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You knew it was coming! (Original Post) leftofcool May 2015 OP
I am going to enjoy every minute of her presidency GusBob May 2015 #1
Yes. I will be enjoying it also. misterhighwasted May 2015 #5
It's a 'no win' situation. yallerdawg May 2015 #2
Why don't you tell that to my face nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #3
This is the Hillary Clinton Room leftofcool May 2015 #4
Best room on the block. Best members & Best candidate for America 2016 misterhighwasted May 2015 #6
I know, but my criticism was directed at the media nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #7
I heard very pointed particular up-to-the-second questions, and answers to each. yallerdawg May 2015 #8
She could have gone and told me to my face nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #9
You mentioned Bernie Sanders on the Thom Hartmann show GusBob May 2015 #10
And he has also been going on national media nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #11
I understand what you are saying GusBob May 2015 #12
I eat policy for breakfast nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #13

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
1. I am going to enjoy every minute of her presidency
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:51 PM
May 2015

Of course I really got a kick of how President Bill Clinton would make people so apoplectic, every lil' thing he did

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. It's a 'no win' situation.
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:54 PM
May 2015

The questions are just as irrelevant to the argument as the answers.

If it is about Hillary, it is prejudged and inarguable.

They feel about Hillary the same way we feel about every Republican out there.

I don't know how they can walk it back. We are assured they can and will.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Why don't you tell that to my face
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:02 PM
May 2015

because they were. I heard nobody ask a hard ball question,

For the record, the questions of every other candidate are whiffle balls

It is called access.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. I know, but my criticism was directed at the media
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:18 PM
May 2015

not her. Capiche?

The Main Stream Media refuses to ask questions of most of these politicians, republican, democratic, it matters little. It is access.

I cannot wait, though I will wait a lifetime, for any of these members of the media to ask a hard ball question from any of our politicians. They higher the are in government the least likely by the way.

Try to keep up.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. I heard very pointed particular up-to-the-second questions, and answers to each.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:38 PM
May 2015

Your premise is just your opinion.

And you are arguing it is all about access, for a candidate who is accused of offering no access to MSM?

You just want to pointlessly argue - and not respect our safe haven from pointless arguments.


 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. She could have gone and told me to my face
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:46 PM
May 2015

and my opinion of the Main Stream Media is very low, you are correct on that.

Here are some of the questions I would love the media to ask of ANYBODY, not just her. But will preface it with her, since it was her this morning. So you understand I want these questions to be asked of Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, Bernie Sanders. those we have not heard from yet. In fact, ALL OF THEM.

Madam Secretary (insert pol here, could be Sanders, could be Rubio could be my mayor for all I care, though my mayor will have an easy out), how do you account for the failure of urban schools in many large school districts, while their counterparts in suburban areas do well under the same supposed funding? And if I may follow up, how will the DoE deal with this result at a national policy level? It seems that NCLB has been a failure in dealing with urban schools?

Education is on my mind right now.

Foreign affairs. Since she was SOS, Madam Secretary how do you account for TPP, and how do you expect it to have different results when KORUS led to 70K in job losses in the US, and NAFTA to 1 million? How do you expect to make sure that this result is different in a treaty that experts such as Stieglitz and Krugman expect to see further erosion in Middle Class jobs?

This question could be asked and should, of every politician running for President, I will presume more knowledge from her since she was SOS when KORUS was ratified. Sorry, but the USTR is part of the Department of State.

I could go on...

Policing. Madam Secretary, we know that one issue with policing is implicit bias, how do you expect to change the culture of 18000 police departments to include a change of culture from the warrior ethos to the guardian ethos?

This comes from Policing in the 21st century, which has identified that as a major issue.

You thinking I am attacking you or her by actually pointing that these were whiffle balls, and I heard them... speaks about you. And with that, good bye.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
10. You mentioned Bernie Sanders on the Thom Hartmann show
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:43 PM
May 2015

answering questions. Talk about softballs....

And talk about boring! Man I wanted to be a Bernie guy, he has all the right positions. But Jesus the guy on the radio show, every Friday for the past 2 years: Dull, repetitive, ultra-wonkish....I got sick and tired of the same words repeated in a dull monotone voice full of phlegm .

Its shallow I know. I know. But in all the times I listen to him on that show, not once did he laugh, not even a chuckle. not even a hint of levity or even sound like he's smiling. On a couple of occasions the caller said a funny or something kind ( Thom has the best callers), Bernie was just as wooden and stiff as a soap dish and so fucking serious. I know, I know, the issues can be serious. But the dude needs to lighten up

Nobody is gonna vote for a guy with the personality of a mortician

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. And he has also been going on national media
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:58 PM
May 2015

and my understanding is without pre screened questions. I want EVERY CANDIDATE to adopt that. Go on news shows regularly and ANSWER HARD BALL POLICY QUESTIONS I want every candidate, whether it is Ben Carson, HRC, or one we have not yet heard from, to do that

But I am concerned with policy not looks. The country has many large issues, and we are going head long into a major crisis... (hint, not economic, though it will have economic components in the trillions), and I want to hear from every person who is a serious contender to the WH speak to those issues at a policy level.

I have quite a bit of disdain for large media organizations. This is not about her. She is not the one asking for whiffle balls. This is about the media that avoids those hard ball policy questions. The reasons are many. Some reporters, yes I have seen this, are utterly ignorant of what the Speaker of the House does... be scared.

Some reporters don't know anything about policy, why pray tell me they are told to follow pols on the trail, is a good question... a few of them are far better suited for the sports beat. Some reporters are following instructions from editors who truly fear losing access if they ask a hard ball question from any of these clowns. For the record, they are all clowns, ambitious clowns but clowns.

This is how much I expect to change is Bernie Sanders got sworn in, or HRC to the White House. Nada, zip, not at all, not one bit... oligarchies run on auto pilot... and in oligarchies the media uses quite a bit of self censorship. And freedom of the press continues to go down in the United States, so I really do not expect media to ask actual questions. Whiffle balls, soft balls, sure... and they are going to blow those out of the park, with a few exceptions. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio blew the obvious softballs and those were obvious fouls. (Iraq war)

Which speaks to their inability to answer the obvious questions, I really do not want to think what will happen if either of them has to face an actual real world crisis.

So again, she should have told me, the OP, to my face. And this is not about HRC, but quite a broken media system. I see that most people really do not want to discuss this and that is quite telling to.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
12. I understand what you are saying
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:05 PM
May 2015

and I may very well be off base here....but it is my feeling that the American public wants a president with just a bit of personality.

I used to go to a Dr who was like him. Smart and had all the answers, but man oh man dull....

My new Dr is a tad scatter-brained but kind and very friendly. I feel much better with that Dr

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. I eat policy for breakfast
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:06 PM
May 2015

so I want to hear a lot more on policy than we will, by the time it is all said and done.

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