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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:01 PM Feb 2016

Sanders ups his attacks on President Obama in new interview with @kasie.

Maddow was talking of this last night--she ran some video clips of Sanders --including his victory NH speech--touting he can get elected because he is bringing new voters into the system--but Maddow said this is not true--as you can see Dems voters is Down in both both Iowa and NH.



LiberalPhenom ?@LiberalPhenom 32m32 minutes ago

LiberalPhenom Retweeted Brian Fallon

Just wow. Do you not realize @SenSanders turnout was down 10% in IA, 13% in NH from 2008? Where's your revolution?



Senator Sanders ups his attacks on President Obama in new interview with @kasie. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/sanders-obama-hasn-t-closed-presidential-leadership-gap-n516586 #p2


Feb 11 2016, 10:56 am ET
Sanders: Obama Hasn't Closed 'Presidential Leadership Gap'

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/sanders-obama-hasn-t-closed-presidential-leadership-gap-n516586

by Kasie Hunt

NEW YORK, N.Y. -- Bernie Sanders says the aim of his political revolution is to bring more people into the political process than President Barack Obama, arguing that he can close a presidential leadership gap that's persisted over the eight years of the Obama administration.

"There's a huge gap right now between Congress and the American people. What presidential leadership is about closing that gap," he told MSNBC in an interview Wednesday that will air in full Thursday evening on "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell."

Asked if he believed President Obama had closed that gap, Sanders said: "No, I don't. I mean, I think he has made the effort. But I think what we need, when I talk about a political revolution, is bringing millions and millions of people into the political process in a way that does not exist right now."

Sanders said his strategy for pushing through an ambitious agenda that includes single payer health care and free college tuition would involve mobilizing thousands of people who don't currently participate in the political process — though he did acknowledge that the president turned out more voters, particularly minorities, than ever before.

His remarks come as the Democratic primary turns toward more diverse states like Nevada, with a large Latino population, and particularly South Carolina, where black voters are a majority of the primary electorate. Hillary Clinton has criticized Sanders in the past for being critical of the nation's first African American president. Sanders "criticized President Obama for taking donations from Wall Street. Sen. Sanders called [Obama] weak, disappointing. He even in 2011 publicly sought someone to run in a primary against President Obama," Clinton told an audience in Charleston, S.C., earlier this month.

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Sanders ups his attacks on President Obama in new interview with @kasie. (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2016 OP
... mcar Feb 2016 #1
I saw that and could not believe what he said, nor could I believe how many times Sanders... George II Feb 2016 #2
Well I think we all know how I feel about that. but I can't say exactly Cha Feb 2016 #6
I'll say it for you: It's complete bullshit. nt kjones Feb 2016 #23
goodbye Bernie eom. artyteacher Feb 2016 #3
Obama always said we needed to do it together. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #4
Pragmatism vs idealism vs magical thinking peggysue2 Feb 2016 #10
"Hillary goes to Flint; Bernie insults the Obama Administration. Hummm. Who has their finger on the Cha Feb 2016 #22
Peggysue peggysue! yallerdawg Feb 2016 #25
I Tip My Hat to Sady Doyle peggysue2 Feb 2016 #31
It's posted on General Discussion, too. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #32
The Obama coalition is vital to winning Politicub Feb 2016 #5
I don't think he cares about the Obama coalition kjones Feb 2016 #24
I think Sanders Authentically believes kennetha Feb 2016 #27
So let me get this straight... pandr32 Feb 2016 #7
Good point, just smear anyone who does not back him. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #11
right.. when all he's doing is dividing. Cha Feb 2016 #12
Ok . And the Congressional Black Caucaus PAC Answered misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #8
Mister! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #14
Hi to you Sheshe & all who speak for MPOTUS.. misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #18
Texas for Hillary! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #26
Guess how well do you think critizing President Obama will play in NV, SC and the SEC Primaries CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #9
Yes We Can! Cha Feb 2016 #13
Hey my Cha! misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #19
My mister! Cha Feb 2016 #20
Ups his attacks on Obama?!!! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #15
Because the rwingers lying their heads off about President Obama isn't enough, she.. Cha Feb 2016 #21
Jay Carney said he was backing Hillary so under the bus President Obama goes, Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #16
Oh there's a gap alright. Eom GusBob Feb 2016 #17
Big Gap misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #28
So funny...... concreteblue Feb 2016 #29
sanders does it al by himself. Nobody needs to do anything but report the facts on him. Cha Feb 2016 #30
Attacking President Obama is not a good idea Gothmog Feb 2016 #33

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. I saw that and could not believe what he said, nor could I believe how many times Sanders...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:09 PM
Feb 2016

....interrupted her and "corrected" her with stuff that she was saying that was true.

Andrea Mitchell and Kasie Hunt were just discussing it again, and stressed the fact that Sanders is now going after Obama, as you say -claiming that Obama was is a weak and disappointing President.

Cha

(297,298 posts)
6. Well I think we all know how I feel about that. but I can't say exactly
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:20 PM
Feb 2016

how I feel or I would get a hide.

Suffice to say that President Obama wants Hillary Clinton to be POTUS for an excellent reason. She appreciates all the successes and lives in the reality of them.

We'll see who's "weak and disappointing". he's running on the Dem ticket smearing the successful and beloved President of the Democratic party.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. Obama always said we needed to do it together.
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:14 PM
Feb 2016

The fact that Republicans are turning out in record numbers - and Democrats in decline - does not bode well for 'the revolution' and, in fact - we lose if Republicans turn out in record numbers while Democrats stay at home!

This is the result of the Democratic Primary so far. The exact opposite of the campaign promises. And Hillary supporters understand the results will always be the exact opposite of his promises.

"The opposite of pragmatism is not idealism - it's wishful thinking."



peggysue2

(10,831 posts)
10. Pragmatism vs idealism vs magical thinking
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, magic numbers, wishful thinking and dissing the first AA POTUS does not a revolution make. Particularly when you're heading into primaries where minorities have a very influential sway in the vote.

But please, keep on digging.

Hillary goes to Flint; Bernie insults the Obama Administration. Hummm. Who has their finger on the pulse??

Btw, have you read Sady Doyle's essay on Progressivism [or what women sound like when they stop smiling]? I found the piece on Uppity Woman's blog. Link to original Tumbler piece here:

http://sadydoyle.tumblr.com/post/138860699828/progressive

My salute to Doyle and everyone else who has had it with the Sanders' fawning and fairytale circuit.

Cha

(297,298 posts)
22. "Hillary goes to Flint; Bernie insults the Obama Administration. Hummm. Who has their finger on the
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016
pulse??"

Well said, peggysue2 thank you!



rivers~http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=43980

peggysue2

(10,831 posts)
31. I Tip My Hat to Sady Doyle
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:20 PM
Feb 2016

Glad you enjoyed it, yallerdawg. I love passing great pieces along when they so-o-o hit the mark. Particularly for those of us wearied by the Saint Bernard mantras.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
5. The Obama coalition is vital to winning
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders is a short sighted idiot if he thinks criticizing Obama will help him in the long run.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
24. I don't think he cares about the Obama coalition
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:27 PM
Feb 2016

I think he sees his only in as being through independents and disaffected conservatives.
He seems to be going after the cynical white vote.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
27. I think Sanders Authentically believes
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:42 PM
Feb 2016

this kind of stuff....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511200848

about Obama. He's been hold back, cause he knows it won't get him anywhere (which is a little inauthentic and calculating, I know.)

Hillary and her supporters need to really flush Sanders out on his true feelings about Obama, perhaps using the words of Cornel West -- who Sanders frequently has introduce him -- as the foil.


West has called Obama a Rockefeller Republican in black face, a "niggerized" president, and a lot worse.

Senator Sanders, you frequently have Cornel West introduce you to audiences [list a bunch, there are a lot]. But Mr West has called Obama, a "Rockefeller Republican in black face' and has used an ugly racial slur to characterize the president's approach to racial issues. Do you agree with him? And if you don't, why do you invite him on the campaign trail with you so often?

.....

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
7. So let me get this straight...
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie will be the great uniter? He will magically bring everyone together?
We have seen how that is working already with his supporters bullying everyone.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
8. Ok . And the Congressional Black Caucaus PAC Answered
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:41 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 11, 2016, 03:05 PM - Edit history (1)



Good luck bernie

edit to correct CBC PAC

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
18. Hi to you Sheshe & all who speak for MPOTUS..
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:10 PM
Feb 2016

Just spent a few days with our HRC campaign group here in Tx.
Its looking very good for Hillary, btw

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
9. Guess how well do you think critizing President Obama will play in NV, SC and the SEC Primaries
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:51 PM
Feb 2016

Ding! ding! Ding!!! We have a winner. You're right - not very well at all.

But you really can't blame Bernie for criticizing Obama- he has had a bad habit of criticizing Democrats since he was a young man and that habit is hard to shake.

Cha

(297,298 posts)
21. Because the rwingers lying their heads off about President Obama isn't enough, she..
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

We'll see how this plays with the Hillary's and Obama's Diverse Coalition who actually live in reality.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. Jay Carney said he was backing Hillary so under the bus President Obama goes,
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 02:04 PM
Feb 2016

its the pattern of his campaign, the bus has lots more room.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
29. So funny......
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

Every attempt to paint the Good Senator in a negative light only further accentuates the desperation and outright fear in Camp Weathervane.
"No, I don't. I mean, I think he has made the effort. But I think what we need, when I talk about a political revolution, is bringing millions and millions of people into the political process in a way that does not exist right now."
THIS is what you call an attack? That is an opinion. Nothing more.
An attack is something like where Ms Clinton called out Senator Sanders for voting for the CFMA when she knows damn well it was added last minute to must pass funding resolution...while the author of the bill sits on her Campaign team as CFO....
Cheesus, a disinterested reader would think Hillary had hired Rove....

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