Hillary Clinton
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From a Wikipedia discussion of Eric Hoffer's book, The True Believer: Thoughts On The Nature Of Mass Movements
"Hoffer states that mass movements begin with a widespread "desire for change" from discontented people who place their locus of control outside their power and who also have no confidence in existing culture or traditions.Feeling their lives are "irredeemably spoiled" and believing there is no hope for advancement or satisfaction as an individual, true believers seek "self-renunciation".Thus, such people are ripe to participate in a movement that offers the option of subsuming their individual lives in a larger collective. Leaders are vital in the growth of a mass movement, as outlined below, but for the leader to find any success the seeds of the mass movement must already exist in people's hearts."
Treant
(1,968 posts)I had an unfortunate discussion with a Sanders supporter elsewhere in which Sanders' legislation never fails, and a Sanders Presidency will make this supporter's life immeasurably better instantly.
In that particular instance, it had a very cult-like overtone.
Now mind you, I certainly assume that Clinton also has supporters like this. I'm just not one of them (and nobody in this group seems to be, either).
The seeds of the movement are certainly there, and have been since before Occupy. But I don't feel that Sanders is a very good face (or political force) for that movement.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)makes me very uneasy
some of it sounds like something straight out of a wanna-be dictatorship handbook
Treant
(1,968 posts)and an excellent point!
They seem to think that President Sanders (and I'm sorry, but I certainly hope not) will be able to wave a hand and, a la a dictatorship, give us all universal healthcare and candy and unicorns.
Mind you, I approve of all three of those things, but we have a three-way balance of power for a reason.
Sanders does little to discourage this. Much of what he discusses is something that would be impossible without very strong Congressional support. Which he will never have, given that even his own colleagues don't endorse him.
I certainly don't think the idea is in his head to form a dictatorship, but I'm also certain his campaign knows what his supporters are saying in general terms. (Heck, any campaign I ran would have volunteers reading Daily Kos, at least, for the tenor of support).
sweetloukillbot
(11,062 posts)The same zeal, the same viral messaging, the same talking points.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)people as well.