Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumSanders squandered his lead while Clinton shone at the latest debate
Much more.. It's a great analysis.. But, I can only do so many snips so you'll have to go to the linky!..http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/12/bernie-sanders-squandered-lead-hillary-clinton-democratic-debate
In what was easily her strongest debate performance in recent memory and arguably her strongest since the campaign began Hillary Clinton was calm, cool and collected at Thursday nights debate.
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It was as tone-deaf a line as any all night and, worse yet, it may have reminded Clinton of another line of attack shed prepared in advance. In an MSNBC interview earlier on Thursday, Sanders had criticized President Obamas failure to connect with Congress, saying in an interview with MSNBC, Theres a huge gap right now between Congress and the American people. ... What presidential leadership is about [is] closing that gap.
From a political analysts perspective, its a completely valid criticism but when youre running in a Democratic primary with an extremely popular Democratic president, it is, well, a weird move.
And Clinton didnt let him or the audience forget about that or other critiques of the president, pivoting near the end of evening to Sanders frequent criticism of Obama. I want to follow up on something having to do with leadership she said, because, you know, today Senator Sanders said that President Obama failed the presidential leadership test. And this is not the first time.
Then, without changing her even tone in the slightest, Clinton launched her most vicious attack on Sanders of the debate, running down a list of the times Sanders had called the president weak and a disappointment. She ended with, I dont think [Obama] gets the credit he deserves.
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The argument over Obamas legacy is one that Clintons campaign has been wanting to have with Sanders for some time, and Sanders set her up for an easy hit. Viewers at home watching the candidates on a split screen could see Sanders huffing and puffing as Clinton spoke, laughing angrily to himself and scribbling notes as she spoke. He clearly hadnt been expecting that line of attack, though he might well have anticipated it. When he finally did get time to respond, he told the woman whom hed earlier all but accused of accepting campaign donations in direct exchange for political favors that repeating his own words was a low blow, indignantly and with no cool whatsoever.
Much more.. It's a great analysis.. But, I can only do so many snips so you'll have to go to the linky!..
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/12/bernie-sanders-squandered-lead-hillary-clinton-democratic-debate
KMOD~http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5659
"Failure to connect with Congress".. when everyone knows that the repubs vowed on election night to obstruct anything proposed by the President. they were not only going to not help him.. they would hurt him by any means necessary.
President Obama got Obamacare passed in 2009 with him and Kucinich voting for it.. how is that not connecting? With not one vote from a repub.
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DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)thank you, DesertRat!
livetohike
(22,163 posts)stood up for him. There was one Democrat on that stage last night.
Cha
(297,655 posts)✔ ?@HillaryClinton
President Obama doesn't get the credit he deserves. His accomplishments shouldn't be up for debate at a #DemDebate.
5:49 PM - 11 Feb 2016
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Mahalo!
Key Word "Accomplishments" berni..
livetohike
(22,163 posts)Sanders is not a Democrat. I don't care what he calls himself these days.
Cha
(297,655 posts)to take the whining road.. nit picking because President Obama couldn't get the repubs to compromise.. and whatever other hogwash he's going on about.
But, berni could.
Uh huh!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)great admirers of each other and Hillary needing to defend the President @ a #demdebate from the other guy running.. fascinating.
"Sanders set her up for an easy hit. Viewers at home watching the candidates on a split screen could see Sanders huffing and puffing as Clinton spoke, laughing angrily to himself and scribbling notes as she spoke. He clearly hadnt been expecting that line of attack, though he might well have anticipated it. When he finally did get time to respond, he told the woman whom hed earlier all but accused of accepting campaign donations in direct exchange for political favors that repeating his own words was a low blow, indignantly and with no cool whatsoever."
Hillary Clinton
✔ ?@HillaryClinton
President Obama doesn't get the credit he deserves. His accomplishments shouldn't be up for debate at a #DemDebate.
5:49 PM - 11 Feb 2016
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http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/11/tweet-of-the-day-24/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=45919
Thank you!
Cha
(297,655 posts)And, from that campaign .. it makes perfect sense.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Hillary: I would expect the type of Obama-Bashing Sanders is doing from Republicans, not someone seeking D nomination. #DemDebate
5:46 PM - 11 Feb 2016
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http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/12/early-morning-chat/
And, she gets to say that without fear of getting a hide.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Oooooooooooohh! Bern!
katmille
(213 posts)that she didn't say "not a Democrat" BUT "not someone seeking the Democratic nomination."
She is just so cool!
And I loved her consistent, calm, presidential manner.
Go Hillary!!
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Not flailing around like some kind of lunatic.
Stuckinthebush
(10,847 posts)Love this:
The argument over Obamas legacy is one that Clintons campaign has been wanting to have with Sanders for some time, and Sanders set her up for an easy hit. Viewers at home watching the candidates on a split screen could see Sanders huffing and puffing as Clinton spoke, laughing angrily to himself and scribbling notes as she spoke.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Thank you, Stuck.. have a great day.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)All over the place, really. I think a president is going to need a poker face.
Cha
(297,655 posts)http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/12/early-morning-chat/
Sorry, just saw it and couldn't resist.
Thank you, Rose~
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)President Obama's "zen" aura even touches the tiniest hearts and the tiniest of souls.
Cha
(297,655 posts)BlueCali.. I felt like making an OP just for them! They're so freaking Adorable!
That's it.. it's President Obama's Zen aura touching his little heart and soul.. and he looks so damn cut in his little suit!
I just want to jump through time and cyberspace and kiss his little cheek.
thank you for the proper reaction!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Babies just LOVE President Obama, and it shows time and again. And I definitely share that sentiment with you - I would've loved to jump through time and cyberspace to just give that little darling a kiss on sweet cheek - - just before the Secret Service men drag my arse away, that is.
Cha
(297,655 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)over him by a head, at least!
Yep. President Obama loves babies - and the love is clearly mutual.
Mahalo for giving my first smile of the day - as always.
mcar
(42,372 posts)Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Obama can keep his shit together. I remember McCain looked like such a hot head at times back when he was running against Obama. I think a good leader can keep their emotions under control. We don't need a president that is going to fly off the handle and piss of some other world leader. One of the things that Hillary will probably have to work to convince people in the general election, if she gets there, is that she isn't going to be all emotional. There is of course a stereo type out there that women are too emotional to be good leaders. I think that is utter bull shit. People seem to over look the emotional guy. Yeah, it is OK for them. They are just passionate or fired up or upset. If a women is emotional... she's hormonal.. who knows what she's going to do next. Watch out!!!
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)What would that look like, beyond what we know of her already? What more would we expect of her to prove she's not "too emotional"?
I think this should do it
and of course
Beyond that screw 'em because they're trying to not be convinced.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)She stripped his tripes. It was a thing of beauty.
Cha
(297,655 posts)who have right now.
Mahalo!
GusBob
(7,286 posts)HOME RUN!!!!! HOLY COW FOLKS
Cha
(297,655 posts)Mahalo GusBob!
Or you bet, Cha!! lol
pandr32
(11,611 posts)Thank you!
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)and Hillary calls him on it very effectively. She really scored with the 'one issue candidate' critique as well. Nice find Cha.
Cha
(297,655 posts)sanders should apply his purity test to himself.
I know .. finally what we've all been saying and thinking about his "one issue" even though it's important.. it's not end all) gets highlighted front and center.
Mahalo
mcar
(42,372 posts)Thanks Cha!
Cha
(297,655 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)This description of the Bern is S0 spot on:
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he told the woman whom hed earlier all but accused of accepting campaign donations in direct exchange for political favors that repeating his own words was a low blow, indignantly and with no cool whatsoever.
NOT presidential AT ALL.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Thank you for highlighting that, Surya~
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)analysis is absolutely correct. Pres. Obama is hugely popular within the party, and especially with minority voters. Attacking him, just as viciously as the Republicans, turns my stomach.
Before the primaries began, I was simply indifferent to BS. I now find myself despising him.
William769
(55,147 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)It's so True.. I love it!
SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)Mahalo
brer cat
(24,605 posts)I have to add the great summation:
It was, instead, her opponent who made the mistake repeatedly this debate of being too quick to anger and allowing his feelings to affect his answers. Clinton, who can hardly express an emotion in public without her ability to lead being called into question, didnt have that luxury, and she didnt try to indulge in it.
I hope the Berniebros can feel that burn!
Cha
(297,655 posts)seem to make him angrier.
I like this blurb from the NYT..
Winners and losers from the 6th Democratic presidential debate
"Then there was Sanders's insistence that he would be better on race relations than Obama, a slip that you can be sure that the Clinton campaign will make sure African American voters hear about (and then hear about some more) in the coming days and weeks."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/winners-and-losers-from-the-6th-democratic-presidential-debate/ar-BBppnx8?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U142DHP
Fla Dem~http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=46222
Of course it wasn't a "slip" and he should be called on his arrogance.