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Related: About this forumBernie Sanders is trying to retroactively steal Missouri from Hillary Clinton as we speak
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-is-trying-to-retroactively-steal-missouri-from-hillary-clinton-as-we-speak/24406/f this headline feels familiar, its because today marked the second time in less than a month that supporters of Bernie Sanders have tried to retroactively steal a state that Hillary Clinton had already long-ago won with a majority of the popular vote. Last time it was Nevada, a cheating scandal which cost at least one local official her job but failed to flip the state in Bernies favor. This time Bernies supporters are trying to retroactively steal Missouri, and the saga is playing out as we speak.
The only current sources of information come from a Reddit post and a forums post on the part of the Sanders supporters who appear to be behind the Missouri hijacking attempt. While these posts are absolutely not legitimate sources in terms of how the delegate voting actually went today, they do make clear that Sanders supporters once again tried to steal a state.
Their claim this is once again that delegates for Hillary Clinton mysteriously failed to show up; last time they made this claim, it was because a local official who was apparently in the tank for Sanders sent out messages telling Clinton delegates they didnt need to show up, while Sanders supporters seemingly aware in advance that such an opportunity was going to be created organized to pack the hall so they could be named alternate delegates.
Is this happening again ??? I hope not...
riversedge
(70,311 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Cha
(297,733 posts)the White House.. No one with principles or honor does.. certainly not the Super Dels. So their cheating is in vain.. all it does is out them as cheaters.
Thank you, Iamaartist
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)He is becoming another Bush who stole the election from Gore.... he must part of that Tea Party..
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)Each state has a delegate selection plan that controls. Each candidate gets to vet their delegates and have approval rights over their delegates. I just looked at the Missouri Delegate Selection Plan that the Sanders people can not change the results of the primary.
BTW, I am helping vet delegates for my senate district for the Hillary for American campaign and I know that lady who is doing this for a neighboring district
Cha
(297,733 posts)Have an interesting time helping to vet the delegates.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)I remember in 2008 that the Obama campaign in Iowa didn't vet one of his delegates for the Democratic National Convention. The guy made a big stink later when he voted Republican in the general election.
LiberalFighter
(51,104 posts)They can't change the allocation of delegates except to correct the results. Which didn't happen.
Someone over at the Sanders group was of the mind that the outcome was reversed and posted it yesterday.
It seems that Sanders people want to change the rules so that it helps them.
The rules also only allow those that support Clinton to elect their delegates that go to the next step. Sanders people don't get to play.
April 7 Ward, Township, Legislative District, and County Mass Meetings take place across the state.
April 14 Filing deadline for candidates elected at the Ward, Township, Legislative District, and County Mass Meetings to run for district-level delegate at the Congressional District Conventions.
April 21 State Party provides list of district-level delegate and alternate candidates to the respective Presidential candidates.
April 25 Presidential candidates provide list of approved district-level delegate and alternate candidates to State Party.
April 28 District-level delegates are selected at the Congressional District Conventions.
May 7 State Party certifies elected district-level deleApril 7 Ward, Township, Legislative District, and County Mass Meetings take place across the state.
May 1 Pledged PLEO deadline for filing the statement of candidacy and pledge of support forms with State Party.
May 2 State Party provides list of PLEO candidates to the respective Presidential candidates.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Not a fan of this sneakiness!!! Action of LOSERS!
Thanks I am a artist!!
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:14 AM - Edit history (1)
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Down ticket candidates and Sanders has been a recipient of Hillary's fund raising. Some apparently believe she has bought the super delegates with this funding, wrong. Hillary has established a relationship with members of congress and the Democratic members are now super delegates. Sanders has been in Congress for twenty five years, he apparently has not established a relationships, put that on Sanders.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)And soon Obama will endorse Hillary .also .....
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)pandr32
(11,617 posts)Media personalities like Chris Matthews, and others, love to talk about the Sanders' pursuit of superdelegates after the fact, but seem to fail to mention that Sanders never "earned" any superdelegate support over his lengthy political career.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)good congressman.
pandr32
(11,617 posts)...that we can begin to be more serious and actually govern. We need to make sure that those elected to Congress in the future uphold a certain standard--that they will roll up their sleeves and get to work...together...not it's-my-way-or-the-highway like Sanders.
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)Under the Missouri Delegate Selection plan, the results of the primary are binding and can not be changes. See rule 6A of the Delegate Selection plan https://drive.google.com/a/chriskoster.com/file/d/0Bw8qd8A8ZSVLY0RGWFNtMlJkdXc/view?pref=2&pli=1 In addition each Candidate has approval rights over their delegates under rule 5 of the Delegation Selection Plan. In Texas, I have been asked to help vet the delegates to the national convention for my Senate district for the Clinton campaign. The campaign takes this vetting process seriously.
I am not sure what the Sanders people think that they are doing. The primary is binding and they can not change the results fo the primary under Missouri Democratic party rules.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)rules.
I've never seen such sore-loserism and a desire to cheat in order to win by any candidate on our side before Sanders. These attempts, to steal the election by any means possible is just beyond the pale and more characteristic of Teabaggers than Democrats.
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)If Sanders tries to steal delegates as described above, then the credentials committee in Philadelphia will not seat those delegates.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I believe the DNC had made a YUGE mistake allowing Sanders to run under the Democratic Party banner. I hope they've learned from this.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)It's like there's a fifth column inside the Democratic Party, trying to help destroy it in Sanders' name. SMH
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)and cheating are apparently OK for some SBS supporters.
I believe that the Hillary folks in MO have got this covered. But I believe that such actions are unprecedented in Dem primaries.
Perhaps there should be a rule that one cannot run for the office of President as a Dem unless one actually has BEEN a Dem for at least five years or some such to stop opportunists.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)That is a GREAT idea!
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)And that pretend Good Guy is dangerous for that reason.