Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumI wonder if it is a good idea to add to the anti Hillary threads by posting responses.
The Bernie crowd will keep posting anti Hillary "news" pieces. If we didn't respond they would be preaching to the choir.
Hillary will answer the charges in her time.
Mr. Robot
(39 posts)and he's becoming an attractive solution. I just don't know if Clinton has the "it" factor anymore - seeing that she has been campaigning for quite some time, having to suffer a primary loss in 2008, after she was considered the top candidate.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Like Momma said if you can't say something nice don't say it.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)I'm a Sanders supporter, so I'm not an ally, but I am in a way. I keep chiding the Sanders people to do what Sanders does, stick to the facts and dial back a notch on the rhetoric. They sometimes yell at me and tell me to get lost, but I think it's only a few of them. I believe, I hope, most of them know a civilized campaign is good for the party, good for whomever is the nominee, and a beautiful contrast to the Republican slapstick vaudeville show. I think the people you call "the Bernie crowd" comprise a rather small group, and my advice is to avoid responding. At the very least, avoid responding in kind.
William769
(55,147 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)The last couple days have seen a real burst of articles blaming Clinton for anything and everything, guilt by association, etc. Some of it is really shameful, just Fox News type stuff. I know Sanders does not behave this way, and I wish his supporters would refrain. I don't know if there's any way to determine how much of this stuff is coming from the Bernie group. Maybe appealing to the hosts would have some effect.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)like yesterday the great poll numbers out of Iowa, there is a sharp increase in personal attacks against Hillary in GD.
Now the next big event for Hillary, the kick off in NYC is already drawing fire from the bernie fans.
Its going to be huge and it seems like they will try anything they can to knock it down.
The next good poll numbers for Hillary will draw the same response.
I wish we could all just talk about policy and stuff but the attacks will come like clockwork against her when there is good news to report.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I don't listen to FOX very often but sometimes when I am about to meet up with RW friends and want to be ready to counter their ridiculous talking points. It really does not help their candidate because the stories are not true. It would be good to stop the false talking points, it must just make the posters feel good because they do not have good information to deliver for their candidate.
William769
(55,147 posts)Just post the fact's. It'll drive them crazy as we have already witnessed.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)the last decade or the last century. I just ignore them.
One of the things that makes me smile is that the Bernie and Elizabeth supporters don't seem to understand that absolutely no one is more pleased about the conversation being pushed to the left than Hillary. She is and always has been a liberal but has been smart enough to keep it down while waiting for the rest of the party/voters/country to catch up.
As for the TPP ...95% of the country has no clue what it is and Hillary is staying mum while Obama works through it. She does not need to get out in front of it because she does not have a vote. Meanwhile, she does not want to stomp on Obama's toes and I appreciate that.
As for the corporate bankster stuff... how stupid. She has never been afraid to go in a room and talk to her enemies and given that when she was in the Senate one of her biggest constituents was Wall Street what the hell did they expect her to do? Not meet with them? Meanwhile if they are stupid enough to pay her large sums of money to talk to them even better for her or the Foundation. I guess if she had been a Senator from say Nebraska they would be hyperventilating about some vote on the Farm Bill.
As for Elizabeth Warren... they are buddies. Their staffs are close. I am not saying that Elizabeth will endorse Hillary, she can't afford to and still be effective but I have no doubt they have discussed strategy with each other.
In short, we have a lot of posters without a lot of knowledge about how this works. Plus, we have a lot of trolls and a good number of MRAers.
Cheers
And the constant misinformation posted serves one purpose, destroy HRC at any means necessary.
It's going to be a long primary season for the hair-on-fire folks
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)One reason we lose GD juries is that most of our side will respond in a thread and not be able to sit on a jury in the thread. There are simply more of them so they are the majority on juries.
But on the other hand they have to be challenged.
Lisa D
(1,532 posts)Interesting
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)so many of them I have on ignore.