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Bernie Underground is already predicting "fraud" on Tuesday (Original Post) jmowreader Feb 2016 OP
Yeah shenmue Feb 2016 #1
Yeah, somebody should keep an eye on bernie operatives. nt UtahLib Feb 2016 #2
In most places I've heard it's called "Snow." MADem Feb 2016 #3
My intuitive alarm goes off way too often these days... FarPoint Feb 2016 #4
I think you're right... jmowreader Feb 2016 #9
The Wizard of Burlington George II Feb 2016 #13
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #5
There are about 5 threads on the subject. But, we knew this was coming. leftofcool Feb 2016 #6
Maybe in the wrong mindset here, sometimes when you think Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #7
They are covering their bases bluestateguy Feb 2016 #8
Spot on! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #10
If he doesn't win by 15 Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #21
There are a few reasons why the polls are tightening - OhZone Feb 2016 #11
Snow and Wind predicted Treant Feb 2016 #14
Sad and Not Productive peggysue2 Feb 2016 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #15
I agree.. Welcome to Hill's Group, Hill~ Cha Feb 2016 #17
Welcome to DU Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #16
Independents can swing the election. If they decide to vote in the Republican Race Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #18
Sanders' support is primarily from Independents jmowreader Feb 2016 #20
Well, that's something that's easy to see coming from miles away. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #19

FarPoint

(12,408 posts)
4. My intuitive alarm goes off way too often these days...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:32 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Something is peculiar with the Sanders Campaign message..I think there is a puppet master behind the curtain....

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Maybe in the wrong mindset here, sometimes when you think
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:00 PM
Feb 2016

Conspiracy then you operate with conspiracy. Cognitive dissonance.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. They are covering their bases
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

If he wins (which is likely), then it's a clean, fair and transparent election, and the will of the people.

Anything less, or a narrow Bernie win, is "fraud".

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
11. There are a few reasons why the polls are tightening -
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

like the fact that Republicans are deciding to vote in their own primary since it's closer than they thought.

Yeah, OPEN primaries are a problem.

Oh well.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
14. Snow and Wind predicted
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:08 PM
Feb 2016

that evening as well, turning weaker-motivated voters from likely to unlikely in the polls.

Independents also seem to be choosing to vote in the (hotly contested) Republican primary as well. Why, I'm not sure, but I was registered Repub in PA for the longest time to vote in primaries for the least-crazy Republican (then Dem in the Generals). Eventually all the Repubs were crazy and I changed my registration.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
12. Sad and Not Productive
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

Regardless of the results, this isn't doing their candidate any great service. Bernie Sanders has a message, legitimate in my mind. But some of his supporters are diminishing the man and the message with this line of attack and nonsense. In fact, I wonder how many of the loyalists [the seething, insulting sort] are truly members of the Democratic Party.

We can agree to disagree but crying 'fraud' when you don't get the result you wish is . . . counterproductive.

Anyway this goes, we're going to have to coalesce around a single candidate and fight like hell for the WH and the majority. For me, that's HRC but Clinton taught me an important lesson years ago. By her own personal example.

I hated [and I mean hated] the result of the 2008 primary but Hillary Clinton was able to put the hard feelings aside and work for Barack Obama's election, and then [remarkably] join the Administration as SOS. It took me awhile to get my head around that but I came to see the moral strength in her decision.

That's why I still support her in 2016. But once the dust settles, I'm still my grandfather's girl, a Democrat from head to toe, ready to knock the naysayers, the Union busters and climate deniers flat. And laugh like hell while I'm doing it.

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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
18. Independents can swing the election. If they decide to vote in the Republican Race
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:22 PM
Feb 2016

it would likely be bad for Sanders.

If Sanders looses, I suspect it will be the independents choosing to vote on the Republican side.

I am interested in seeing which side has the most energy. In Iowa, the majority of the energy and excitement was among the Republican Electorate, but Iowa is a very different pickle than New Hampshire.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
20. Sanders' support is primarily from Independents
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:14 AM
Feb 2016

Bona fide Registered Democrats are breaking for Hillary.

One of the Bernie Underground denizens told me, "history will be made." Okay, what you are telling me is, a candidate on the Democratic ballot who despised and refused to join the Democratic Party until he had to, and who isn't pulling support from registered Democrats, African-Americans, Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, women, anyone over 30, anyone whose education ended at high school and anyone who went past a bachelor's degree is going to figure out how to unite all the people who don't like him to vote for him. Yeah, that WILL be kinda historic.

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