks, Hispanics, and women. That is the base of the Democratic Party.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. You basically answered the question....
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

...but here are where we are today:

Needed to win the nomination:

Clinton 599, Sanders 1256

William769

(55,147 posts)
16. Where did you get those numbers?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:53 AM
Apr 2016

By my count it's this.

Hillary 593, Sanders 1270.

Either way, point well taken.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. This site seems to be the most up to date:
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D-PU.phtml

It has the Wyoming delegate count, but it's now different than it was a day ago. These seem to change just about every day.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
25. Does anyone know how many delegates are left to win???
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:27 PM
Apr 2016

I can't seem to find it but I'll keep looking.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
18. The great thing about this is that none of us
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

saw this coming. I figured Sanders would easily net 6-8 delegates out of WY.

The fact that Hill actually won 11-7 is like a gift with a big ol' ribbon wrapped around it.

Let the Slanders fans say what they want. The math is deaf to their spin.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
28. Bernie gets ZERO Net Delegates in Wyoming! Plus HRC has +4 superdelegates in WY.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

Keeping that Sunday am happy feeling....




WayneEdH ?@WayneEdH 20h20 hours ago

Bernie gets ZERO Net Delegates in Wyoming!
Plus HRC has +4 superdelegates in WY.
#ImWithHer

okasha

(11,573 posts)
36. Sanders needs not just a win but a blowout in every state from now on.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:20 PM
Apr 2016

Anybody have the exact percentages?

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