What in the hell is going on here?

[Stuckinthebush]

Here at DU, that is.

I swear it has become a slimmy pit similar to free republic. The anti Clinton venom is disgusting.

I really don't understand it. I tend to hope it is a minority of DUers who will leave or hide after the nomination.

It's really nasty. I had no idea that so many here absolutely hate Clinton. My god, this feels like the US congress!

[redstateblues]

1. Lot of similarities to Free Republic

[BlueCaliDem]

8. Too many to be mere coincidence. eom

[In_The_Wind]

2. It's kinda scary.

[hrmjustin]

3. This is common with them on twitter as well.

The trademark is being nasty to those who disagree with them.

[BlueCaliDem]

9. How liberal and forward thinking of them, right?

[hrmjustin]

11. I hate to say it but some of them border on fanatical.

I'm sure they mean well but it comes off bad.

[BlueCaliDem]

12. It's because they're "believers" rather than pragmatists. Believers, no matter where they are, are

inherently fanatical and lack common sense. They simply believe in something without really knowing how that something can come to fruition. Cults can only survive on those types of people.

[hrmjustin]

13. That is a great way to put it.

[BlueCaliDem]

14. Thanks, hrmjustin. :-)

[dlwickham]

36. And Facebook and every other internet site

[NurseJackie]

4. Your succinct observations are accurate.

It's really disgusting the way that many are behaving.

[Chalco]

5. I find it disgusting, too, and wonder...

how much of it is based on misogyny.

[BlueCaliDem]

10. I believe at least a part of it is. Misogyny isn't exclusively a RW position.

Now more than ever we see it, just as we'd seen that racism isn't exclusively RW, either, when Obama became president.

[Ellen Forradalom]

20. Lotta dudebros

don't want to take orders from Mom.

[Chalco]

21. Very good point!

[Cha]

6. And, of course they're in denial. What?! Who me?!

[mcar]

7. It's worse than it has ever been

I have real concerns that this great site won't be able to come back from this.

[Fla Dem]

28. I'm hoping the real true Democrats who support a progressive agenda

that can realistically be enacted will remain and support the Party's nominee. Those that only support candidates that promise the world, but end up delivering nothing will probably fade into oblivion. And of course the RW trolls who are here only to incite and drive a wedge between candidate supporters should pack up their shit and leave.

[MADem]

15. Yep. It's a problem. I think the admins are going to have to address it. nt

[Stuckinthebush]

18. This ^

Heads will explode in April because it will become abundantly clear that Sanders is toast.

My fear is that this place erupts in utter insanity. The mods will have to tombstone many and it's going to get ugly.

When the nomination process is full of invective plus irrationality, the reality of a Clinton nomination is going to hit them hard.

[MADem]

22. Thing is, there are no "mods." There are three hardworking "admins" but now the site is

self-regulating--i.e. anyone who signs up--even a troll or a sock--has an equal opportunity to serve as judge/jury/executioner on a post after they accumulate enough posts to serve on jury duty (an easy thing to do-- they can "+1" and "I agree" their way to that status while flying completely under the radar). I think the admins ought to institute a post count AND time-limit (like, say, six months) investment in the site in order to participate in jury duty. The way things are now, people who have been here a week and don't know the culture are weighing in.

The forum HOSTS can shut down a topic for being "off topic" but they can't touch any post past the first post. A thread can veer off into meta and they can't touch it (legally, anyway--that doesn't stop the odd martinet from going to town). In groups, the hosts can just do what they want, but they can't wipe out an individual post, they have to crush the whole thread.

[Stuckinthebush]

26. Ugh

You're right. I forgot about the no mods situation now.

Great.

[dlwickham]

37. Not sure if I can wait that long

I'm hoping March

[BooScout]

16. I've been taking a bit of a break to get away from it....

Just came back today to drop a new Hillary meme in here.

When they started making up lies and smears about me....and spreading them all over DU and even DI.....I knew it was time to take a step back from the hate and negativity for awhile. It's been nice getting out of the toxicity. I needed to store up some goodness and light for the caucuses and primaries that start on Monday!

[LannyDeVaney]

17. Yep, no more donations to this site for me. They are encouraging the venom ...

this site has just become another repository of hateful rhetoric.

[murielm99]

43. I am mulling that right now.

Should I be a star member of a place with so much hate toward a good Democrat?

And just look at all the other Democrats and the progressive organizations they are sliming!

[displacedtexan]

19. The spin is constant.

A few minutes ago, there was pride that BS had called for 3 more debates. The consensus was that that should show us HRC suporters that the kerfluffle over the unsanctioned debate was moot, and BS was the true leader of the party.

Truly heavy sigh.

[Chalco]

23. I fine myself more and more just going to the Hillary Group and

ignoring the rest of the site. What if she gets elected? Are they gonna smear her ad nauseum then, too?

[NurseJackie]

24. Probably.

[murielm99]

42. Yeah, probably.

We will need to keep this group, just as the BOG is needed.

[BlueCaliDem]

25. That gave me an idea! I set my bookmark to the Hillary Clinton Group. I can still see the sidebar

and navigate from there if I choose, but I had my bookmark set to Latest Threads for years. Now, with all the angry vitriol and constant RW attacks of Hillary Clinton, I've changed my "DU" bookmark to here. And I already like it!

[Fla Dem]

29. The lounge is pretty safe and there are some laughs there. Although the song/album OP's are really

taking over. What's with that? Wasn't like that even a year ago.

[72DejaVu]

30. Why not?

They have no respect for the current Democratic president.

[Stuckinthebush]

31. They really don't

It makes me question their legitimacy as Dems.

[Treant]

34. Same here

I didn't change my bookmark, but I've essentially gotten blind to the top stories column. I just head straight for the Clinton group.

[quickesst]

27. Just read another one...

... and I now strongly believe that at least half the anti Clinton threads should be moved from GDP to the Creative Speculation Forum..... along with an ample supply of these:

[drray23]

32. that is the exhuberance of youth

Many Bernie supporters are enamored with the goals and ideas that Bernie set forth.
Who would not be at first glance ? After all, if he could enact all his ideas, we would have universal healthcare, free college, etc..

Unfortunately, there is this little thing called reality..

Once you stop and think at what it takes to do any of these, its pretty obvious that it is doomed to failure. One of the reasons I support Hillary is because while she is progressive, she is also a pragmatic who knows how to move towards realistic goals. On top of this, she is a very strong leader whom I feel comfortable having at the helm in times of crisis. Sanders totally blanks out on that last one, he is stuck on one speed, one topic.

When the strength of your convictions is such that it prevents you from thinking about practical implementations, you have crossed the line from being a political leader to a propagandist or cult leader.

[okasha]

41. Swear to gods,

I think that if the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs called up President Sanders and told him that Russian (or other) missiles were coming over the Pole, he'd call up Putin (or other unpleasant person) and yatter at him about income inequality.

[Sancho]

33. Maybe this is an explanation...

http://bluenationreview.com/wewontbeerased-how-anti-clinton-trolls-are-firing-up-women/

An increasing number of people have voiced a suspicion that the ferocious trolling instigated by the slightest positive mention of Hillary has its roots in shadowy conservative astroturf operations.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-28/republicans-take-their-sanders-advocacy-to-the-next-level

Add Republican operatives to the list of strong Bernie Sanders supporters in the Democratic primary, along with progressive activists and young voters.
A super-PAC founded by Republican billionaire Joe Ricketts is making its first foray into the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, spending $600,000 on a television ad in Iowa calling Sanders "too liberal," according to the New York Times.
The ad then spotlights two of the policies that have helped fuel his rise in the Democratic primary—his calls for "completely free" college education and more taxes on Wall Street and the "super-rich."

[Hekate]

40. Sure feels like it. I've completely stopped welcoming newbies.....

....because so many fail to enhance the atmosphere at DU -- and gods forbid you point that out.

[Coolest Ranger]

35. Trash General Discussion: Primaries

Trash the Bernie Sanders group and add anything with Bernie Sanders in the trash. Your sanity will thank you.

[dlwickham]

38. Amen

[William769]

39. The Admins have given up and the let inmates take over the asylum.

That's what's going on.

[Stuckinthebush]

44. I think the admins are simply waiting this out

They have to let this go on in the spirit of the Dem primary but I guarantee you they are shaking their heads at the stupidity.

Once the summer comes around I anticipate a crack down by the admins. We will see a lot of tombstones and mysterious exit of troublesome posters.

[Cha]

45. lol.. I hope so.

[Nonhlanhla]

46. I agree

GD-P is a cesspool. I just ended a to-and-fro with someone by putting him/her on ignore. First time I've ever done that. The person was accusing me of being sexist because I pointed out sexist treatment of Hillary. Can you believe the chutzpah?!

Ugh.