Throwing African-American voters under the bus (Hillary Group)

[book_worm]

Just saw a thread titled "Here's Why We Should Ignore SC Vote" and I opened it out of curiosity. Here are some of the "highlights" from that thread:

"1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared."

" SC retains the Master/servant style of population. Hillary represents the master class well, with her riches and standing. Bernie, being Jewish and a white male has three strikes against him."

Another thread stated:

"The hell with the Confederacy...I just donated $10 to Bernie, join me in my defiance"

And there are others threads and comments like that. They are demonstrating why they lost SC and are likely to lose much of the South and states with big minority populations like Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey and Illinois. They just don't understand that the strength of the Democratic Party in the South is African-American voters. I find it offensive when a state like South Carolina has a turnout of African-Americans exceeding 61% in the Democratic primary and some ding bats writes that we "should ignore SC vote" or call a state with a significant African-American population part of "the Confederacy". To me this is why some Bernie supporters come across as latte liberals. Sure we want big turnouts among young people, but you can't base a national campaign just hoping that you win the white vote and voters under 30. There needs to be respect for the strength of the Democratic party--African-Americans and others (yes who may actually be middle aged or more) who actually care about getting out and voting because they believe in a candidate and don't want a GOP president elected.

[DemonGoddess]

1. K&R!

[sufrommich]

2. They're going after all the Southern states in the primaries now.

The only good democrat is a northern democrat,I guess.

[BlueMTexpat]

12. Bernie actually said on Stefacoufalus

this am that he expects to do better among northern AAs.

That would bear out your hypothesis.

[OilemFirchen]

15. "Northern" is relative.

He's also effectively conceding Michigan, Illinois, Missouri and Ohio.

[stonecutter357]

3. K&R!

[Cha]

4. Nice sig line!

[stonecutter357]

5. Good morning Cha.

can you fax me some
?

[Cha]

7. Can I fax you some spam?

lol No.

Good morning stonecutter~

[Ellen Forradalom]

30. But you can email it

Just look in the Spam folder

[George II]

6. Somebody the other day actually said that if a state didn't vote Democratic in the last...

...election (2012) they should not be allowed to participate in the primaries! WTF?

[72DejaVu]

11. So, in 1976 only DC and Mass would have had primaries?

[yallerdawg]

8. It's truly bizarre.

This is mirroring exactly what the Republican Party 'hates' about "the Democrats."

Now we have to ask ourselves, "If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...?

[mcar]

9. Tone deaf

[MSMITH33156]

10. How do they ever

expect to expand the base and win nationally if they ignore states? South Carolina was 10 point loss in 2012 for Obama? Virginia was 8 percent in 2000 and 2004, and then Obama won it the last 2 elections. Demographics are constantly shifting, and the South, particularly the Carolinas (both North and South) and Georgia are slowly, excruciatingly drifting left because they have large African American populations AND because there are people from other parts of the country relocating there for work. That's why Virginia crossed over. And those states are next. Maybe not this election (although North Carolina is a toss-up already), maybe not the next, but eventually.

The big mistake John Kerry made was abandoning part of the country. Obama didn't make the same mistake, and if we want the Democratic Party to thrive, we can't abandon anything.

[Thinkingabout]

13. The Charleston Church shooting is still very fresh in our minds, the Mother's hearts

still ache for their children, they are sending a message, they are out voting to voice their opinion. When there is talk about millions of people changing the minds of Congressional members, the lack of progress on gun violence issues needs to be heard, there are millions calling for action.

Thanks for the campaign workers and lots of thanks to those who voted in SC.

[Lucinda]

17. +1 If we don't stand up against it now

we are failing the children of this country. The Mother's bring a power to the message that is beyond measure, and I am thankful that they are standing up. I'm not sure I would have the strength...

[Thinkingabout]

19. I agree, I don't know if I could do this either, nor do I think I could have stood with the families

from Charleston and forgiven as well as they did. What heroes.

[Lucinda]

20. Truly faith in action, and the power of love over hate.

Remarkable people, and we have to deal with fellow posters calling citizens of that state weak or without wisdom.
It makes me sad, and weary to be back here sometimes.

[Thinkingabout]

21. Sad indeed. I do not know their loss, I do not know their pain but they are very strong.

[Lucinda]

22. My brother-in-law was murdered. Many years ago now, but his children

are having children without him here to share their joy, all due to a man with a gun. My sister still hasn't fully recovered. It's long past time to do something.

[Gothmog]

14. I was shocked by that thread

[Lucinda]

18. I wish I was

I still do get shocked here occasionally, but mostly, I'm just deeply saddened.

[Starry Messenger]

16. Ignoring people of color is not revolutionary. Full stop.

[Ellen Forradalom]

31. +1

[Stand and Fight]

32. +100

[kjones]

23. Pretty much. The AA voters they can't move to the back of the Bern bus, they want to throw under it.

Their negativity and tone deafness is corrosive, and I hope they bern out
before it starts effecting the party as a whole. Sorry to the nice people
in that camp who really believe in Bernie, but this whole thing has gone
sour pretty quick. I certainly don't intend to associate, personally or
through party, with people who espouse that sort of dismissive attitude.

[BlueCaliDem]

24. I donated an extra $50 on top of the monthly $25 to Hillary and just this morning, donated

$30 to the DCCC because of an e-mail from President Obama (I'm certain they can't use him if he didn't approve).

I will keep donating to Hillary Clinton until my $2700 limit, and I will continue to give what I can to the DCCC in light of 2020 when we have our next census and we have the opportunity to take back the House.

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. We've been called "low information voters" and "slaves" all in the span of 24 hours.

This lets me know exactly what they think of us, and it confirms for me that I, and my community, made the right choice. Just a few scant days ago, they were REEEAAAALLLLYYYY concerned about black lives, and now they're calling us names & hatin'. What could've possibly happened in the interim?

[Treant]

28. There are very few times in my life

that I need to apologize for somebody else's actions. This is one of those times.

I'm sorry they made you feel bad, and I hope it gets better around here soon.

[Tarheel_Dem]

33. Thank you, but it's certainly not your fault. As for the current climate, I think as soon as...

many of the most troublesome posters accept that BS cannot win this party's primary, they'll be off to wherever they came from. Once the GE is underway, I don't think Skinner will allow this climate to continue.

[Treant]

34. Let's hope not!

[Iliyah]

26. And when he looses the Northern AAs, will he say . . .

Western AAs are the ticket?

[MSMITH33156]

27. Gonna be hilarious when

they throw Bernie Sanders under the bus for endorsing Hillary and campaigning for her.

[Treant]

29. Sooner than that!

When the loss becomes undeniable, the message will be declared pure but the messenger goes straight under the bus for suddenly "noticed" and magnified flaws.

[NurseJackie]

35. I'll bet it survived an alert too. Sad ... Very sad.