Clinton: "Every progressive economist who has analysed that says the numbers don't add up..

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Jesse Lehrich ?@JesseLehrich
SHOT: Left-Leaning Economists Question Cost of @BernieSanders Plans http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/us/politics/left-leaning-economists-question-cost-of-bernie-sanderss-plans.html …
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Left-Leaning Economists Question Cost of Bernie Sanders’s Plans

By JACKIE CALMESFEB. 15, 2016

WASHINGTON — With his expansive plans to increase the size and role of government, Senator Bernie Sanders has provoked a debate not only with his Democratic rival for president, Hillary Clinton, but also with liberal-leaning economists who share his goals but question his numbers and political realism.

The reviews of some of these economists, especially on Mr. Sanders’s health care plans, suggest that Mrs. Clinton could have been too conservative in their debate last week when she said his agenda in total would increase the size of the federal government by 40 percent. That level would surpass any government expansion since the buildup in World War II.

The increase could exceed 50 percent, some experts suggest, based on an analysis by a respected health economist that Mr. Sanders’s single-payer health plan could cost twice what the senator, who represents Vermont, asserts, and on critics’ belief that his economic assumptions are overly optimistic.

His campaign strongly contests both critiques, defending its numbers and attacking prominent critics as Clinton sympathizers and industry consultants.


MOre~http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/us/politics/left-leaning-economists-question-cost-of-bernie-sanderss-plans.html?_r=0

Yeah yeah.. we know all about it bern.. "#soestablishment"

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1. First one to up vote.

Good article Cha! She's getting 7 votes from our family.

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4. Great to hear, ffr!

Thank you!

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3. K&R!

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6. Hillary calling out bernie and she's right!

Tarheel!

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5. k/r

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19. Gracias Dawson!

[Tommy2Tone]

7. I have heard no one that can make his numbers work

K and R

[jmowreader]

11. ESPECIALLY Bernie Sanders!

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25. Right.

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24. Mahalo, Tommy!

[fleabiscuit]

8. K&R When did reality checks become political for Pete's sake? eom

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23. Really.. what the hell universe is this?

[sheshe2]

9. K&R!

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10. Hillary: ".. this is about people's lives and we should level with the American people.."

Thank you, she~

I just read that tad devine said Hillary couldn't be trusted to choose the next SCOTUS.. 'cause "wall street" "establishment" "oligarch" "wall street" ad nauseam

[Firebrand Gary]

12. Big kicked and recommended!

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20. Mahalo Gary!

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13. K & R

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21. Gracias SunSeeker!

[brett_jv]

14. No journalist who's not a shill would utter such obvious tripe as this

"his agenda in total would increase the size of the federal government by 40 percent. "

LOOK OUT! Her being CONSERVATIVE ... Her have EXPERTS! BUT Him HAVE AGENDA! HIM increasing SIZE of Government, making BIGGEST IN FOREVER! Also, him ATTACKING! Him MEAN SOCIALIST!

Be afraid! Argle-Bargle, and Ooga-Booga!

What a bunch of friggin' rot. Oh, and ... PFFFT!!!

Reading obvious and crappy propaganda like this ... will seriously make you stupider.

[Cha]

15. Awwwww.. what's the matter? Can't stand the reality based community calling out BS

on his plans where "the numbers don't add up"?

Hillary has real plans where the numbers do add up.. ya'll are just going to have to deal

[Lordquinton]

16. "Expandinf the government"

That's right wing language, they're the ones terrified of the federal government being "big" which is of course a nebulous, undefined term that's used at, well, pretty much any action they don't like.

To see it getting any traction among progressives is a sad day indeed.

[Cha]

18. the important thing is the Economists on the left are seeing right through BS's plans..

"Alluding to one progressive analyst’s criticism of the Sanders agenda as “puppies and rainbows,” Mr. Goolsbee said that after his and others’ further study, “they’ve evolved into magic flying puppies with winning Lotto tickets tied to their collars.”

[Gothmog]

26. Krugman- Sanders health plan looks a little bit like a standard Republican tax-cut plan

I trust Prof. Krugman on this http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/19/weakened-at-bernies/?_r=0

On health care: leave on one side the virtual impossibility of achieving single-payer. Beyond the politics, the Sanders “plan” isn’t just lacking in detail; as Ezra Klein notes, it both promises more comprehensive coverage than Medicare or for that matter single-payer systems in other countries, and assumes huge cost savings that are at best unlikely given that kind of generosity. This lets Sanders claim that he could make it work with much lower middle-class taxes than would probably be needed in practice.

To be harsh but accurate: the Sanders health plan looks a little bit like a standard Republican tax-cut plan, which relies on fantasies about huge supply-side effects to make the numbers supposedly add up. Only a little bit: after all, this is a plan seeking to provide health care, not lavish windfalls on the rich — and single-payer really does save money, whereas there’s no evidence that tax cuts deliver growth. Still, it’s not the kind of brave truth-telling the Sanders campaign pitch might have led you to expect.

Again, as noted by Prof. Krugman this plan does not add up.

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27. Thank you, Gothmog!