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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:22 AM Mar 2016

Democrats to Sanders:Time to wind it down

The message senators are airing publicly mirrors what President Barack Obama told donors in private recently, according to The New York Times: That while Clinton may have her faults as a candidate, the party needs to channel its energy into defeating Trump.
Over the past month, Clinton campaign staffers have bristled at the way Sanders is running. A Clinton campaign memo said Sanders has been “increasingly negative” and accused him of breaking his vows not to name Clinton in his ads, blaming his sweeping losses on a negative strategy that “backfired.”

While tame compared with the accusations of lying and name-calling that dominate the Republican race, Sanders has gone after Clinton more aggressively of late. In the run-up to the Illinois primary, he highlighted her ties to Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who’s unpopular among African-American voters and distrusted by progressives. And Sanders has repeatedly dismissed Clinton supporters as part of the “establishment,” which Democratic senators interpret as showing disrepect for them.

"Bernie is a very constructive person. And he wants to move American politics closer in his direction. He’s done that already,” said Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, the expected next Democratic leader. “I am not worried.”

Democrats privately believe Sanders is already calculating how to gradually shift toward a posture of unity by summertime. With Clinton favored to win the nomination and beat Trump in the general election, Sanders also has to think about his relationship with a potential future president and returning to the Senate, where he caucuses with Democrats.

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Democrats to Sanders:Time to wind it down (Original Post) sufrommich Mar 2016 OP
BS is getting more money than Hillary but where is it going? He's losing and not tryin to help Cha Mar 2016 #1
He's not a Democrat. He's a Democrat For Convenience Only rock Mar 2016 #5
To show he actually cares about our country instead of his just ego? Cha Mar 2016 #6
I see no sign of such an emotion so far rock Mar 2016 #8
DINO is the term... Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #30
I heard on CNN this morning that Hillary has $31m in cash on hand and Bernie has $17mil, so I wonder BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #7
Oh wow.. I thought he would be bankrolled with bulging cash in his coffers from what Cha Mar 2016 #9
Exactly. He spent tons on TV ads. stopbush Mar 2016 #10
Thank Goodness! Cha Mar 2016 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #35
What? You mean that youth vote decided to stay home charlyvi Mar 2016 #31
Bernie Iamaartist Mar 2016 #20
March 17!? Her Sister Mar 2016 #25
I hope he does start to pivot to addressing the Republicans rather than demonizing HRC. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #29
He's 'berning' through it at a fast clip. MADem Mar 2016 #33
"Democrats privately believe Sanders is already calculating how to gradually shift toward a posture workinclasszero Mar 2016 #2
If true, he'll be a couple of months too late. My guess is that he's already decided... George II Mar 2016 #3
Well Bernie has been wrong his whole life workinclasszero Mar 2016 #4
I read that he was already raising $ to run for the Senate as an Indy stopbush Mar 2016 #11
Let him run as a Socialist DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #13
You're right. I pointed out a week or so ago that even though he's running for President... George II Mar 2016 #14
Makes me wonder what is up with the errors pandr32 Mar 2016 #23
He has already filed to run in Vermont as an Independent in 2018... Walk away Mar 2016 #17
He has to file in order to raise money. George II Mar 2016 #18
I guess he will pour the multi millions he collects from his faithful.... Walk away Mar 2016 #24
There are limitations, he can't transfer all of it to his Senate campaign. George II Mar 2016 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #34
"He'll be thought of in the same way that many Americans think of Ralph Nader." Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #32
At least Ralph Nader invented the seat belt. Bernie hasn't contributed anything except.... Walk away Mar 2016 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #36
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #15
this! Her Sister Mar 2016 #16
Is this posted in GD-P? yallerdawg Mar 2016 #19
I think Schumer is being over-gracious pandr32 Mar 2016 #21
Bernie's Growing Troubles with Illegal and Foreign Contribution Iamaartist Mar 2016 #22
The Federal Election Commission sent the Sanders campaign two letters regarding illegal donations. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #27
Bernie Iamaartist Mar 2016 #28

Cha

(297,447 posts)
1. BS is getting more money than Hillary but where is it going? He's losing and not tryin to help
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:28 AM
Mar 2016

anybody down ticket like Hillary is.. to help the Democratic structure of our Country.

"Democrats privately believe Sanders is already calculating how to gradually shift toward a posture of unity by summertime. With Clinton favored to win the nomination and beat Trump in the general election, Sanders also has to think about his relationship with a potential future president and returning to the Senate, where he caucuses with Democrats."

Yeah, the one he's demonizing now.

Mahalo, su.



rock

(13,218 posts)
8. I see no sign of such an emotion so far
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:02 AM
Mar 2016

Of course, it could happen. After all, he's not evil.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. I heard on CNN this morning that Hillary has $31m in cash on hand and Bernie has $17mil, so I wonder
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:56 AM
Mar 2016

where the cash he's raised has gone, too.

He raised $42m in the month of February alone! It looks as if this candidate doesn't budget well, and it makes one wonder how he can preside over a far larger bookkeeping apparatus like the U.S. Treasury. I wouldn't want him anywhere near it.

Cha

(297,447 posts)
9. Oh wow.. I thought he would be bankrolled with bulging cash in his coffers from what
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:06 AM
Mar 2016

I saw on the greatest. More $$$$$ flowed to him for 2 months in a row.. they were so excited!

Now you're telling me that Hillary has more on hand?! Wow.. where did all the money go? Bad investments in advertising in states he lost?

Mahalo BlueCali~

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
10. Exactly. He spent tons on TV ads.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:35 AM
Mar 2016

In politics, you either put in the time or end up putting in the money.

Bernie didn't build any kind of a ground game in most states. Because of that, he fell behind in winning delegates. It's more expensive to play catch up than to lead. His only recourse was to throw money at the delegate deficit thru ads and hope that it worked. Unless you've got a Willie Horton-style ad ready to go, that seldom works.

Ergo, we are where we are.

Response to Cha (Reply #12)

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
31. What? You mean that youth vote decided to stay home
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:45 PM
Mar 2016

or vote for Hillary. You mean the entire strategy for his campaign and future success in the Oval Office is standing on shaky ground?
Nooooooooooooooo!

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
20. Bernie
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

Right I had post on that while back haven't heard what happen to his date was march 17 to report to Treasury but yet he seems to still have money to go on..good question ?????

Fla Dem

(23,717 posts)
29. I hope he does start to pivot to addressing the Republicans rather than demonizing HRC.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

He has really diminished his persona with his negativity and nasty criticism of HRC. Not that she can't take it, but it just showed me what a self centered person he really is. I have no doubt he truly fights for the workers and fairness in the workplace. That he feels strongly about the 99% having a more equable piece of the pie. He could have gotten that message across without smearing his challenger for the Democratic nomination. As too his supporters (a very large vocal and on line cadre)have done all they can to demonize HRC in ruthless, demeaning attacks.

Whether he's moved the discussion more to the left remains to be seen. HRC has had a very populous and left leaning position for years. And she has many of then, while BS seems focused on just the oligarchy.

He would accomplish a lot if he turn his ire and supporters toward Trump and Cruz.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. He's 'berning' through it at a fast clip.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:38 PM
Mar 2016

He spent probably a half million on salaries in SC, at least. He spent at least a million on ads, maybe more.

There is no path for him. As people start to realize this, the money will dry up. He'll start dumping paid staff, and guess where they'll go looking for work as HRC gears up to general election mode? (Not the Trump campaign).

He HAD better think about his future--if he wants to stay in the Senate, fine, but if he wants a cabinet post, he'd better really start to think about his future and his relationship with Madame President. We'll know if he's staying in the Senate, or hoping for a cabinet post, by how hard he campaigns for her when he finally accepts the inevitable.

“It will be almost impossible for Sen. Sanders to catch up. And he should do the math and draw his own conclusions,” said Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.).
“The writing’s on the wall,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.).
The message senators are airing publicly mirrors what President Barack Obama told donors in private recently, according to The New York Times: That while Clinton may have her faults as a candidate, the party needs to channel its energy into defeating Trump.
Over the past month, Clinton campaign staffers have bristled at the way Sanders is running. A Clinton campaign memo said Sanders has been “increasingly negative” and accused him of breaking his vows not to name Clinton in his ads, blaming his sweeping losses on a negative strategy that “backfired.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-dems-winddown-220966#ixzz43ZWJ7ReY
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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. "Democrats privately believe Sanders is already calculating how to gradually shift toward a posture
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:35 AM
Mar 2016
of unity by summertime."

I wish this was true but I see no evidence of it. Looks like Bernie's doubling down on attacking Hillary and breaking his promises not to go negative.

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. If true, he'll be a couple of months too late. My guess is that he's already decided...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:43 AM
Mar 2016

...to not run for re-election in 2018 and he doesn't give a crap about his next two years in the Senate.

Whatever obscure legacy he had there (who really heard much of him before last year anyway?) will be destroyed by his obstinance and refusal to stop his campaign.

He'll be thought of in the same way that many Americans think of Ralph Nader.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. Well Bernie has been wrong his whole life
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:51 AM
Mar 2016

Why change now eh?

He could have joined the party 30 years ago and been an effective agent of change but naw.

Nobody was good enough for Bernie so he went out on his own and accomplished damn little as far I i'm concerned.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
13. Let him run as a Socialist
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

since that is what he has professed to for many years. This "Democratic Socialist" bs is just that, bs. And, when he decides to run as I again, no real surprise there, keep his fingers out of the Dem coffers he's been so happy to have a hand in for years.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. You're right. I pointed out a week or so ago that even though he's running for President...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:51 AM
Mar 2016

...as a "democrat", he's still fundraising for Senate as an Independent. His two committees (from FEC.gov):

S4VT00033 SANDERS, BERNARD 2016 BURLINGTON VT INDEPENDENT S - SENATE
P60007168 SANDERS, BERNARD 2016 BURLINGTON VT DEMOCRATIC PARTY P - PRESIDENTIAL

He currently has almost $4M in his Senate Campaign treasury. Interesting that almost 75% are "un-itemized", meaning that he hasn't reported any details of that roughly $3M in contributions!!

If that's anything like his presidential campaign treasury, no doubt that's rife with errors, inconsistencies, and improper contributions.

pandr32

(11,599 posts)
23. Makes me wonder what is up with the errors
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

He is aware of them, since the FEC has weighed in about problems--not just in contributions, but improper campaign expenses as well.
This has happened within campaigns of others and seems to rarely result in meaty charges.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
17. He has already filed to run in Vermont as an Independent in 2018...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

So much for the Democratic party. Maybe we should sue him for the use of the hall!

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. There are limitations, he can't transfer all of it to his Senate campaign.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

He can give the remainder to other candidates' committees and the DNC, but from his past performance he'll give little, if any.

Response to Walk away (Reply #17)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
32. "He'll be thought of in the same way that many Americans think of Ralph Nader."
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:24 PM
Mar 2016

You got that right. Of course, I already think of him that way. I don't like the way he has used the Democratic party like an off-ramp toilet, and then he'll just slide back into the Senate, after he's done irreversible damage to the presumptive nominee.

I mean, the party should have some serious discussions about who gets to run a national campaign on our ticket going forward. If you're not a member, you don't get use the infrastructure that you've berated for decades, just for $$$$ & access. What's to stop the next Donald Trump, or Ralph Nader from doing the same thing? There should be some vetting process before ANYONE is allowed to use us that way.

We know Nader's ultimate goal has been to destroy the Democratic party from within, and I'm beginning to wonder if BS is after the same thing?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
37. At least Ralph Nader invented the seat belt. Bernie hasn't contributed anything except....
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:45 PM
Mar 2016

the names of some Post Offices!

Response to workinclasszero (Reply #2)

pandr32

(11,599 posts)
21. I think Schumer is being over-gracious
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:59 AM
Mar 2016

But, of course I understand why. It seems that Sanders has well passed the "constructive" campaign and is well into a destructive one.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
22. Bernie's Growing Troubles with Illegal and Foreign Contribution
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie was suppose to report to the Treasury department Bernie's Growing Troubles with Illegal and Foreign Contribution but seems still to have money to go on as yet ???

Fla Dem

(23,717 posts)
27. The Federal Election Commission sent the Sanders campaign two letters regarding illegal donations.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016
Since October of 2015 to the end of January, the FEC counted a total of 665 potentially illegal foreign donations to the Sanders campaign, and hundreds of donors who have exceeded their contribution limits. The FEC noted more foreign contributions in just the month of January than in the previous three months combined, and has flagged over 3,500 contributions as over-limit. Through the end of December alone, the Sanders campaign had collected more than $23 million in donations without sourcing them or certifying that those came from donors whose aggregate total giving is below $200.

Read more
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/14/bernie-sanders-potentially-illegal-campaign-contributions

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
28. Bernie
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

Did a post on that while back but as yet nothing became of it,on him he seems to still have lots of money to go on, so far nothing out of the media on it.

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