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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:59 PM Feb 2016

And a little more fuel for the fire... (HRC Group)

Cross-posted text from GDP:

Big ol' wall of text coming. Thanks NBC!

Sanders' advertising strategy looks more like a path to getting a good convention speaking slot than beating Hillary Clinton for the nomination

Similarly, Bernie Sanders right now is advertising in the Super Tuesday states where he's favored (Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma). The problem with that: When you add those four states with Vermont, they contain 288 delegates up for grabs on Super Tuesday, while the other states (Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia) have 571 delegates, including 222 for Texas alone. So that looks like a strategy to maximize delegates to have a good speaking role at a convention, but it doesn't look like a strategy to beat Hillary Clinton. When asked about this yesterday on MTP Daily, Sanders strategist Tad Devine said, "If you wanted to do media campaigns in all of those states, you'd probably have to spend $50 million... Different campaigns have different strategies. Our strategy in the next week is to win as many delegates as we can... We think this nomination process is going to go on for a long time, all of the way through California." But as the Cook Political Report's David Wasserman projects, Clinton might emerge with about a 75-delegate lead over after Sanders in the South Carolina and March 1 contests. And when you add the superdelegates to the total, that means Sanders would need to win 58% of the remaining delegates to break even -- which is almost impossible under a proportional allocation system. "In short, it could very quickly become mathematically implausible for Sanders to come back from a large delegate deficit," Wasserman writes.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-are-rubio-sanders-playing-win-n524806

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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Every state is important, Hillary is running a fifty state plus territories campaign,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

the more delegates the better.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
3. Wait a minute. I thought BS wasn't concerned about money.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
Feb 2016

I thought his was a grassroots revolution that didn't need $50 million ad buys.

I must be mistaken.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
4. I think it largely has to do with his cash on hand being depleted
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

It was estimated after Nevada that Hillary has 35 million on hand versus only 15 million for Bernie.

I really think one of the untold stories this election is that Bernie's campaign screwed up royally with going all-in in Nevada. It didn't work out, so they're pretty much giving up states through March 15 as a result.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. True, he's got a lot of online small donations pledged, but they're probably recurring at....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:55 PM
Feb 2016

....$27 each or less a month.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
5. Sanders is learning why politicians have to accept campaign donations in order to compete nationally
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

Unless your Trump and you can self-finance, you need contributions from donors in order to win. He can't rely on college students in small states to carry him to nomination, let alone the presidency.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
6. I wonder if Bernie himself thought he would get this far
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:28 PM
Feb 2016

when he first entered the race.

I do wonder what his motivation was, and whether he really thought he had a shot, or whether he just thought he'd like to get a more explicitly progressive conversation going.

I like Bernie. I don't, however, like his campaign, the aggression of many of his supporters, the smearing of Hillary coming from his general direction, the empty promises that will surely disappoint his supporters (especially the younger ones), or the self-righteousness that one picks up from time to time. But I still like him - he reminds me of several people that I know, old wild-haired hippie types with wonderful progressive values and good hearts. He looks like someone can sip some weird herbal tea with.

But I wonder what he really thought when he entered this race, at this late stage of his life.

I do hope, in the likely event that Hillary is the nominee, that he and she will reconcile in the way that she and Obama did, and that he will get not only a good speaking slot, but also some kind of voice in her administration.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
10. +1 and most specifically for this:
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

"I like Bernie. I don't, however, like his campaign, the aggression of many of his supporters, the smearing of Hillary coming from his general direction, the empty promises that will surely disappoint his supporters (especially the younger ones), or the self-righteousness that one picks up from time to time. But I still like him - he reminds me of several people that I know, old wild-haired hippie types with wonderful progressive values and good hearts..."

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. He might get a good speaking spot if he withdraws next Wednesday. If not, he shouldn't even....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:53 PM
Feb 2016

....be allowed on the floor of the convention. Have him sit in the gallery.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
18. Cripe sake we know what he going to say...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:59 AM
Feb 2016

his young supporters repeat it line by line, over and over.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
9. I've been thinking for a while now, they know they aren't going to win. I also think it's why
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

they never bothered to raise funds for downticket Dems. They knew they weren't going to need those funds for the GE.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
13. And candidates get to keep their war chests.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

I remember being shocked to learn that during my first inner circle state senate campaign job.

Cha

(297,318 posts)
11. Ugh.. he's disingenuously tearing Hillary down... be nice if he would stick to facts.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:14 PM
Feb 2016

Still, Hillary can handle him.. she's had a lot of practice.

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