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BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:22 PM Feb 2016

Well - they went there.

Some BS supporters came here - into the HRC group - and had one of my posts here hidden. See http://www.democraticunderground.com/110745685

I have never - ever- had a post hidden on DU. I am totally and thoroughly disgusted by the lack of balance shown here. Trash and outright lies against Hillary are posted on a daily basis. Yet when I post an article - written by a feminist who felt strongly about the sexism shown towards her by BS supporters - that post is hidden.

The post was NOT in GD-P where it might be disruptive. It was here in the HRC Group, where it did NOT smear BS, but merely expressed the writer's opinion about what the choices in this election are.

Those are not necessarily MY opinions. But I will say this: actions like this are specifically intended to have a chilling effect on free speech.

There is NO even-handedness shown by juries who allow almost EVERY single trash post against HRC or her supporters to stand and then squelch even the most implicit hint of criticism - even well-founded criticism - against her opponent.

This is nothing but TYRANNY from the left. Tyranny is the antithesis of democracy.

If this post gets hidden, then we shall know that tyranny reigns triumphant here on the erstwhile Democratic Underground.



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Well - they went there. (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 OP
Oh yes they are infamous for workinclasszero Feb 2016 #1
If I had not been for Hillary before, BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #3
I was undecided. wildeyed Feb 2016 #6
We are anonymous here. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #7
+1,000 Hekate Feb 2016 #33
If Bernie somehow becomes president workinclasszero Feb 2016 #44
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #46
And then complain that they got banned from the group! mcar Feb 2016 #12
They are no longer in the real world. fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #37
I had one as well. First in 15 years Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #2
Thanks, I find more adults in this BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #10
Agreed. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #25
It's appalling. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #4
It was the generic BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #9
Wow. Oh lord. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #11
Unreasonableness! Cheap! Treant Feb 2016 #5
I'm sorry to hear that DesertRat Feb 2016 #8
when I see comments like "Bernie kicked her lying ass all over the place!", in regard to the debate, still_one Feb 2016 #13
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #17
Hey, BlueMTex! Cha Feb 2016 #14
Thanks, Cha! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #16
You are absolutely right pandr32 Feb 2016 #15
They don't seem to see how much BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #18
I'm just going to leave this here. Khellendross Feb 2016 #19
This does not belong in the Hillary Clinton group BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #20
The content is about Hillary. Khellendross Feb 2016 #21
.words own her, within talking the of so or 80% does She. eom fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #38
The multiple alerts will go to the Admins, even though the Jury let the disruption stand... Hekate Feb 2016 #34
These are the same people Coolest Ranger Feb 2016 #22
I am not a POC but BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #23
Can't say (feminism) but hides don't go out to slanderous swearwords that demean women. misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #24
Well I just rec'ed that thread sheshe2 Feb 2016 #26
A totally ridiculous hide. The alert button is far too easy to push. guillaumeb Feb 2016 #27
I postumously recced the post, blue. Hang in there. Squinch Feb 2016 #28
Truly Kafkaesque! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #39
Guess what this OP was alerted kydo Feb 2016 #29
Thanks so much, kydo! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #40
I want a hammer! fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #30
shhhhhhhh Rose Siding Feb 2016 #31
Love it ... BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #42
What you said Hekate Feb 2016 #32
Thanks, Hekate! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #41
Can you put it on a drop box link, or... LAS14 Feb 2016 #35
Look up... eom fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #36
Sorry, I don't understand... LAS14 Feb 2016 #45
What fleabiscuit said ... BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #43

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
3. If I had not been for Hillary before,
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

I would certainly have gone wholeheartedly for her based on the total B***S*** that is posted here about her 24/7.

They can keep it up. But it will ultimately have a price for their candidate. I know that I will be speaking out to everyone I know personally about how one cannot even dare say anything even remotely capable of being interpreted as the slightest deviation from adulation. There are actually quite a few people who value my opinion.

This nastiness is truly frightening for our future.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
6. I was undecided.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:00 PM
Feb 2016

Leaning Clinton, but open to Sander's message. And then I came here..... I am confident I would have decided for Clinton anyway, but doubt I would be as solid as I am without the goading I received here and on Twitter. I have a sticker on my car already, and donated far more than usual this early in the game.

And like you, I have some political cred in the real world and use it sway opinions on the outside. It is funny too, because many of my less political friends assume that I am feeling the bern too, and they I blow up their Sanders love fest FB thread. Politely and with facts, but just burn them all the way down

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
7. We are anonymous here.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:15 PM
Feb 2016

But many - if not most - of us have street cred in the real world, both political and otherwise.

So when these newbies think they are "berning" us, they are unfortunately working against their candidate's best interests.

I don't care whether they "get" it or not. I just know that I will be phone-banking for Hillary in another week, continuing to contribute as much as I can, and continuing to speak on her behalf to set the record straight everywhere I can.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
44. If Bernie somehow becomes president
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016

All the democrats his bros smeared, character assassinated, and threw under his damned bus are going to laugh as he twists in the republican wind and gets jack squat done.

I'll be calling for him to be primaried, just like Bernie himself did for president Obama.

What goes around comes around.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
2. I had one as well. First in 15 years
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:28 PM
Feb 2016

These are children coming in here to do that, and children who support it in the jury.

Take comfort knowing that the adults are here and will be when this is over in March.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
9. It was the generic
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016

rude, disruptive yadayadaydada ...

I'm only laughing out of frustration.

But I will be using that frustration actively to work FOR Clinton, whereas I might have sat back otherwise and let the capable others do it for me. If anything, such treatment has galvanized me.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
11. Wow. Oh lord.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 11:25 PM
Feb 2016

Yeah, the hostility has me considering doing more too. It did prompt me to sign up as a monthly donor, which I've never done before. I'll probably try to squeeze in some more on the next paycheck.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
5. Unreasonableness! Cheap!
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:59 PM
Feb 2016

But for a limited time only.

Before the Primary rolls into Pennsylvania, this will essentially be over. Bernie has 8 days left on his bump, and it's pretty much downhill from there.

still_one

(92,397 posts)
13. when I see comments like "Bernie kicked her lying ass all over the place!", in regard to the debate,
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:14 AM
Feb 2016

along with attacks against John Lewis, PP, NARAL, etc. It makes me pause and wonder, what exactly does Bernie Sanders stand for, because I have a real problem with those attacks and insults

Cha

(297,659 posts)
14. Hey, BlueMTex!
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016

So sorry you got a hide.. I know how awful it feels.

"If this post gets hidden, then we shall know that tyranny reigns triumphant here on the erstwhile Democratic Underground."

Whether it does or not.. it's still here.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
16. Thanks, Cha!
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

HRC supporters are a great group - and most BS supporters are too.

The nasty ones are like spoiled brats, over-indulged and - in at least some instances that I know of firsthand - using trust fund monies or their elders' savings to rail against "The Establishment."

They don't "get" the irony in that at all.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
20. This does not belong in the Hillary Clinton group
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

and certainly deserves a Hide altogether.

Shame on you!

Hekate

(90,795 posts)
34. The multiple alerts will go to the Admins, even though the Jury let the disruption stand...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:35 PM
Feb 2016

...and you have chosen to let it stand as well.

Thank you for participating.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
22. These are the same people
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

who take delight in telling people of color like me that I will do what they want and if I don't fall in line I'm called a racist, I'm called an Establishment or third way.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
23. I am not a POC but
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:56 PM
Feb 2016

I LOVE the AA Group because there are adults like you there!

They really do not see how similar they are to RW GOPers. That is truly frightening.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
24. Can't say (feminism) but hides don't go out to slanderous swearwords that demean women.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:24 PM
Feb 2016

Bigotry, mysogyny.
Lying slander deception

Club of the man cave says what to censor & what to repeat.
Hillary will shatter their filthy glass ceiling..to pieces, and we will be a better society for it.

In the US & on a Global scale, Women, Latino, African American, LGBTQ, Homeless, Exploited Children, Hunger, Poverty, Sick & Dying with no hope nor help, Elderly struggling & the Forgotten & The Unheard. They are all Hillary's base and there's a reason why.


guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
27. A totally ridiculous hide. The alert button is far too easy to push.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:40 PM
Feb 2016

A Sanders supporter, but a committed Democratic voter.

While I do not agree with the opinion, I think rather than alerting, post a reason why you think the opinion is incorrect.

Squinch

(51,008 posts)
28. I postumously recced the post, blue. Hang in there.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

My first DU hide was because I excerpted the sick hootinholler rant to say that I couldn't believe it wasn't hidden.

(This one: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=30492)

Things are pretty ridiculous here.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
29. Guess what this OP was alerted
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:07 PM
Feb 2016

I was juror #2

On Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:56 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Well - they went there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110745759

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The clear accusation here is that DUers who took offense to a sexist post are some how "tyrants" This in itself is rude and unneeded on this Democratic site. Please review the hidden post to see just how sexist it is.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:04 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This was posted in the HRC group. Maybe supporters of the bs guy should stay out of that forum. They have their bs group plus they have completely taken over the GDP with total smear on HRC and this photo crap. Grow up bs fans! Maybe bs is the correct term for all this crap, just like his initials.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Given that the original post stated that sanders wants to put all women in dog cages, this whole discussion seems beyond civil or in any way appropriate.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Tyranny? lmfao. No way Im hiding this. Ive never heard anyone but RWNJ's scream about tyranny. If someone wants to wave that flag I say let 'em. Only shows how ridiculous they are.


Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The OP is overdramatic pearl clutching, but I'm not hiding it. It doesn't meet the standard.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.


BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
40. Thanks so much, kydo!
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016


But the Hillary campaign would have had another $50 contribution from me had it been hidden.

Perhaps I'll change my vow to contribute for every Alert instead of for a Hide, which could get me thrown off DU entirely. I could really max out soon!

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
31. shhhhhhhh
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:32 PM
Feb 2016

On Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:12 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I want a hammer!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=46405

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a re-post of a duly hidden vile post. If it was due a hide then it is now , as well. Backdoor re-posting of a hidden post surely deserves a hide. This was very intentional.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:23 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It shouldn't have been hidden if it was in the Politics group. But as it hardly elevates Hillary, it doesn't belong here.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Shouldn't have been hidden before either
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I can't find any reason why this post should be hidden.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Hekate

(90,795 posts)
32. What you said
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:28 PM
Feb 2016

And just in case, here it is in full:

Well - they went there.
Some BS supporters came here - into the HRC group - and had one of my posts here hidden. See http://www.democraticunderground.com/110745685

I have never - ever- had a post hidden on DU. I am totally and thoroughly disgusted by the lack of balance shown here. Trash and outright lies against Hillary are posted on a daily basis. Yet when I post an article - written by a feminist who felt strongly about the sexism shown towards her by BS supporters - that post is hidden.

The post was NOT in GD-P where it might be disruptive. It was here in the HRC Group, where it did NOT smear BS, but merely expressed the writer's opinion about what the choices in this election are.

Those are not necessarily MY opinions. But I will say this: actions like this are specifically intended to have a chilling effect on free speech.

There is NO even-handedness shown by juries who allow almost EVERY single trash post against HRC or her supporters to stand and then squelch even the most implicit hint of criticism - even well-founded criticism - against her opponent.

This is nothing but TYRANNY from the left. Tyranny is the antithesis of democracy.

If this post gets hidden, then we shall know that tyranny reigns triumphant here on the erstwhile Democratic Underground.


It absolutely is tyranny, and mob rule. I have no faith left in the process here. You're right -- it's absolutely intended to have a chilling effect on true discussion. I pass by thread after thread without comment, and the comments I start to write are often erased. The latest alert on a comment of mine was for saying, "Sorry about your amnesia. I'll bet Obamacare has a treatment for that." To a poster who claimed Obama has done nothing with his 8 years in office. Now, by luck it was let to stand 6-1, but you can start an office pool on how long it will be before my last alert. After almost 14 years.

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