Are you watching Bernie on MSNBS?

[fun n serious]

He is losing his cool. Not very presidential. He said he will not attack but will respond to attack. In the same breath he insinuated in a accusatory way that Hilary was "buying the election." I also noticed when the policy questions starting getting harder he repeated the same, " Free healthcare and education for all Americans."

[comradebillyboy]

1. I think Bernie is getting tired and cranky

The campaign is wearing him down both physically and mentally. The mask is beginning to slip and the humorless, self-righteous scold comes through more and more.

[bravenak]

2. Me too

He YELLED at that woman at the black forum. YELLED.

[Cha]

6. Did she have the temerity to disagree?

[bravenak]

13. Um, yeah!!!

https://m.

He gets mad, you can see. She said she wanted to talk reparations, he was like no, heres what were gonna talk about. Then he started getting louder into his stump speech, it was weird.

[Cha]

19. Oh it was the NOC in Minneapolis while Hillary was in Denmark, SC..

He said "Black" 51 times! I cannot imagine him as POTUS.. not after President Obama.. no, uh uh!

His supporters were accusing Hillary of abandoning the AA community because she was in Bamberg County doing this..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110747683

Thank you for the vid, brave~

[BlueMTexpat]

28. It is a very difficult thing to imagine

ANYONE as POTUS after Prez O. He has certainly done the office proud.

After W, our standing everywhere in the world was so abysmal, I really was not hopeful that we would ever regain our credibility. But Prez O managed that, in part by his very presence, but also with the able assistance of SoS Hillary Clinton - and also SoS Kerry. Domestically, he managed major accomplishments in spite of an obdurate, obstinate and constantly obstructionist Republican opposition.

Like you, I just cannot see Bernie as Presidential caliber. Certainly NOT after Prez O. But I can see Hillary rising to that level and putting her own unique stamp on the office in a way that will at least attempt to make the world a better place for us all.

[Cha]

35. I can totally imagine Hillary though.. those two are brilliant leaders and friends.. actually

supporting each other in politics.. a beautiful thing!

Another one of Hillary's friends.. The esteemed John Lewis..

Hillary Clinton Is On Her Game in Nevada. John Lewis and Other Supporters Make the Case



MrWendelhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/110748426

BlueMTex

[bravenak]

32. I haven't quite digested the whole thing yet.

It was so strange

[Control-Z]

7. I think I missed that.

Is this a new thing? Do you have a link?

[bravenak]

8. I have to find it it was so bad.

[Control-Z]

10. Thanks.

I can't believe I'm not seeing it on the news.

[radical noodle]

12. I missed it too

I hope you can find it.

[bravenak]

14. I did, I just posted it

[bravenak]

11. Here:

https://m.

[radical noodle]

17. She asks him to address black people and reparations specifically

and he comes back by talking about poor white communities. What has he actually done in the last 30 years or so WITH AAs and FOR them? This is why John Lewis said he never saw him.

[bravenak]

20. Yep. He told her that he was gonna talk about what HE was gonna talk about.

He is kinda rude.

[fun n serious]

23. Thank you! nt

[bravenak]

26. No prob.

[kjones]

29. Omg haha, at about 1:40, after Sanders talks about poor whites, the eyeroll/snicker next to him!

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie...

[bravenak]

31. I swear he only has one setting

[riversedge]

33. This was a Friday night-missed the news cycle so Bernie mostly got a pass

[bravenak]

34. He sure did. But I noticed.

[Cha]

39. ..

[fun n serious]

25. Today on MSNBC.

Let me look for a link.

[fun n serious]

21. I didn't see that.

Is there somewhere I can find it online?

[stopbush]

4. I heard one of Sanders' campaign people over the weekend say they can't get him

to slow down and take a break.

Obviously, they are aware of the problem and need to address it somehow.

[Fla Dem]

45. You damn kids....Get off my lawn!

[SunSeeker]

3. LOL. Yeah, he's not slinging mud, he's just accusing her of being bought.

[Cha]

5. Said it on fox, too. spreading it around. So desperate.

[livetohike]

9. His anger is such a turn off. Just a matter of time before he

swears or walks off the set. He isn't used to being grilled.

[fun n serious]

22. Yes. I'm worried...

If he gets the nomination Trump will do a number on him.

[GusBob]

15. He always has

The grouchy slouchy thing going on.

It looks like it would kill him to smile or laugh

[fleabiscuit]

16. Johnny one-note losing his cool factor. eom

[cosmicone]

18. Bernie is a one trick unicorn n/t

[fun n serious]

24. Oh! That was good! nt

[otohara]

27. Word

perfection

[kjones]

30. Zing! nt

[jsmirman]

36. "I will just say... Free Healthcare... Free Education...

for ALL Americans!"

It's incredible how didactic his delivery is. Like we're stupid and we just need to hear him pronounce a series of magic words.

I wish I could get everyone to agree with me by just repeating my fondest wishes with no obligation to provide an actual plan for how it's going to happen.

[fun n serious]

40. It worked for Bush.

Repeat Repeat repeat lies. Scary times we live in. I think we need to rally our senior citizens to come out and vote. Get everyone we can. Everyone should vote.

[72DejaVu]

37. Just what America needs

another angry old white man.

[Cha]

38. That's bull.. BS has been out attacking Hillary all on his own. He went on foxscrews for gripe

sake..

Please spare your protestations, bern.

[fun n serious]

41. I think I was watching Fox news. I can tell the difference anymore.. nt

It may not have been MSNBC where I saw it, I was flipping channels. I like to listen to both sides and flip channels back and forth. Dishonestly at MSNBC is getting just as bad as Fox.

[Hekate]

42. Bernie has spent his life being a scold and a gadfly, not bringing people into consensus. It shows.

He yells at people, he wags his finger at them. He KNOWS what's right by God and don't you tell him otherwise! And always being right, he really can't stand to be told he's wrong or that there might be another way of looking at things.

Like Trump, Sanders speaks to people's anger, and there is a lot of anger out there. I get that. Trump, being a showman and not a politician, is all over the place with the hot buttons, and they are simple to grasp. Bernie, being a politician and also by nature a preacher, has THE answer, the ONE answer, and it's simple to grasp.

The trouble with Bernie is that single lens is not the only way of looking at the world. My Bernie-lovin' husband and I talked about this the other night. The economic theory that starts with Marx* simply does not cover every concern. (Nor does any rigid economic theory, but that's another story.) Women as a group have needs different from men; African Americans as a group have a different history from white Americans; and the list goes on. There is no one single answer.

People are not all one thing, in reality. And human-nature reality does not cooperate with ideology over the long haul, as ideologically-based revolutions, rigid religions, and utopian communities have proven over and over again.

*Marx: This is not a slur -- my husband has read Marx.

[peggysue2]

43. Cracks in the Veneer

Yes, Saint Bernard's campaign is beginning to crackle on the surface. The man does not take criticism well and his thin-skinned reaction is showing. I agree that there is some similarity between the dispositions of Trump to Sanders. Both are channeling anger in the population. Which is real and has been brewing for the last 15, if not 30 years. Both make promises without specifics and resort to shorthand memes. On close examination, things begin to fall apart and what is promised is more akin to Kingship than the reality of presidential power.

I read a lawyerly quote yesterday, something to the effect: if you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither, pound the table.

Pounding the table is what Sanders and Trump do. It's entertaining, some say inspiring. But in the end, the theatrics are empty and hollow, ultimately disappointing.

I like Sanders and I think income inequality is an important issue. But it's not the only issue and does not address every challenge that 2016 America or the future is facing. It's time to put away childish things.

HILLARY 2016
"I am not a one issue candidate . . ."

[fun n serious]

44. Very well said, Peggysue. nt