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DavidDvorkin

(19,497 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:57 PM Apr 2016

Five Thirty Eight has flipped Wisconsin back to Clinton

Narrowly -- 51% to 49%. I assume that's because of the new Loras College poll, which puts her ahead by six points.

So it could well end up close to being a 50-50 split, which would be a major loss for Sanders.

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Five Thirty Eight has flipped Wisconsin back to Clinton (Original Post) DavidDvorkin Apr 2016 OP
A close race is a lose for Sanders mcar Apr 2016 #1
OMG - I hope so SharonClark Apr 2016 #2
Great hope it stays!!!!! Iamaartist Apr 2016 #3
That would be great to win it! Thanks for posting some good news! livetohike Apr 2016 #4
Imagine the turmoil at Sander's HQ... SaschaHM Apr 2016 #5
Lorias College Poll is GARBAGE kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #6
Nate Silver must think highly of it. DavidDvorkin Apr 2016 #8
College IDs will not be accepted as part of WI's new voter laws. stopbush Apr 2016 #7
but it will also affect others like minorities Her Sister Apr 2016 #10
True, but SaschaHM Apr 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Apr 2016 #19
Voter suppression is bad, and HRC is fighting it in WI KitSileya Apr 2016 #15
I think Trump's gaffes this week coupled with the attacks in Brussels stopbush Apr 2016 #9
It's close, with Sander's having a slight advantage still_one Apr 2016 #11
Interesting! LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #12
In her last 5 state primary sweep... Satch59 Apr 2016 #13
Yup. Make my day Wisconsin! misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #18
Major Loss. and wait till NY tells him what they think of his campaign misterhighwasted Apr 2016 #16
Man! From your keyboard to god's ears! BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #24
K&R! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #17
I'm gonna be the pessimist and say this state is just a demographic nightmare for Clinton geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
This will be an interesting primary to follow Gothmog Apr 2016 #21
A 20 point loss in NY will give her another 70 delegates Dawson Leery Apr 2016 #22
All the analysts say that at this point, simply "winning" is not enough for BS. He needs landslides Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #23

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
5. Imagine the turmoil at Sander's HQ...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

if he lost Wisconsin on Tuesday. GD-P would need counseling sooner than later. I don't think he would concede, but his campaign has talked up the state as a must win for himself.

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
7. College IDs will not be accepted as part of WI's new voter laws.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

That means that many potential Sanders voters will be turned away. Being low-info, feeling-entitled types, they probably don't even know the ID requirements.

I understand state DMV offices are dealing with last-minute requests for proper ID.

BTW - I think this ID requirement is unadulterated voter suppression. But it's there, and it needs to be dealt with in the acceptable ways if people want to vote. Complaining afterward won't help.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
10. but it will also affect others like minorities
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

and POC from what I understand. So bad from both sides, actually.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
14. True, but
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

PoC have been on the frontlines on this issue. Fighting this issue for months as it adversely affects them more, whereas college kids are now broaching the subject. I'd expect those fighting it to be prepared for this day more that many Sander's supporters who are now learning about the VRA.

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KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
15. Voter suppression is bad, and HRC is fighting it in WI
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

She's got her lawyer cooperating with local people, working on a lawsuit. I wonder what the BS campaign is doing about it? A whole lot of nothing so that they can complain about it after and blame Hillary when they lose?

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
9. I think Trump's gaffes this week coupled with the attacks in Brussels
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

will lead people to take another look at Hillary.

Bernie's pie-in-the-sky plans, disinterest in foreign policy and lame responses to Trump's attacks on women have put questions in people's minds about him as president. Even if you think Hillary is an evil corporatist, at least she's our evil corporatist (ha!) - sometimes the only way to fight fire is with fire.

Unicorns and butterflies just don't cut it when reality rears its ugly head.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
13. In her last 5 state primary sweep...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:32 PM
Apr 2016

Wasn't she slated to lose 1 or 2 of them? I'm hoping she pulls this one off, even a couple point win is a huge loss for berniville...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. I'm gonna be the pessimist and say this state is just a demographic nightmare for Clinton
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

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Much whiter than average, lots of college kids, this is Feingold territory and Feingold is Sanders's ideological twin

That poll shows a much smaller than normal lead for Sanders amongst 17-29 year olds

If she holds it under 10, long term victory--she'll trade a run for an out here

Tarheel_Dem

(31,245 posts)
23. All the analysts say that at this point, simply "winning" is not enough for BS. He needs landslides
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016

from here on out. If Hillary keeps him within single digits, either way, there's no way for him to climb out of his delegate funk.

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