Ben Jealous (former president of NAACP) on MSNBC today..

[drowefnp]

launched a scathing attack against Hillary Clinton about the Greenpeace activist incident yesterday and then went on to say Bernie is filling up large rallies with 15,000 people and how pathetic Hillary was because she can't even fill up the Apollo theatre.

I was really surprised at the tone of his statements.

Did anyone else catch that interview?

Wow!

[book_worm]

1. Articles I've read is that HRC had a capacity crowd at Apollo

Let Bernie have his 15,000 people rallies meanwhile HRC is 2.5 million votes ahead of him. If he wins Wisconsin (where she leads with Democrats but he leads with Independents) he will get at best only a few more delegates than she will--nothing like what he needs. Then we move on to several states that favor HRC and have lots of delegates in closed democratic primaries: New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Delaware.

BTW, While the media is making a good deal out of Bernie winning the last 5 out of 6 contests--he has won five caucuses--which are not really representative of the states as a whole while Hillary has won six out of the last six primaries.

[LisaM]

3. The Apollo was packed. What's he talking about?

Meanwhile, let's talk about these Sanders rallies. In the Seattle/Portland area, he held four rallies in about ten days, all within on a 100-mile swath of I-5. I know that for the one in Key Arena, they closed it off so that people couldn't get in - this left a lot of people outside, so it gave the impression that it was an overflow crowd, which was apparently not true.

For the Safeco Field rally, they were actively trying to drum up attendance, for example, at a Bruce Springsteen concert the night before. The organizer told my friend, "we're trying to get the biggest rally ever!"

Size matters to them at these rallies - never mind that they are holding them in Bernie-friendly territory (college campuses, left-leaning cities with a lot of young tech workers), and that they are holding multiple events close together in time and place. I know that for the four rallies in our area, a lot of the attendees went to all of them (in other words, it's not 15,000 unique individuals at each) and that they are working really hard to puff up attendance.

But what happens at these rallies? It's the same old speech. The same old take-off-his-jacket arm-waving Bernie, reveling in his new-found popularity and his self-appointed role as a savior. He doesn't come up with new plans, he doesn't announce new initiatives. It's eerily like watching Billy Graham.

Meanwhile, Hillary examines local issues and hold smaller, more targeted events. She's spoken to nurses, teachers, machinists, many, many diverse kinds of groups. She's just doing her usual hard work - keeping informed, staying flexible, grinding away in the face of a million attacks. I couldn't admire her more. She can do it without all the adulation.

So I'm not sure where Ben Jealous is coming from. And the Apollo was full

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

9. Saw the photos of the rally at the Key

They didn't fill the upper level. That's a capacity crowd?

[Walk away]

2. There are 3,000,000 registered Democrats in NYS....

This isn't Alaska where a rally full of Bernie voters can make or break an election. 15,000 Bernie fans are a drop in the bucket of votes.

[stopbush]

4. Bernie's surrogates are adopting the nastiness of his campaign.

They thought they had hitched their wagons to a star, but now they realize it's a comet that's burning out.

Nina Turner is the most-pathetic of them all. Couldn't get elected to a step-up spot in OH, so she deserted Hillary and went with Bernie early because she knew she'd get asked onto TV. She's delusional.

[BlueMTexpat]

5. Ben Jealous is a Sanders supporter

so he will, of course, adopt the tone set by the Sanders campaign.

It is very disappointing of both.

Here's what the New Yorker had to say about her visit to the Apollo Theater. Remember that it is not the size of the rallies that matters, it is the number of voters who actually vote for the candidate and right now millions MORE have voted FOR Hillary over Bernie.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/hillary-clinton-live-at-the-apollo

The line outside the Apollo Theatre on Wednesday morning snaked along 125th Street and up Frederick Douglass Boulevard, before curling onto 126th. “The next President is going to be here: we love her!” Fanta Kouyate, a child-services worker who had come across the Harlem River, from the Bronx, volunteered. “I wouldn’t miss it for the world,” Harriet Natkin, an Upper West Side resident who had come with a couple of friends, said. “I’m a very big Hillary supporter.”

With the Secret Service forcing everyone who entered the famous Harlem theatre to go through an airport-style security screening, the line was moving slowly. But the sun was shining and the crowd was good-natured and expectant. The New York primary is less than three weeks away, and, regardless of what happens in Wisconsin, next Tuesday, it could be a pivotal moment. If Clinton defeats Bernie Sanders comfortably in New York, as the opinion polls suggest she will, that could be it for the Vermont senator’s hopes of winning the Democratic nomination. But if Sanders were to shock everyone by defeating Clinton in her adoptive home state, all bets would be off.

“I like Bernie a lot—I saw him in Brooklyn last summer. But I just feel more comfortable with Hillary and her experience,” Gerion Edberg, a sixty-year-old Hell’s Kitchen resident who works in I.T., said to me. He told me that he had backed President Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary, but was now in Clinton’s camp. “She is more electable,” he said. “Keeping out the Republicans is the most important thing.” There were plenty of young people in line, too, although not as many as you would see at a Sanders rally. “Hillary is the most qualified candidate for the job, and it’s time for there to be a woman leader,” Vicki Wang, who is twenty-four and grew up in Arkansas, told me. “I think Bernie is too extreme—a bit unrealistic about what he is trying to accomplish.”

I believe that Ben Jealous is ... jealous.

[Cha]

10. He most certainly is, Blue.. and he might fool some of the people with

lyin' about this.. but, the people who were there and saw the photos know better and it will only make them mad they were lied about.

[bluestateguy]

6. I don't have time to go to political rallies and cheerlead

See, I work.

[SharonClark]

7. Everytime I see him on MSNBC

He is both scathing and dismissive of Hillary. He's a very smart guy and a fervid Bernie believer, I suspect he'll want a large role in a Bernie administration.

[Cha]

8. I'm not surprised.. he's BS man. They can't tell it like it is and they have to be nasty doing

it.

[Her Sister]

11. Rallies/Apollo

Think it's b/c of demographics since BS supporters tend to be a lot of university/college type who have time to show up to rallies. HRC supporters come from all ages and maybe older and so more obligations: work, family, children, illness, and so on. Makes it more difficult to find the time to attend rallies.

But make no mistake, as busy as we are, WE ARE VOTING FOR HER! and thrilled and enthusiastically so.

So to Ben Jealous, whatevs man!!!

[greatlaurel]

12. Jealous has a history of throwing women under the bus. Shirley Sherrod is an example.

Hillary Clinton is also being thrown under the bus by Jealous. Does the BS campaign mention that Jealous headed a venture capital fund? So BS is fine with the evil capitalists as long as they support him?

There is an awesome rant about Jealous throwing Shirley Sherrod under the bus when he was president of the NAACP.

ww.whataboutourdaughters.com/waod/2010/7/21/ben-jealous-should-resign-ben-jealous-roland-s-martin-white.html

Here is a statement from Ben Jealous - Mr. I don't know what's happening at my my own dad gum meetings:

“Since our founding in 1909, the NAACP has been a multi-racial, multi-faith organization that– while generally rooted in African American communities– fights to end racial discrimination against all Americans. We concur with US Agriculture Secretary Vilsack in accepting the resignation of Shirley Sherrod for her remarks at a local NAACP Freedom Fund banquet. Racism is about the abuse of power. Sherrod had it in her position at USDA. According to her remarks, she mistreated a white farmer in need of assistance because of his race. We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers. Her actions were shameful. While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man. The reaction from many in the audience is disturbing. We will be looking into the behavior of NAACP representatives at this local event and take any appropriate action. We thank those who brought this to our national office’s attention, as there are hundreds of local fundraising dinners each year."

"Oh so you can't get a discount ticket on US Airways to go visit Ms. Sherrod NOW? What? You participate in DEFAMING this grandmother and you pencil her in for the next time you happen to make it to Georgia. Mind you this is the same man who wrote op eds calling Van Jones a "Misunderstood Treasure" before giving him an award, but when a Black grandmother get shoved under the bus... "

[DURHAM D]

14. I will never forget the way he immediately jumped in front

of a tv camera to condemn Shirley and insist that she resign. He admitted that he had not seen the video and apparently did not know who Breitbart is/was. He just wanted to get on tv.


Hate him.

[HillareeeHillaraah]

13. When a picture's greater than a thousand smears.

Hillary at the Apollo

[Tanuki]

15. George Wallace drew a crowd of 16,000 at Madison Square Garden in 1968.

Was Ben Jealous impressed by that?

http://college.cengage.com/history/ayers_primary_sources/wallace_garden.htm


Sanders has also dismissed the Republican and democratic parties as "tweedle dee and tweedle dum, which he seems to have borrowed from Wallace, and said there was "essentially no difference", while Wallace phrased it as "not a dime's worth of difference."

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181