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Gman

(24,780 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:23 PM Feb 2016

Albright: 'Special place in hell for women who don't help each other'

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright had a special message for female voters Saturday on the campaign trail with Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

"And just remember," she said at a rally in Concord, N.H, flanked by Clinton and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.). "There's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other."


Well said Madam Secretary. Too bad too many women are selling out other women for the smoke from a pipe dream.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/268501-albright-theres-a-special-place-in-hell-for-women-who-dont-help-each-other
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Albright: 'Special place in hell for women who don't help each other' (Original Post) Gman Feb 2016 OP
If one more person tells me to vote with my vagina... DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #1
A woman that doesn't support Hillary sells out other women Gman Feb 2016 #2
In your opinion. DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #3
It's not opinion Gman Feb 2016 #5
No one wants you to do that--it would disturb the people at the polling booth if you tried. MADem Feb 2016 #6
The 'divisive' wasn't aimed at HRC, but at Albright. DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #7
Please take that sexist expression elsewhere. Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #8
I'm sorry you find the expression offensive. DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #9
If you flip it once more Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #15
I have heard her say that phase--special place in hell.....but in a different context. riversedge Feb 2016 #4
I am a woman with a vagina who will vote for Bernie angstlessk Feb 2016 #10
It's your sacred right to cast your vote as you wish Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #14
Why is this controversial? Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #11
Because it brings out the inherent conflict in supporting an Gman Feb 2016 #12
Ah! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #13
Is she suggesting... yallerdawg Feb 2016 #16
this applies to any minority group dlwickham Feb 2016 #17
I had to cringe when she said that. Lil Missy Feb 2016 #18

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
1. If one more person tells me to vote with my vagina...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

... I am going to scream. By this reasoning, all men should vote for Bernie.

There are many, many other reasons to support HRC. Could people focus on THAT please, and not these gender identity politics of divisiveness?

Gman

(24,780 posts)
2. A woman that doesn't support Hillary sells out other women
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

Around the world. If there's not, there should be a special place in hell for women that don't support other women.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
3. In your opinion.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

In my opinion, gender is not a convincing reason to vote for anyone. Policy, experience, vision, yes. Chromosomes, genitalia, no.
By your reasoning I would have to support any Democratic woman no matter what, even if she were as ridiculous as Sarah Palin, and, just, you know, NO, lol.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. No one wants you to do that--it would disturb the people at the polling booth if you tried.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

What you should do, though, is use your common sense and vote with that--understand that the person best prepared to tackle issues of interest to women and children, to people of non-white races and ethnicities, to the LGBT community, and to people who just haven't been given a fair shake in this country, and who has the experience, background and drive to place those issues at the forefront of her agenda, IS Hillary. Sanders doesn't prioritize these matters--he has this attitude, as many white men do, that race and gender issues can be solved with an economic approach--but were that true, surely most of those issues would have been 'solved' during economic good times. Fact is, though, they haven't been solved and they persist even when the economy is going full steam ahead.


Pretending that women don't face hurdles of pay, child care, access to health care, etc. isn't going to make those problems disappear. She's not being "divisive." She's championing issues of immediate interest to HALF THE POPULATION and that affect the entire population--even if many males don't quite realize this. She won't ever say those issues are "too divisive" (a favorite Sanders phrase). Because they aren't.

Solving them will unify us all. She'll get to work and make it work.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
7. The 'divisive' wasn't aimed at HRC, but at Albright.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

And thank you for the laugh - you're totally right, the sweet elderly woman who run my polling place would in fact be very disturbed by vaginal voting, lol.

Peace.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
8. Please take that sexist expression elsewhere.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016

Note that you don't have to vote for Hillary to support her woman to woman. Calling out wolf-whistle politics and sexist attacks will do it.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
9. I'm sorry you find the expression offensive.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

I can, and will, and do, call out wolf-whistle politics and sexist attacks because they have NO PLACE in our political discourse.

But the flip side is I do not support the idea that I should vote for her because we share a gender. That, to me, is just as sexist at it's core. It implies she cannot get my support because of her policies, her vision, her experience - and I think that in itself is a derogation of her.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
15. If you flip it once more
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

you may see that 'vagina voting' and other expressions are used to trivialize and suppress women's legitimate political aspirations. You don't have to vote for another woman, but it is a legitimate political objective to see females gain power and women have a right to prioritize that.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
4. I have heard her say that phase--special place in hell.....but in a different context.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

wonder how often she uses it. I do think it fits this occasions but the Sanders fans sure are upset. Nothing new. LBN has an article --but they misquoted her





Sat Feb 6, 2016, 05:13 PM

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Albright: 'Special Place In Hell' For Women Who Don't Support Clinton
Source: Guardian UK

Tom McCarthy in Concord, New Hampshire
@TeeMcSee
Saturday 6 February 2016 15.36 EST

Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright introduced Hillary Clinton at an event in New Hampshire on Saturday, telling the crowd and voters in general: “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”

In polling, Clinton trails the Vermont senator Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire by an average of around 17 points. She leads him nationally by 15 to 20 points. In this week’s Iowa caucus, which Clinton won narrowly, the former secretary of state led Sanders among women by 53% to 42% but lost out among younger voters.

Both campaigns were in New Hampshire on Saturday, ahead of Tuesday’s primary. Introducing Clinton in Concord, Albright said: “When she was secretary of state, she restored America’s reputation.

“Those other people before made huge mistakes. They really undermined our reputation and our position in the world, and Hillary Clinton brought us back, she restored our position in the world.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton



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angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
10. I am a woman with a vagina who will vote for Bernie
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

but if my only choice is Hillary vs the republican...I will vote for the Democrat

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
14. It's your sacred right to cast your vote as you wish
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

I'm glad you respect our right to do the same. And that you'll support the nominee no matter what! Thanks.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
12. Because it brings out the inherent conflict in supporting an
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

establishment male (yes establishment, he's been in congress for many years) over a woman while they seek acceptance from males. Likely this is because they lack the life experience to know they will never be accepted by men as equal.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
18. I had to cringe when she said that.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:05 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think it is an appropriate thing to say, nor an appropriate reason to vote for HRC. I, like most other Hillary supporters, am with HRC for her qualifications.

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