Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumDo Bernie's fans know we EXPECTED to lose NH?
Worse, do they know we expected to lose by about that much?
Let's put this in NASCAR terms: Dale Earnhardt led, at one time or another in his career, every lap in the Daytona 500. No one remembers the year he led lap 43.
Everyone remembers the year he led lap 200.
Bernie just led lap 43. Hillary will lead lap 200.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)They just don't want to admit it. They want to believe that we're all in shock, and are rethinking our support for Hillary.
This is probably their last hurrah - so let them enjoy it.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)However, when he loses SC and NV as badly as the polls suggest, I intend to not be so kind.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)I have always felt bad when any Dem candidate has had to drop out of the race - and I certainly felt that way when O'Malley suspended his campaign last week.
I realize how much time, effort, sweat and tears go into every campaign, not only on the part of the candidate, but on the part of their supporters and volunteers. So I am always sad to see them have to acknowledge that it was all for naught in the end.
I feel very differently about BS and his campaign. I will not be at all saddened to see him leave. In fact, I will celebrate his departure.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)And if Bernie were a Democratic candidate, I'd feel that way about his campaign.
Cha
(297,272 posts)Im gonna let the Berniestans enjoy every moment of their night tonight. There wont be many more & I learned from PBO to play the long game
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Hekate
(90,705 posts)Honestly...
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)In 2008 she got 40% of the NH vote. Tonight she got 38%. The problem was this time the "not Hillary" vote was not split up by a large field of Dem candidates.
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)uponit7771
(90,346 posts)... Clinton lost the 08 primary with that coalition.
What the hell, MSNBC was so dead set on ignoring the votes of Poc that it was stepping all over themselves to say this as a hard loss for HRC
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)It's funny, really. The narrative in March will be Clinton is the new comeback kid.
For gods sake, we always knew she would lose NH and thought she'd lose Iowa. She freaking won Iowa and they treat it as a loss.
They just want an exciting race to the finish. It won't be.
artyteacher
(598 posts)Nate said Hillary would win Iowa and Bernie would win New Hampshire. So that's what I expected.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I wish they would cut their trash talk because it is stupid. I liked Hillary's and Bernie's speeches. Hey it really is time to make Wall Street give back. They have been borrowing money at zero percent for 8 years while student loans are 7%, and Republicans filibustered bills to fix that and then refuse to do anytbing to fix anything.
Republicans and "conservatives" are my enemy.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)I bank with one of the institutions on Bernie's shit list because I travel and like to have branches of my bank in all the places I go. My savings account pays 0.01 percent interest - yes, that's one one-hundredth of a percent. Their average credit card interest rate is 18 percent. There's a big hole between the rate they pay me for the privilege of loaning out my money and the rate I'd have to pay them to borrow some.
Bernie wants a national 15 percent usury rate, and to me that looks like another "fuck the rich" scheme. What happens if the prime rate goes above that - and it has. If he was willing to do a split usury rate - 15 percent if the prime rate is 11 percent or less, or the prime rate plus four percent on the day you borrow the money if it goes above 11 - I'd be a little more accepting. Fact is, if he says "banks can never, ever, ever charge more than 15 percent interest" and the prime hits 16, the economy will come to a screeching halt.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)but yes, I knew she was going to lose NH.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)However, I also saw estimates that he was going to win by 30.
In reality, this result does not portend well for the Bernie campaign. Go to:
http://www.decisiondeskhq.com
and look at the precinct totals. A troubling pattern (well, for him anyway) emerges: the farther you get from Vermont, the worse he does. And there were a few precincts where he actually lost.
One of my political maxims is, "A Southern Democrat and a Northern Republican look a lot alike." Southern Democrats are center to somewhat-right-of-center; Bernie is farther to the left than any Democrat I know IRL. (Well, except for the part about guns and the fact his healthcare plan will put Planned Parenthood out of business, but beside that the dude makes Che Guevara look like Barry Goldwater.) Hillary's centrism is a good thing in most of the country.