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dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 03:56 PM Mar 2016

Hillary Group-I think I finally realized Why some Sanders supporters are so angry

They are the ones who wanted a coronation. They are the ones who wanted the rest of us to just roll over and accept Sanders as the Democratic nominee.

All this crap about him polling the best in the general election is nothing more than a smokescreen.

They point to these polls while ignoring the fact that the Democratic base voting in the primaries and caucuses favor Hillary.

It reminds me of an authority figure who says he or she knows what's best for you so sit down and shut up.

Guess what I'm not going to and Iknow millions of others who aren't going to do that either.

They accuse Hillary supporters of being arrogant? Some people need take a long hard look in the mirror.

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Hillary Group-I think I finally realized Why some Sanders supporters are so angry (Original Post) dlwickham Mar 2016 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #1
You do realize what group you're in right? Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #7
Lol.. No, poster, THAT is the dumbest answer.. misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #15
Enjoy your stay shenmue Mar 2016 #21
Thanks for stopping by. George II Mar 2016 #24
The citing of hypothetical match up polls is sad Gothmog Mar 2016 #2
They're angry because they believe that Sanders is going to do the things he promised Yavin4 Mar 2016 #3
Reminds me of when I was in student government in junior and senior high school. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #8
Can I start calling him Brownie Sanders? LisaM Mar 2016 #30
Instead Of Railing Against The Dems otohara Mar 2016 #9
That is what is so discouraging about him. And his smears about Hillary being corrupt. boston bean Mar 2016 #40
Sanders' goals are noble, and he focuses on important key issues, but the solutions are unrealistic. RBInMaine Mar 2016 #41
They'd turn on him in a heartbeat NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #43
Precisely. They're voting for him to deliver on these things. Yavin4 Mar 2016 #45
Many Sanders supporters find it difficult to accept that Democrat likes Clinton better than Sanders Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #4
The most bizarre comment was that Sanders won Super Tuesday question everything Mar 2016 #5
To be fair, it's natural to be upset when you have lost or aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #6
I was upset at first. Then my maturity kicked in and I was disappointed. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #12
very cool!! Her Sister Mar 2016 #16
Same here! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #20
Yeah, I sort of went, "Eh. So it goes." Treant Mar 2016 #26
Yes, that's the difference NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #44
But their state of "upset" wasn't nearly the level we've seen the last week or two. George II Mar 2016 #25
I don't remember it being like this though. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #29
Great take Tommy2Tone Mar 2016 #10
Its a part of politics UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #11
We think as Democrats people should vote for whoever they wish in the primary Her Sister Mar 2016 #13
And that's fine! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #22
(More RedditBro trolls above...) LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #14
Lemmings? dlwickham Mar 2016 #23
Oh yeah shenmue Mar 2016 #17
Nailhead meet hammer! pandr32 Mar 2016 #18
Unmanaged expectations are the cause of so much anger. IMHO Alfresco Mar 2016 #19
Amen!! I'm so sick of the entitlement redstateblues Mar 2016 #27
"It reminds me of an authority figure who says he or she knows what's best for you..." NurseJackie Mar 2016 #28
Can you tell I was a bit pissed off when I wrote this dlwickham Mar 2016 #32
The difference... HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #34
First I thought it was just ideological excitement Loki Mar 2016 #31
That is what's driving them bananas Politicub Mar 2016 #33
As a man ~ fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #35
Ditto. Treant Mar 2016 #37
Well, it needed to be said. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #36
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #38
The true mark of the Sanders supporter is how they react if he loses. joshcryer Mar 2016 #39
Sanders has committed to support Hillary if she wins, and most will follow which is good. RBInMaine Mar 2016 #42
Wow, check out your sig line, josh.. That's some fancy work.. Cha Mar 2016 #46
K&R SharonClark Mar 2016 #47

Response to dlwickham (Original post)

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
7. You do realize what group you're in right?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:28 PM
Mar 2016

You also realize that by posting this condescending and snarky video response, you only serve to prove the OP's point and show your glaring lack of class, civility, or maturity?

Gothmog

(145,312 posts)
2. The citing of hypothetical match up polls is sad
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

These polls are worthless and do not show that Sanders is electable

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
3. They're angry because they believe that Sanders is going to do the things he promised
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:06 PM
Mar 2016

Like free college, single payer health care, etc. They have no clue as to how our government actually works and a president cannot deliver any of those things without congress.

Sanders knows and he's been pandering since day one. He doesn't have the political clout to deliver on any of his promises, but he gets followers nonetheless.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
8. Reminds me of when I was in student government in junior and senior high school.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

I refused to tell people the stupid kinds of things others were like -- I'll make sure that every lunch comes with a free brownie (someone promised this!) -- and I won the election for Student Body President and other offices based on this.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
9. Instead Of Railing Against The Dems
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

he should have worked to get more elected and encouraged people to vote for Dems. Instead he whipped up a whole bunch of anger towards Democrats. I used to listen to him rant every week on the radio, but grew tired of it especially when he started with the primary talk.

David Plouffe is on record - they thought Sanders was going to primary Obama.



boston bean

(36,221 posts)
40. That is what is so discouraging about him. And his smears about Hillary being corrupt.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:24 AM
Mar 2016

Makes me sort of really not like him, personally.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
41. Sanders' goals are noble, and he focuses on important key issues, but the solutions are unrealistic.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 08:37 AM
Mar 2016

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
43. They'd turn on him in a heartbeat
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:18 AM
Mar 2016

If in the very unlikely events that he wins a) the Primaries and b) the GE, and he fails to deliver the free college, single payer health, etc. etc. If you think they're angry NOW, picture his failed presidency. Happily, that won't happen!

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
45. Precisely. They're voting for him to deliver on these things.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

And when he doesn't, then not only would it been seen as a failed presidency, it would be seen as Progressivism failed, and the movement would be set back for generations.

For Sanders' policies to be enacted, he needs more than a political revolution. He needs a cultural one. He fails to mention the high level of taxation that Europeans pay for these social programs and the lower level of spending on defense since they rely on the US to come to their rescue if bad things happen.

Sanders believes that resistance to his policies are coming from the establishment, Wall Street, and billionaires, but that is patently false. The American people don't want to pay higher taxes for greater social spending and they don't want to make huge cuts in defense as well. Until you change that culturally, we're never going to be Europe.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. Many Sanders supporters find it difficult to accept that Democrat likes Clinton better than Sanders
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:14 PM
Mar 2016

The idea that people would think Clinton will make a better President than Sanders is inconceivable to them, so they grasp at straws to come up with an excuse for Sanders.

They grasp theoretical match-ups because they are looking for something to justify their faith.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
5. The most bizarre comment was that Sanders won Super Tuesday
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

even his campaign was hoping for winning in five states and he won only four.


aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
6. To be fair, it's natural to be upset when you have lost or
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

or know you are going to lose.


If I recall, there were plenty of Clinton supporters who were upset in the Spring of 2008.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
12. I was upset at first. Then my maturity kicked in and I was disappointed.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't once come on here and attack Obama supporters. Not once did my wife or I find it necessary to come on and insult people. That's called maturity. Hopefully they get a bit of that.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
26. Yeah, I sort of went, "Eh. So it goes."
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

Then, "Not that I think Obama will be a bad President and I'll vote for him." Which I did.

Twice.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
29. I don't remember it being like this though.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

And even though I was an Obama-crazed fan, I have friends who were Hillary08 supporters from nice interactions we had after the primaries. I don't get the sense that is going to come about after this.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
11. Its a part of politics
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

This is the natural ebb and flow of politics. Just like this sudden outrage about superdelegates. Superdelegates aren't new. This isn't some new phenomenon that started with Hillary Clinton. But for whatever reason, this election cycle there is such outrage that there are superdelegates already committed to her. Personally, I DON'T like the idea of superdelegates and never have. But the outrage this cycle is on hyperdrive.

Yes, Bernie supporters are going to be very upset. I forget who was on one of the cable shows and made a very good point. In 2008, Obama was the movement, and he said its much easier to get the establishment to go with the movement, then to get the movement to go with the establishment. So I think you could have more disaffected Bernie supporters this cycle. I'm undecided. Once I vote in April, if I vote Bernie and it ends up being Hillary then I will back Hillary. Can't afford to not vote or sit out.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
13. We think as Democrats people should vote for whoever they wish in the primary
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:38 PM
Mar 2016

that's the reason for the primary, to choose the candidate that will represent us in the General!

I voted for Hillary in 2008, but accepted that yes Obama got more votes and delegates. Live with it!! Que sera sera!! Let bygones be bygones!! No sense being nasty to your own party. Geesh!!

After the nominee was selected in 2008 it was full force from then on!!!!!

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
22. And that's fine!
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:06 PM
Mar 2016

I know many people like you and I consider them good friends.

That's the real world.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. "It reminds me of an authority figure who says he or she knows what's best for you..."
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016
It reminds me of an authority figure who says he or she knows what's best for you so sit down and shut up.

Exactly! Perfect description.

Go, Hillary! We love you!


 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
34. The difference...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016


Hillary listens.

Bernie tells.

People want to be heard.

That's why I think she's winning.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
31. First I thought it was just ideological excitement
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

but I think it's passed into the cult of personality and no one can say anything about their "Dear Leader". They have lost the capability to think logically and with rational expectations. I guess I understand the Tea Party fanaticism better now. I once felt that way about Robert Kennedy, but after his assassination, I vowed to never let myself get that attached to any political figure. They are just people with all the frailties that go with being human.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
39. The true mark of the Sanders supporter is how they react if he loses.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:06 AM
Mar 2016

Which is looking, unfortunately, quite likely.

Many Sanders "supporters" just backed him because he was an alternative to Clinton, and their support will drop as soon as he endorses Clinton and fights for her. Every smear they use against Clinton supporters will apply to Sanders himself, and they will say some very nasty things. The Sanders group, for example, should pivot to posting his pro-Clinton rallies, but they won't do that. They'll go radio silent.

In real life us Sanders supporters will support Clinton without blinking an eye.

Cha

(297,295 posts)
46. Wow, check out your sig line, josh.. That's some fancy work..
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

And, Mahalo.. I appreciate it very much!

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