Hillary Clinton
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Article in Huff today:
You have been a lifelong champion of human equality. You have kept economic inequality, an issue I care very deeply about, at the forefront of an election cycle that might otherwise have been dominated by the antics of a reality TV clown.
On foreign policy, the issue that is generally considered your greatest weakness, I believe that you have consistently shown yourself to be responsible, inquisitive and level-headed. And you and Secretary Clinton have run campaigns which, a few stumbles aside, stand in such stark contrast to the GOP field that it is difficult to fathom how anyone could possibly consider any of them over either of you.
Senator Sanders, I like you. I admire you. Most of the time, I wish that we had 99 more senators just like you.
And I would, wouldn't I? I'm on the younger end of the likely voter spectrum. I'm male. I'm white. I'm liberal as hell. I'm the kind of voter that you should have a lock on.
But Senator, we have a problem, and it's a big one. When it comes to the specifics surrounding the core issue of your campaign, you have too often come across as either disingenuous or strangely removed from current reality.
The red flags have become too frequent to ignore. ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-womack/dear-bernie-red-flags-frequent_b_9289954.html
ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)Of course it will. The Treasury Department has been legally required to do that since the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010. The institutions are, on top of that, already subjected to stress tests, and when they fail, there are fairly serious consequences. The Department's annual report is available right here. You can find a list of these institutions on Wikipedia, for crying out loud. The Financial Stability Board also maintains a global list, which you can find right here, should you find that helpful.
BainsBane
(53,041 posts)And other proposals he's suggested that are already law, such as on guns? How can that be when he's in the Senate?
ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)He knows.
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)SunSeeker
(51,649 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)frequent to ignore.
Fact checkin' the bern.. is that even allowed?1
Mahalo Sunshine~
mentioning Hillary's thousands of dollars in campaign donations is allowed isn't it? we can mention how she was for private prisons before she was against them, correct? We do get to mention how she openly supported TPP as the "gold standard of trade" upwards of fifty times? I also would like to mention the flip flop on keystone, and her terrible bankruptcy bill she voted for, certainly you don't mind me mentioning the red flags that make Bernie supporters not so interested in Hillary, certainly reciprocity is A OK. maybe we can mention how she was on the board of Wal-Mart for all those years. can we mention how she starts negotiating from the bottom. I have no problem with the truth, can we see the transcripts? Let's get it all out in the open, certainly you guys are for this, correct?
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)This is the Hillary Forum, not a re-education camp.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)I wasn't trying to re-educate, it seems that avoidance of issues causes a reason to merely educate. Hope all is well.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Just go elsewhere. Seriously, all you are doing is reinforcing the negative impression of Bernie supporters.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Groups are not forums. You have the rest of the board to spout your opinions. You are not welcome here.
Cha
(297,503 posts)it's not looking good.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)That, Senator, is a dangerous and destructive game. Does your campaign honestly wonder why it has become synonymous with nasty online invective?
If you mention the Bernie Bros online, fifty people fitting the profile pop up with abusive comments informing you that they don't exist. On the eve of the Nevada caucus, one of your supporters attempted to place an obituary for Secretary Clinton in the Las Vegas Sun-Journal. Don't you think this all might have a little something to do with your "me against the corrupt establishment" bluster?
This needs to be in GD:primaries!!
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)there would be a full-on assault, fully demonstrating the premise.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)At this point I hope that this nomination process runs its course quickly. Bernie does not have a significant chance to get the nomination anymore, and the longer he stays in and whips his supporters into a frenzy, the more damage he is doing to Hillary. I'm all for democracy, but it's become clear that a great deal of the Bernie campaign is built on serious distortions regarding Hillary and her record. As such, people who might otherwise vote for Hillary in the GE, develop such a distorted, monstrous image of her that it becomes impossible for them. As a progressive, this worries me. So I hope this primary season runs it course quickly, so that we can get on to the business of kicking the Republicans' butts.
LisaM
(27,821 posts)While I don't dislike Bernie Sanders, I have to wonder at the vitriol of some of the supporters he's attracting. It's hard to square the two. My anti-favorite meme is that you somehow show you're a feminist by NOT voting for a woman or thinking it's about time for a woman president?
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)very informative.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)he's playing for.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)msongs
(67,433 posts)jehop61
(1,735 posts)Lots of information and examples to use when refuting the Bernie Bros.
pandr32
(11,602 posts)"...none of this holds a candle to the bizarre narrative you have consistently pushed around Glass-Steagall, your primary point of distinction from Secretary Clinton on finance. You have repeatedly insinuated, implied and said flat-out that the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which you tend to call a repeal of Glass-Steagall, caused the financial crisis.
Senator Sanders, that simply isn't true."
"When asked to identify a law that actually contributed to the financial crisis, experts are more likely to point to the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000...Senator Sanders, you voted in favor of that law."
I love how this article basically charges Sanders with knowingly pushing a deceptive narrative on low-information voters who were looking for somewhere to place the blame for the problems we face in order to promote his own candicacy.
cprise
(8,445 posts)The above opinion is well-supported, and its a fact that lending banks now heavily hedge against the riskier loans (to lower-income people and small business), meaning they are betting against the success of these people and in fact creating funds that seek to create the conditions for their failure.
I am sorry, but the establishment has jumped the shark ever-so-much and is still having trouble realizing just how far they've gone.
Now I return you to the nonsensical hand-waving over the red tide.
pandr32
(11,602 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)It is a bitter irony, then, that Paul Krugman, Barney Frank, Gary Gensler, Jared Bernstein and Felicia Wong and Mike Konczal of the Roosevelt Institute all agree that Clinton's plans to rein in Wall Street have more teeth than yours.
An angry mob turns on more than just the nominee
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I hope it is read by many.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)livetohike
(22,157 posts)I read on DU that he is well-liked. Really? He has few legislative accomplishments and few endorsements from his colleagues. That should tell you something about his effectiveness. He probably points and wags his finger at everyone he disagrees with. I don't buy that his angry demeanor is "charming". Not to me. I don't need yelled at.
handmade34
(22,757 posts)I want Bernie Sanders to remain my senator and yes, he is a good person with accomplishments and I like him. There is a reason most people like him while at the same time realize Hillary is the best candidate for President right now...
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)cprise
(8,445 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)That is the only way to affect real change for the good of the 99%.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Progressive Cause, he now hurting the Democratic Party.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Your admittance of hurting not only the progressive cause but democrats speaks volumes. It states exactly what Bernie Sanders supporters have been saying all along, the democrats are not progressive, especially Hillary. Your admittance was a big first step in admitting the problem with going corporate dem. We should be able to make huge strides from such recognition of the problem.
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)Racist, misogynist, rude assholes.
Go away. There are several circle-jerk forums for your type.
I used to like the man - now not so much.
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)Sanders didn't make them angry. What Reagan did the the country and the complacency of Democrats to undo the damage is what makes them angry.
How do we fix that?
wysi
(1,512 posts)... thanks for your input. See you later!
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)Later is apparently now.
Cha
(297,503 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)for no reason.
He's just not qualified to be president.
Hillary has the experience, the knowledge, and the tenacity to be POTUS.
From the OP..
Senator, you are forming a mob of angry, misinformed people and then turning it on the likely Democratic nominee. That, Senator, is a dangerous and destructive game. Does your campaign honestly wonder why it has become synonymous with nasty online invective? If you mention the Bernie Bros online, fifty people fitting the profile pop up with abusive comments informing you that they don't exist. On the eve of the Nevada caucus, one of your supporters attempted to place an obituary for Secretary Clinton in the Las Vegas Sun-Journal. Don't you think this all might have a little something to do with your "me against the corrupt establishment" bluster?
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)They've got most of the site, but they have to bully their way into the Hillary Forum.
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)"Sometimes, Senator, you really live up to your initials."
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)You have to read this. In fact copy and paste the URL on every post you make outside this group too. And twice for me 'cause I stick close
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Hekate
(90,771 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Excellent read!
Number23
(24,544 posts)God DAMN I need a fucking smoke after reading that!! Good LORD! TRUEST FUCKING WORDS I've read in MONTHS!!!!!
I didn't even mean to come in here! I was just passing through and this just about knocked me out.
Well done!! Amen! DAMN that was a hell of a read.
Cha
(297,503 posts)Perfectly stated..