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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:36 AM Feb 2016

Battenfield: Hillary Clinton closing in on comeback

Granite State drama unfolds in Dem race

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/joe_battenfeld/2016/02/battenfeld_hillary_clinton_closing_in_on_comeback

Note: There are lots of snarks at BOTH Dem candidates in this piece. But Hillary is looking like a "Comeback Kid" in NH. May that trend continue!

The former secretary of state is closing fast on Vermont U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders — from a 20-point deficit to just seven in a week. The latest Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll has Sanders at 51 percent to her at 44 percent, compared to his 57 percent to her 37 percent last week. And there’s a possibility she could even overtake him — essentially lights out for his insurgent campaign in just two tries.

Sanders still holds the edge. The poll shows only 17 percent of Democratic primary voters could change their minds. But a narrow win would allow Clinton to claim yet another amazing comeback and move on, with most of the media buying it.

New Hampshire voters are notorious for giving front-runners a scare, and this one is holding true to form on the Democratic side. They know full well how much their votes mean and aren’t afraid to use their voices strategically.
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Clinton also is beating Sanders now among voters who aren’t eligible for AARP membership — the 35-49 demographic, according to the poll. Sanders must rely on a big turnout from young voters, a risky strategy especially if a snowstorm keeps students in their dorms.
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Battenfield: Hillary Clinton closing in on comeback (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 OP
"Comeback Kid" in NH. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #1
In New Hampshire!? In a week?! Imagine that of all places! Cha Feb 2016 #2
Hoping for single digits tomorrow mainstreetonce Feb 2016 #3
The author of that piece really doesn't like the Clintons Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #4
You noticed that too? BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #7
Yes! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #8
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #10
The Boston Hearld is a RW Rag previously owned by Rupert Murdoch Fla Dem Feb 2016 #19
When I lived in Boston... wysi Feb 2016 #22
The fact that Clinton has surged of late pandr32 Feb 2016 #5
A single-digit loss by Clinton BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #9
Absolutely agreed! pandr32 Feb 2016 #21
Dems in general - of whatever age - have Hillary's back. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #6
But..but.. workinclasszero Feb 2016 #11
It's still possible! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #12
Whatever happens in NH... workinclasszero Feb 2016 #13
Won't hold my breath. A single digit loss won't slow her roll Rose Siding Feb 2016 #14
Thankfully they don't have all BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #15
I still don't.. HillDawg Feb 2016 #16
I don't think she'll win NH, either. I could be totally wrong (and I'd be happy as could be if that BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #17
Agreed. Treant Feb 2016 #18
True Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #20

Cha

(297,240 posts)
2. In New Hampshire!? In a week?! Imagine that of all places!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:43 AM
Feb 2016

Thank you for this, BlueMTex!

Clinton also is beating Sanders now among voters who aren’t eligible for AARP membership — the 35-49 demographic, according to the poll.

Smart! the young folks don't have to worry about Social Security or Medicare.. or anything too much.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
4. The author of that piece really doesn't like the Clintons
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:11 AM
Feb 2016

The contempt oozing from the page is a true tell. Oh, well!

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
7. You noticed that too?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:27 AM
Feb 2016

SNARK galore! But he also dinged Bernie - a bit of EO snark.

But even this CDS-afflicted person admits that things look much better than not for Hillary in NH.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
8. Yes!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:29 AM
Feb 2016

When even a snarky anti Clinton writer sees the writing on the wall, then.....the writing is on the wall!

Fla Dem

(23,671 posts)
19. The Boston Hearld is a RW Rag previously owned by Rupert Murdoch
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

"In February 1994, Murdoch's News Corporation was forced to sell the paper, in order that its subsidiary Fox Television Stations could legally consummate its purchase of Fox affiliate WFXT (Channel 25) because Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy included language in an appropriations barring one company from owning a newspaper and television station in the same market.[11][12][13] Patrick J. Purcell, who was the publisher of the Boston Herald and a former News Corporation executive, purchased the Herald and established it as an independent newspaper. Several years later, Purcell would give the Herald a suburban presence it never had by purchasing the money-losing Community Newspaper Company from Fidelity Investments. Although the companies merged under the banner of Herald Media, Inc., the suburban papers maintained their distinct editorial and marketing identity.


[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Herald|

wysi

(1,512 posts)
22. When I lived in Boston...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:34 PM
Feb 2016

... from 1984 to 1991, I refused to buy the Herald, just for that reason.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
5. The fact that Clinton has surged of late
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:20 AM
Feb 2016

...narrowing the gap, proves that the huge win needed by Sanders in Iowa and New Hampshire in order to have any chance going forward was a fantasy.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
9. A single-digit loss by Clinton
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:29 AM
Feb 2016

would be as good as a win in the circumstances.

She doesn't need NH. Bernie absolutely does - and with a BIG win.

But our candidate is fighting for the win - even when she's down - just as she will fight hard for us all!

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
6. Dems in general - of whatever age - have Hillary's back.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:23 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie's support comes primarily from the Indies, especially the youngest among them.

How many Indies will even vote in the Dem primary is always a BIG question in NH - especially with such a clown sideshow in the GOP to draw them - so it's always a risky bet to count on them. If Bernie can't appeal to enough of them in NH - when he is from the neighborhood, so to speak, and a long-time Indie himself - to win handily, there is no earthly reason to believe that he can appeal to enough of them in a GE, despite what some national polls may say now.

I had a rather strange post-Iowa exchange with a Bernie supporter who insisted that Bernie's loss there (at least he admitted it was a loss) was due to Indies voting in the GOPer caucuses. While that may have contributed to the outcome and I was ready to accept that, he implied further that those Indies should have been "forced" to vote in the Dem caucuses to support Bernie.

That was a very odd idea from anyone who purports to support democracy over despotism.

The Dem base is still solidly behind Hillary, as will become much clearer in later primaries, whatever happens in NH. But I am very glad to see her gaining ground in NH.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. Whatever happens in NH...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

...it will be the highpoint of the BS revolution.

Its all downhill from there Bernie!

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
14. Won't hold my breath. A single digit loss won't slow her roll
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:50 AM
Feb 2016

She has unbreakable majorities in upcoming states that better reflect the make up our party.

Giving so much weight to these fitn states is fubar. We see it every election, fuss about it, and never change it.

The Dem base is largely POC, yet states with tiny minority populations have an over sized influence on who will represent us.

Can something even be a little bit racist?

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
15. Thankfully they don't have all
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:53 AM
Feb 2016

that much of an effect for the very reasons that you state.

But it is very annoying that they are given so much attention and cause so much angst. And yes, I believe that your comments are spot on.

 

HillDawg

(198 posts)
16. I still don't..
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:04 AM
Feb 2016

think she is going to get a victory, but I do think only a 6-8 point loss is a possibility, which would be a very nice statement on her part heading into Nevada and South Carolina.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
17. I don't think she'll win NH, either. I could be totally wrong (and I'd be happy as could be if that
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

were the case!) but from where I'm sitting, I don't see how she can win. That said, New Hampshire hasn't chosen a Democratic candidate in the primaries who's actually gone on to win the White House since 1976. I hope they'll change their losing streak tomorrow and vote for Hillary Clinton, though.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
18. Agreed.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:26 PM
Feb 2016

I'd be entirely thrilled with anything under a 15 point loss, but would prefer to see them split the delegates evenly (9 points or less? Something like that, NH's splits are weird).

A win? I'd be over the Moon! Which is a problem as I don't have a space suit...

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