The margin in South Carolina suggests Sanders is going to be annihilated on Super Tuesday

[riversedge]

I tend to be more cautious --and not count the chicks till hatched


Nate_Cohn

The margin in South Carolina suggests Sanders is going to be annihilated on Super Tuesday http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/upshot/hillary-clintons-winning-numbers-in-south-carolina-suggest-sweep-in-south.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news …

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R!

[Cha]

2. "I tend to be more cautious --and not count the chicks till hatched" Always that way..

It works better for me, rivers. Thank you~

[BlueMTexpat]

7. Add me for a second.

It is always better to see those chicks!

[Rose Siding]

9. That's how I do it

If she wins where she's ahead now and keeps it close should she lose the others (except delegate poor VT, of course) she'll be fine.

At least I'm enjoying it more though

[yallerdawg]

3. "Annihilated!"

We are getting close to running out of synonyms in the thesaurus!

[MSMITH33156]

4. That's why he abandoned all of those states

he's no longer trying to win the nomination. His plan right now is to win as many states as possible (forget delegates), so he can make the argument after Super Tuesday that the race isn't over.

He'll win Vermont easily, and then he is throwing resources into Oklahoma, Minnesota, Colorado and Massachusetts. He's hoping to win those, and say, "I won 5, she won 6, game on"...but in reality, 4 of those 5 will be razor thin one way or another, and she'll blowout the 6 she wins, so even in his best case scenario, the delegate math becomes impossible. He is targeting the states with less black voters to try and create a "not over" narrative. But if he was trying to win the election, he would be nationwide and try to knock down the deficits in the states he's losing, so that he keeps the delegates close.

I think Hill can win some of Sanders' targets too, particularly Oklahoma and Massachusetts. So, his strategy for relevance might come apart anyway. But the nomination? He's abandoned that.

[okasha]

22. A couple things abour Oklahoma.

1. The white Dems run pretty much moderate. There's a lot of Sanders' platform that won't look attractive to them, let alone possible.

2. There are a large number of people of color in Oklahoma whom Sanders has completely ignored until a couple days ago, when he hired a Native American advisor. Wall Street won't resonate with them. And after a couple centuries of frequently violent racial bigotry, they're going to be hard to convince that "income inequality" is the reason Native women are being attacked by white rapists on the reservations, where tribal law enforcement can't prosecute them and white authorities won't. It's not why the Indian Health Service hospitals and clinics are substandard. It's not why young Native men are gunned down by white law enforcement or jailed at a rate comparable to African Americans.

Gods, I hope he's out of the race by powwow season. Watching him try to work the circuit would be painful.

[Thinkingabout]

5. I can speak for Texas, though the Black vote will be important so will Latino,

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middle easterns, and Asians voters. In Harris County whites are in the minority. Latinos are growing and they are wanting to be heard along with Black and other minorities. Texas will be different than NH.

[BlueCaliDem]

11. Not to be contrary, but just as helpful advice, the term "Oriental" is a pejorative among Asians

IF you mean "Orientals" in that context. Orientals are just M.E.: Persians (oriental rug = Persian rug), more specifically.

As an Asian, I know this to be true. Just trying to help so you might not use that word in relation to Asians on other sites.

You can do no wrong with me, Thinkingabout. I will always love you for being you!

[Thinkingabout]

12. Sorry

[BlueCaliDem]

15. Absolutely no reason to apologize to me, Thinkingabout. I know where your heart is, and it's in a

GOOD and warm place.

I just worry that if you go to other sites that don't know you as well, it might get you some upset responses.

[Zambero]

6. Regardless of the outcome

Hillary was never entitled to a presumptive "coronation", and indeed no one should be exempt from the scrutiny and opportunity of debate provided during a presidential primary. Bernie has raised issues that needed to be addressed in this campaign, and we can certainly be grateful for his doing so.

[misterhighwasted]

8. I disagree. His issues were fine but his target was dead wrong

And the Pac money that followed him from day one was intended to divide the Party with smears, underhanded maneuvers, data theft, and of littlw substance when he was called to address how his grand plans would be brought to reality.
He answered what he wanted to & pivoted from any question that he was weak on, like foreign policy.

Sanders has much dirt to answer for but refuses to and simply looks the other way when a controversial subject is presented.

Lately he has parroted RW memes & accepted Pac assist from Nadar Nurses, to RW ad buys against Clinton.
He touts his message but allows any nefarious Pac or big money group to do the smear job for him.
He is as corrupt in this as the big money mantra he repeats ad nauseum.
One note message that holds no water when looking at the Pacs & RW big money that paves his way.

There is much more about Sanders that is scrubbed clean from the RW owned MSM.
His, has been a campaign of slander, backdoor big money assist & censorship of any who dare question his motive & method.
Thanks anyway.

[Zambero]

10. I'm still undecided and could live with either candidate

as opposed to the nightmare of what unbridled GOP control would have in store for us. End times indeed. Having said that, by all appearances Hillary has a huge advantage in most states and has this thing about 97% locked up. At this point, it might be prudent for her most vocal supporters to set their sights on the road ahead and (just perhaps) tone down the rhetoric a bit and start mending some fences with Bernie's supporters, as we will need them in a BIG way come November.

[misterhighwasted]

13. it is not the hillary supporters who have swarmed social media censoring all who oppose sanders.

It is not the hillary supporters who have attacked with vulgar language, profanity that belongs in an X rated movie. It is not the hillary supporters who shut down & censor others.
And its not the hillary supporters who have vowed to vote republican if bernie doesn't win. And he won't.

His supporters tactics are vulgar dirty & far from representing the great Dem Party.
I don't care who they vote for, since reasoning with them has proven useless. Hillary will win the GE by the sheer honesty & thoroughness of her understanding of world affairs, economic imbalance, and human rights.
She already has the bright & refined skillset to lead this country in the fragile balance of the world we live in.

People who want that kind of a successful leader will vote for Hillary, those that don't will abstain or choose another, whatever their reason may be.

Dirty vulgar players can do whatever they like. I am not interested in begging for their votes after the way they have approached this primary chase.

[Zambero]

16. OK, presuming that is all correct

Your side is winning big and come Tuesday it could be imminent. Every campaign has rude obnoxious folks and Bernie's would certainly include some of those, although they are not all monsters by any means. You won't need to beg for every vote, but you will need them nevertheless or Hillary goes down. Many cannot perceive this but it could very well happen unless the party unites, the sooner the better. Reagan was underestimated in 1980 and Trump must NOT be or he becomes President with dire consequences. I happen to admire Bernie a lot, but Hillary appears to be the most practical and level-headed candidate, arguably the most electable, and her ardent supporters might wish to reach out, try and win graciously, and follow her lead if winning means anything.

[misterhighwasted]

18. Reach out to who? Its up to the other supporters to decide who to vote for.

If, by now, they cannot offer as much as a congrats to HRC for SC, nothing but the same old antagonist, crude approach to HRC is being offered.
The Hillary campaign doesn't need to beg haters for votes.
They are either with her in the GE to defeat the RW or they
are not.
Hillary owes them no more consideration than they have given her.
There will be some true sanders Dems that will join her and the rest were never in it to do more than break the Party at any cost.
The Dem Party has seen it before. The revolution of fringe groups.
Nadar Nurses who cared not that Gore accumulate enough votes to secure a solid vote count against GWBush, but to split off enough votes to make the RW theft a possibility. And they did just that. Cheered their success. And what did that ununited effort get this country.
We are still buried in the bull shit of that result. GWBush, Cheney & team, damaged this nation more than anyone ever should have.
But the Nadar fringe won. Something, I guess.

Bernie Sanders has the exact same method to the campaign madness going on & its not about his message. Its about the same division that occurred in Nadar ,Bush, Gore. Country be damned.
His supporters have proven this by the behavior throught the primary.
Slander & censorship, assisted by the RW ad buys.
It is not the Dem Party he has been aligned with.

Hillary is strong enough to win with those who are loyal Dems & those who help other Congressional Dems along.
Sanders has contributed zero to changing the legislative balance..zero.
Yes the bernie supporters who give a shit about restoring balance for all to this country will join Hillary in the GE.

The rest were never in it to defeat the GOP, but to divide the Dem Party.
I'm not about to beg any anti Hillary voter to join us.
Not anymore. They showed their true colors every day since the race began & they never were Dems.

[Zambero]

20. As you wish

Just keep in mind that it will likely be a close race and every swing state vote is essential. It was close enough for the GOP to steal in 2000. They are not above repeating themselves if provided the opportunity. Reaching out = fence mending = increased chance of victory. I don't want Hillary to lose.

[misterhighwasted]

21. Fence Mending? Reaching out to people who have never had any intention of

supporting Hillary nor the Dem Party is useless grovelling.
Don't you think?
They can join in of they so wish.
Its up to bernie sanders to lead his flock to vote Dem & defeat the RW.
I owe none of the 24/7 haters a single thing anymore.

The battle is with the GOP in the GE from here on.
They can join that cause or go elsewhere.
Later

[George II]

14. He could conceivably lose every other state but Vermont. I don't know that he's ahead in the polls.

...in any other states.

If he can't pull off even one other state (along with Vermont) on Tuesday, there would be no sensible reason for him remaining a candidate.

[peggysue2]

17. The End is Near

Nevada was Bernie's Waterloo. He spent a lot of resources, was confident of a winning result but couldn't pull it off. The Hispanic vote went to Hillary, despite the initial entrance polls. Add South Carolina where Hillary just won a staggering % of the AA vote and was winning with white voters as well. She won every damn county. Sets her up perfectly for a Super Tuesday sweep.

It's all over but for the weeping. My chickens are peep-peeping, eggs all hatched.

Even Van Jones admitted that last night's result was a repudiation of Sander's platform. And Van Jones is about as far left as you can get. But he's worked with HRC, knows her and respects her. So, I don't think this came as surprise for him either.

[misterhighwasted]

19. The end is near..

[okasha]

23. If I may tinker with your metaphor a bit,

South Carolina was his invasion of Russia. Super Tuesday will be his Waterloo, with all the Dem base allied against him.