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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:33 PM Feb 2016

This BS group post deserves more attention, so I'll just leave it here...

I have not said a critical word of the Sanders campaign thus far

But the NV and SC strategies have me a little baffled coming off of essentially two "victories"..


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280128173

She asks some legitimate questions. (Being persona non grata, I can't post over there.)

I DID rec it, though, and think it should be on the Greatest page.
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This BS group post deserves more attention, so I'll just leave it here... (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 OP
Not sure why you have posted this here. nt DURHAM D Feb 2016 #1
Have you read her queries? Very discerning, IMHO. Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #3
Post #21 is relatively strange jmowreader Feb 2016 #2
Wishing doesn't make it true... Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #4
Hopefully, she's a forerunner .... JohnnyLib2 Feb 2016 #5
She'll probably be banned from her own group! Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #6
That has happened to several people, iirc. Hekate Feb 2016 #7
You know things are dire when they begin eating their own. Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #11
With ketchup Hekate Feb 2016 #14
Donner, party of 50...49...48... Treant Feb 2016 #15
It's one of the stages Rose Siding Feb 2016 #8
I don't do GDP, but they think Tad Devine was involved with PBO's campaign? That would probably... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #13
Was he involved with Gore? lolly Feb 2016 #22
Yep. Tad was senior strategist on the Gore/LIEberman Campaign. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #24
Well, then, history is repeating itself lolly Feb 2016 #25
It sure is! BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #26
I think she's coming to the realization MSMITH33156 Feb 2016 #9
"Bernie isn't playing to win"...seemed to be the concensus among the pundits this evening. Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #10
One size fits all does not work with the American electorate. fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #12
So much enthusiasm, so few clues 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #16
But, but, he's on an Obama-2008 trajectory, doncha know? Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #17
I trashed GDP ages ago Coolest Ranger Feb 2016 #18
I only dare stick my head above the parapet on rare occasions Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #19
It's not you Coolest Ranger Feb 2016 #20
His two "victories" were in predominantly (95%) white states. Welcome to America, Bernie. George II Feb 2016 #21
Can't post there, either. :-( But it's okay. With most supporters there, it appears reality is BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #23
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. Have you read her queries? Very discerning, IMHO.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

She is a sincere Sanders supporter, but is beginning to question his campaign strategy.
Very interesting.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
2. Post #21 is relatively strange
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:37 PM
Feb 2016

"Did we not say before Nevada that if we won there we could win in SC?"

Bernie lost NV by six points.

JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
5. Hopefully, she's a forerunner ....
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:44 PM
Feb 2016

of others able to see the reality of the situation. Sadly, she'll probably be run off the board.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
8. It's one of the stages
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:52 PM
Feb 2016

and will go back and forth. At least they're willing to talk about "Bernie's problem" in broad terms.

Weird they think Devine was involved in Pres O's election. He wasn't nor was the consulting firm he's with.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,241 posts)
13. I don't do GDP, but they think Tad Devine was involved with PBO's campaign? That would probably...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:10 AM
Feb 2016

come as news to PBO, who actually won his election. The same can't be said for Dukakis, Mondale, Gore(?) or Kerry. Devine has been on a serious losing streak for quite some time.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
22. Was he involved with Gore?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:23 PM
Feb 2016

That would certainly explain the disastrous decision to distance Al Gore from Bill Clinton.

Sorry, that's one of my hobby horses. It drove me nuts at the time, and whenever I think about Gore's campaign acting as if Clinton was a deeply unpopular president who would drag the Democrats down, I still get miffed.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
24. Yep. Tad was senior strategist on the Gore/LIEberman Campaign.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:41 PM
Feb 2016

Clearly, he doesn't know what he's doing. Bad move by the Sanders Campaign to hire him. I guess there was no one else?

lolly

(3,248 posts)
25. Well, then, history is repeating itself
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

If he thinks bashing Obama and suggesting he would be better at race relations is going to help Sanders, he really hasn't learned a thing, has he?

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
26. It sure is!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:55 PM
Feb 2016

I believe that most Blacks have heard that and showed what they thought of that last night. And I'm certain his attempt at calling for a primary challenger of President Obama hasn't won him any friends, either - except, maybe, those who don't think it's a big deal.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
9. I think she's coming to the realization
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:53 PM
Feb 2016

that Bernie isn't playing to win, and it's frustrating her. They continue to ignore it, but winning states doesn't matter, delegates do. And she is simply raising questions about how he can win if he abandons states resulting in blowouts like this.

Of course, the Bernie fans will say everything is going to plan, but if you lose by these margins, and barely win the states you do win, then you're not winning anything, and the writing is on the wall.

Bernie's strategy is a give up strategy, and she realized it.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
12. One size fits all does not work with the American electorate.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:00 AM
Feb 2016

Democrats are a minority. Republicans are a minority. Independents are a minority. You have to go broad to win the Presidency. And all three intermingle positions.

Bernie cleaved his minority even further. What's left is a very disappointed subset of registered Democrats. I don't believe he has the ability to go broad. He would have to alter his message he has been honing for decades.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
16. So much enthusiasm, so few clues
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:48 AM
Feb 2016

They seem to think Bernie's problem is that he isn't having enough big rallies.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
19. I only dare stick my head above the parapet on rare occasions
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:10 AM
Feb 2016

and have to watch my tongue very closely.

I don't like trashing and never have. For me, it's also important to know what the competition is up to.

But, I perfectly understand your move to decrease the agro and control your BP.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
20. It's not you
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:15 AM
Feb 2016

but I have learned to be very careful in what I write and post here because of the purging of not only black members like myself but Hillary supporters.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
23. Can't post there, either. :-( But it's okay. With most supporters there, it appears reality is
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:39 PM
Feb 2016

beginning to set in, and that's a good thing.

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