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Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:18 AM Feb 2016

Is The Nevada Poll That Has Sanders And Clinton Tied Also A Push Poll?

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/02/nevada-poll-has-sanders-and-clinton-tied

I took a day off of DU for a sanity break. I did want to address the big Clinton v. Sanders tie poll, however. Folks, this poll is as accurate as my golf swing (I have to turn 90 degrees to correct my slice).

My advice is to worry not about this ridiculous poll and realize that Clinton will win big next weekend. Then SC....

Then...March.

Then....GD-P goes nuclear.


A Washington Free Beacon/TargetPoint Consulting poll released Friday shows between Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sander (I-VT) in Nevada. It's the first poll conducted in the state this year.

The poll showed support for Clinton and Sanders tied at 45 percent of respondents.

This is, to put it mildly, an outlier:

In December, a Gravis Marketing survey showed Clinton up by 23 percent.

Should we believe this poll? It's from the conservative Washington Free Beacon. The pollster is TargetPoint Consulting, a GOP linked firm that's provided microtargeting data to the Republican National Committee, Bush Cheney '04, and Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign. Nate Silver has said that, as a polling firm, it "has a pretty strong Republican lean." At one point in 2008, it published a poll showing John McCain beating Barack Obama in Colorado by 12 points, at a time when all other polls of the state showed Obama leading. (Obama ultimately won Colorado by 9 points.)
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Is The Nevada Poll That Has Sanders And Clinton Tied Also A Push Poll? (Original Post) Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 OP
It is a bogus poll ordered by republicans n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #1
Yes, it's a GOP push poll/ n/t OhZone Feb 2016 #2
I read the way they phrased the questions 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #3
The poll is probably bogus. Not saying the results are wrong, but if they are Lucky Luciano Feb 2016 #4
Yep, they want to influence our side of the election. pandr32 Feb 2016 #5
It'll backfire Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #7
No one else is polling in Nevada because it is impossible to do a good poll here Gothmog Feb 2016 #6
Polling organizations can have two purposes. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #8

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
3. I read the way they phrased the questions
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:25 AM
Feb 2016

It's along the lines of "Hillary has been exposed as the tool of Wall Street, while Bernie will enact every progressive dream. Who will you support?"

Lucky Luciano

(11,257 posts)
4. The poll is probably bogus. Not saying the results are wrong, but if they are
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:35 AM
Feb 2016

...right, it would be dumb luck of the pollsters.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
5. Yep, they want to influence our side of the election.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

They, really, really, really don't want Hillary Clinton to win! That in itself is the biggest, most revealing predictor of how effective Madame President would be, and how much of her agenda she would likely accomplish! It makes for a light bulb switching on in the brain kind of moment, at least it should.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
7. It'll backfire
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:37 PM
Feb 2016

The Clinton supporters in NV (majority) will now worry and come out in droves, whereas the Sanders supporters may feel a bit more complacent and not attend the caucuses.

Bad push poll move.

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
6. No one else is polling in Nevada because it is impossible to do a good poll here
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

This poll is really suspect

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. Polling organizations can have two purposes.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:29 PM
Feb 2016

One kind of poll is designed to see where the voters are.

Another kind is designed to influence the election.

I cringe when the media announces entrance and exit polls while people are still voting!

It's like announcing election results while half the state - in another time zone - is still voting (Florida, Florida, Florida)!

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