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Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:57 AM Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton finally found her argument against Bernie Sanders

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/11/10976502/democratic-debate-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders

One of the problems Hillary Clinton has had in this primary so far is deciding what, exactly, her case against Bernie Sanders should be. She's had a difficult time of it because, as I've written, even her own supporters generally like Sanders quite a lot personally.

As a result, she's been throwing a bunch of things against the wall to see what will stick. Sometimes she says Sanders is too left-wing, like on his health-care views. Sometimes she says he's not left-wing enough, like on gun control and immigration. Sometimes she says she essentially agrees with him but that her plans for achieving their shared goals are more realistic. And lately she's been arguing, rather unconvincingly, that the problem with Sanders is that he's insufficiently supportive of Barack Obama.

But a campaign needs to define its opponent — to tell a simple story about why someone shouldn't vote for him or her. And together, all these arguments from Clinton end up sounding like a muddle. They don't paint one clear picture of Sanders — indeed, they often contradict each other. Is he too liberal, not liberal enough, or just as liberal as Clinton?

That's why, after a two hour debate where Clinton flitted back and forth between all the criticisms listed above, I was surprised to hear that in her closing statement she finally delivered a clear, easy-to-understand explanation for why Democratic primary voters shouldn't support Sanders. Here it is:

"We agree that we've got to get unaccountable money out of politics. We agree that Wall Street should never be allowed to wreck Main Street again. But here's the point I want to make tonight. I am not a single issue candidate, and I do not believe we live in a single issue country.

I think that a lot of what we have to overcome to break down the barriers that are holding people back, whether it's poison in the water of the children of Flint, or whether it's the poor miners who are being left out and left behind in coal country, or whether it is any other American today who feels somehow put down and oppressed by racism, by sexism, by discrimination against the LGBT community, against the kind of efforts that need to be made to root out all of these barriers, that is what I want to take on.

And here in Wisconsin I want to reiterate, we've got to stand up for unions and working people who have been at the core of the American middle class and who are being attacked by ideologues, by demagogues. Yes, does Wall Street and big financial interests along with drug companies, insurance companies, big oil, all of it, have too much influence? You're right.

But if we were to stop that tomorrow, we would still have the indifference, the negligence that we saw in Flint. We would still have racism holding people back. We would still have sexism preventing women from getting equal pay. We would still have LGBT people who get married on Saturday and get fired on Monday. And we would still have governors like Scott Walker and others trying to rip out the heart of the middle class by making it impossible to organize and stand up for better wages and working conditions.

So I'm going to keep talking about tearing down all the barriers that stand in the way of Americans fulfilling their potential because I don't think our country can live up to its potential unless we give a chance to every single American to live up to theirs."
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Hillary Clinton finally found her argument against Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 OP
I thought "What the hell is wrong with this guy" was a good argument 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #1
HA! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #2
Made me laugh Rose Siding Feb 2016 #3
Good one! livetohike Feb 2016 #5
Yeah... I can't say I thought.. Cha Feb 2016 #8
Hillary was masterful. Sanders appeared flustered and frustrated. livetohike Feb 2016 #4
Diplomatically stated. 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #6
It's part of his "charm". livetohike Feb 2016 #7
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #9
She's hitting her stride... Satch59 Feb 2016 #10
Hillary is at her best when things are tough - another reason why she'll make an excellent president BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #11
I would gladly wear a t-shirt with the slogan pandr32 Feb 2016 #12

livetohike

(22,163 posts)
4. Hillary was masterful. Sanders appeared flustered and frustrated.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:16 AM
Feb 2016

He can't keep up with her intellect. Hillary did a great job last night 😊.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
10. She's hitting her stride...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

Maybe was caught off guard when Bernie picked up strength and losing NH might prove to be the catylst in defining her candidacy. She's clarifying her message and showing what a fighter she is...always been. Hoping NV and SC are big wins and the tide will turn. She really will make an excellent President...

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
11. Hillary is at her best when things are tough - another reason why she'll make an excellent president
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:37 AM
Feb 2016

And that's why she has our support.

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