Wisconsin Primary Night Thread ----- Come join in!!! Get your hug below...............

[KewlKat]

So we may not win the election tonight....no need to feel blue or sad.

FEEL THE MATH!!!!

Just stay in the group and support each other.

[KewlKat]

1. WI Exit Poll

55% say CLINTON will beat Trump in the GE

so, why won't those 55% vote for Hillary?

[CajunBlazer]

4. We have to have some faith that the people of Wisconsin aren't all stupid.

[shenmue]

2. Thank u

[fun n serious]

3. The demographics of WI

Do not like us.

[CajunBlazer]

5. Thanks, it's not going to be a bad night

[fleabiscuit]

25. Agreed! eom

[LiberalFighter]

54. If the allocation of delegates was done the way Republicans do it.

It might be a bad nite. But the Democratic Party does it the right way.

[Aristus]

6. Even if I'm not from Wisconsin?

[KewlKat]

12. We share common grounds and cross state lines

We are all a part of Hillary's family!

[Aristus]

13. Thank you...

[GusBob]

7. I just read a story

In the Milwaukee news sentinel because of the way Wisc proportions delegates by cong. district there is no way he can win big numbers

[KewlKat]

10. DING DING DING

You are correct!


Thanks for reminding us of the way the delegates are proportioned!

[LAS14]

19. I don't understand. What if he wins all the...

... congregtional districts, even if by small margins? Do you have a link to the Milwaukee story?

[LiberalFighter]

43. It is not just Wisconsin.

All of the states use proportional method. Unlike the Republicans.

Democratic method.
Each congressional district is proportional.
Statewide is proportional.

Unless Sanders gets over 85% of the votes in any of the districts he can't get all of the delegates. Same at state level.

[GusBob]

45. Ok I get that but it's the way the districts breakdown that is different

I wish I could link from my phone . It's in the Milwaukee journal sentinel

[LiberalFighter]

52. Would the other factor be that unlike the Republicans which assign 3 delegates to each district.

The Democrats allocate delegates based on Democratic turnout in those districts? District 2 has 11 delegates and 4 has 10. While the other districts have 5 to 7 each. District 2 includes Madison and 4 is the Milwaukee area.


The Democratic method gives more weight to districts and states that have higher turnout for the Democratic President. It is averaged over a 3 election cycle. So even though Texas has more residents than New York it has fewer delegates than New York.

[GusBob]

53. Yes that's it!!!!

I think.

It breaks down such that he can't win a lot of delegates

[LiberalFighter]

57. You can get a better idea by going to The Green Papers.

The Green Papers


I think all they have to do is just plug in the numbers and it will calculate the delegates. First by eliminating any candidate that doesn't meet the 15% threshold such as O'Malley and then using in this case just Clinton's and Sanders' votes. Roundup and round down is simple calculation.

[KewlKat]

8. some quick exit polls from the DEMS

55% believe Hillary can beat drumpf in November

59% think she's honest

77% think she has realistic goals

41% say she inspires them

54% what Obama's policies to continue

VOTERS:

72% Dem
25% Independent
2% Republican


64% White
09% Black
02% Hispanic

[riversedge]

9. love it and....

Feel free to pass around.

djred678
?@djred678

How incompetent is Bernie that he can't even #ReleaseTheReturns
#ImWithHer

[Treant]

11. I just did it.

Wrapped my arms around my monitor, that is.

Strangely, it was warm and comforting, if a bit angular. Sort of like hugging my very thin cousin.

[KewlKat]

14. I tried the laptop

but my female anatomy nearly caused me to disconnect...........lol.

[hill2016]

15. i think i'll hide out here tonight

[riversedge]

16. Sanders supporter publishes “hit list” of superdelegates, includes woman’s home address

Lite reading while waiting.

John Aravosis
?@aravosis

@BernieSanders supporter publishes “hit list” of superdelegates, includes woman’s home address http://americablog.com/2016/04/sanders-supporter-publishes-hit-list-super-delegates-including-home-addresses-women.html #p2

[KewlKat]

20. WTF is wrong with people...........

Would they want to be outed, forever, on the internet? Shame, shame, shame on the BSS that did this and BS should condemn this action immediately and as public as he can. This should not be tolerated by the candidates. It needs to be challenged.

[LiberalFighter]

44. Betcha the Bernie Sanders supporter is not active in the Democratic Party.

[LAS14]

17. I'm really glad I found this Hillary Group. nt

[KewlKat]

21. Me too......it feels good to talk up our candidate with others that also feel the same way.

Makes me feel less insane..........lol.

[Satch59]

18. MSNBC just had a report from U if WI:

He said low turnout there: tally was 1607?? 43k go there he said... Or was it 16k turnout? Anyone else see this?

[Treant]

22. No, but

If the turnout was that low, that's really, REALLY bad news for Bernie.

[KewlKat]

23. Hubby said they showed the location at U of WI

Nobody there. No lines. College supposedly issued some sort of IDs as well..........so I'll pay attention for more news.

[geek tragedy]

24. low turnout at U-Dub would be really bad news for the Berners

We'll see

[fleabiscuit]

28. Yes you heard correctly... 1607 eom

[KewlKat]

29. Really?

Can't believe they would all early vote.............this is very interesting.

[KewlKat]

26. Watching MSNBC

Last commercial break and then polls will be closing and we'll maybe hear some results.

[upaloopa]

27. I think Hillary will pull this one out tonight

Bernie is getting vetted now

[KewlKat]

30. Did I mention

I LoVE the way you think!!!

I'll take some of your confidence. Go Hillary!!!!

[Her Sister]

31. Nice place here!

Thanks KewlCat.
What an interesting week this is starting to be!
HRC Group Raring to go....

[KewlKat]

34. You betcha!!!!

kickin butts and takin names

[Raissa]

32. My need for Internet hugs

Proves that I would be a terrible politician.

I can barely handle the stress of being a supporter. Lol.

[shadowandblossom]

35. Here

Here's another one! Guess we'll see how tonight goes, in any case let's just keep fighting for what we believe in.

[KewlKat]

33. Here we GO

[KewlKat]

37. Cruz and BS are positioned on the left

which leads me to believe they will be the projected winners........what do you think? Has anyone been on the right side and won?

[KewlKat]

40. Sadly I appeared to be right

[riversedge]

48. OH, how lovely. Thank you so much.

[shadowandblossom]

38. I'm needing that.

I needed that.

I wish I had some wine or something. Well, here we go I guess.

[KewlKat]

39. Cruz wins

[riversedge]

41. Now I need that hug--even as it was expected. Bernie wins:-(

[shadowandblossom]

42. still would have been nice.

[riversedge]

46. WI- Big news of night if it pans out - @DecisionDeskHQ exit polls show Judge Joanne Kloppenburg 54%

Bradley was appointed by teabagger GovWalker. I am so glad to see this


Greg Neumann ?@gneumann_wkow 27m27 minutes ago

Big news of night if it pans out - @DecisionDeskHQ exit polls show Judge Joanne Kloppenburg 54% to 45% for @JudgeBradleyWI in SCOWIS race.

[KewlKat]

49. That is great news if true.....be gone Judge Bradley

[riversedge]

50. Sad to say he was wrong--JoAnn trails a lot.

[BlueMTexpat]

59. That's great news!

Whatever the Bernie-Hillary outcome!

Her biggest reporting areas haven't come in yet. Anything in single digits is literally a "win." Bernie needs a real blowout.

[KewlKat]

47. The bears pic saddens me as we know they are a dying breed due to climate change...........

they need as much help as we do to persevere.

[riversedge]

51. Hillary Clinton 90020 48 % Bernie Sanders 98236 52 %

this is from Milwaukee journal sentinel.. They have not projected a winner.



http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/election-results-april-2016-table-373223501.html

Democratic Presidential Primary
672 of 3838 precincts reporting (18 %)
Name Votes Vote %
Hillary Clinton 90020 48 %
Bernie Sanders 98236 52 %
Martin O'Malley 138 0 %
Republican Presidential Primary

[riversedge]

58. now mjs called it

for sanders.


Votes Vote %
Hillary Clinton 114868 47 %
Bernie Sanders 131913 53 %

[book_worm]

55. The good news is that after Wyoming we should have a series of HRC wins in closed primaries

with lots of delegates.

[LiberalFighter]

60. Wyoming only has 14 delegates to allocate...

not including the 4 automatic delegates.

[SaschaHM]

56. Well as of this post....

It's not a double digit victory on the sites that I'm looking at so that's good. The delegate math shouldn't change much and guess what the two biggest news stories tomorrow will be...

Ted Cruz and the #never Trump movement getting a win.
Donald Trump losing and the republicans being set on the path towards a contested convention.

The biggest Sanders story will be his NY Daily News cover about Sandy Hook and that's a win for Clinton!

[riversedge]

61. this WI map from Milwaukee paper has a map by counties...

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/Wisconsin-presidential-primary-results-374677081.html

[riversedge]

62. Hillary Clinton 148,347 46 % Bernie Sanders 170,975 53 % 1177 of 3838 precincts reporting (31 %)

MORE RESULTS: Presidential primary results by county

LIVE: Wisconsin votes in primary

COMPLETE COVERAGE: Wisconsin election day
Democratic Presidential Primary
1177 of 3838 precincts reporting (31 %)
Name Votes Vote %
Hillary Clinton 148,347 46 %
Bernie Sanders 170,975 53 %

[riversedge]

64. Party for @HillaryClinton supporters combined with party for @Barret4MKE, who endorsed her

Barret is Milwaukee's mayor.


Journal Sentinel Retweeted
Karen Herzog ?@HerzogJS 17m17 minutes ago Milwaukee, WI

Party for @HillaryClinton supporters combined with party for @Barret4MKE, who endorsed her #JSPolitics


Journal Sentinel Verified account
?@journalsentinel

.@Barrett4MKE defeats @donovanformayor, 69% to 31% #JSPolitics http://ow.ly/10kVEG

[Haveadream]

63. Hugs to all the Hillary Crew

HUGS TO THE WHOLE HILLARY CREW!!!

If we need any encouragement, its important to remember that we came through tonight a little disappointed but not much worse for wear. Sanders fell so far short of what he needed that he is in worse shape than ever going into the big contests where he is not favored to win. He needed ridiculously HUGE numbers and his showing tonight was an epic FAIL. At best it was a wobbly finish that puts him virtually no closer to what he needs in the delegate math. His campaign isn't just in trouble, it is dead in the water. For all of his splashing, he isn't getting anywhere and he and his advisors know it. Sadly, it will probably encourage his poor followers to give him more money. He needed a massive blowout and all he got was a weak, tepid, paltry, needed-waaayy-more-than-that, even-the indies-can't-save-you, last desperate gasp in a failing campaign contest.





OTOH, Hillary is in fantastic shape going forward into states that favor her! We will win and win big in states that have large numbers of Democrats, the states with diversity, the states that will carry us forward in the general election. Soon, we are going to be rejoicing and that much closer to saying, "Madam President!"

[Sparkly]

65. Very glad you're all here.

[Maru Kitteh]

66. Thanks! I'm not even a little bit down.

I'm keeping the eyes on the big prize.

[Surya Gayatri]

67. Checking in to say "Hey, y'all!"

[KewlKat]

68. WE all made it through last night, now on to NY and a Victory there!!!

Have a great day everyone. Stand strong and don't let the news or BSSers get you down.

F E E L T H E M A T H!!!!

She will prevail!

[KewlKat]

69. Per Morning Joe.........

BS only picked up 3 delegates...............3 delegates.............3 delegates.....

As BS would say, let me make this clear...........I picked up 3 delegates.......at the cost of 2.4 million........what a deal maker I will make............


Have a great day everyone.............., count them.....1, 2,,,,,,3 delegate gain...............

^..^

[Treant]

70. But that's only $800,000

per delegate, practically a steal!

And really, he did get a ten delegate lead out of WI, so it's actually only $240,000 per delegate.

Now being only 214 delegates short, the total cost will only be $51,360,000...if all goes well.

[KewlKat]

71. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

F E E L

T H E

M A T H


just sayin.....................

[Treant]

73. Yep!

He could dump a cool billion into New York and, post that interview with the Post, it's just not going to help that much.

At least in the cases of NY, PA, DE, and MD, and I suspect CT, our delegate cost for Sanders is effectively infinite.

[Cha]

72. "3 delegates"?!! Why so few with 13 more points? I'm really trying to understand

delegate math.

[Raissa]

74. It sounded

Like they added in the supers now that the state has voted. Otherwise it's a 10 delegate split.

[Cha]

75. Thank, Riassa~

[PeaceNikki]

76. Long day. Mostly as expected. We lost the key supreme court race

which sucks.

A big problem is that it takes 2-3 hours to vote in the inner city. GOTV in the districts she'd kill in is very very hard. People don't have time for it.

And it's been made much harder with the newly enacted Voter ID law. Democratic turnout in those areas is abysmal at best in anything outside of the GE.

I was up at 4am, worked 6 hours at my day job and then 10 at the polls. It was very very busy in my incredibly red community. The GOP shows up and did so in droves to smack down Trump. Sanders won by more then I would have expected. I find it hilarious that the accusations of fraud and shenanigans NEVER ever come up when Sanders wins. I'm in the infamous Waukesha County and have worked elections here for six years now. While I'm relieved to not be "blamed" for one not going the way people like, I find it hilarious that the screams and wails of maleficence are silent.

Meh, onward. Thanks for the much needed hug. Back at cha.

Oh, but on a very positive note, my good friend who's a former DUer won reelection handily in his Milwaukee County Supervisor race which makes me very happy.