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Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:44 AM Dec 2015

Clinton Cleans Up

The Democrats -- Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Martin O'Malley -- put on another spirited debate. Granted, hardly anyone was watching on a Saturday night before Christmas.

Sanders did what he's in the contest to do: Make the case for the most liberal wing of the Democratic party. For him, it really does come down to the rich vs. the rest. His most telling moment was turning a question about domestic terrorism and ethnic profiling back to income inequality, saying, "I believe we stand together to address the real issues facing this country, not allow them to divide us by race or where we come from."

Sanders is knowledgeable in many areas, but the reason he's not in sync with his party isn't so much specific differences on policies as it is that he seems to be saying that other concerns -- ISIS, race, immigration and so on -- aren't "real issues."

As for Martin O'Malley: His low point was leveling a prepared charge of "bickering" at Sanders and Clinton (over the campaign data issue that blew up late in the week). Had he noticed that only a minute earlier Sanders had apologized, and Clinton had accepted the apology and played down the issue? It didn't get better: The audience booed him when he brought up the age difference between himself and the other two.

Clinton remains much better at this than any of the other twentysome candidates who have debated for the presidency this year, Republican and Democrat. She almost certainly won the soundbite war -- first by deftly apologizing for returning late to the stage after a commercial break, and then, when asked if Wall Street should love her as president, confidently responded that "everybody should." (And that's not even counting her "may the Force be with you" comment at the end of her final statement.)

Her strong debate performances might help Clinton avoid an embarrassing loss in Iowa or New Hampshire. But even if they don't, she has had the Democratic nomination wrapped up for some time, and nothing changed she did on Saturday night changes that.

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Cha

(297,240 posts)
3. Wow.. I hadn't heard this when the debates were being discussed..
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:03 AM
Dec 2015
"As for Martin O'Malley: His low point was leveling a prepared charge of "bickering" at Sanders and Clinton (over the campaign data issue that blew up late in the week). Had he noticed that only a minute earlier Sanders had apologized, and Clinton had accepted the apology and played down the issue? It didn't get better: The audience booed him when he brought up the age difference between himself and the other two".

Like people need to be told that! jeez.

I did read there was a lot of yelling from sanders and MOM.

And, what's with that crack some BS fan made about her wearing a "bathrobe"?

What did she say when she came back late from the break? I know there were a lot of petty mean cheap shots about that, too.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
4. Here is clip of late return after the break -
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:14 AM
Dec 2015


Sorry


ETA: The moment Hillary said "Sorry" I thought she sounded like Gilly, the Kristen Wiig character. Maybe Hil was on SNL one time when they had a Gilly bit and it stuck with her.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
7. OMG.. I'm cracking up here and I don't why.. that struck me as funny! And the
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:41 AM
Dec 2015

bernies were all.. she did it on purpose... stepped on his answer. wah!

Thank you so much, Durham!

I don't know about the SNL skits but Hillary's a natural.. not flustered at all that she had to come back late and walk to Center Stage with her noticeably missing.

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
6. There was a lot of shouting.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:37 AM
Dec 2015

I had planned to watch it to the end, but frankly Sanders' yelling gets to me quickly and I went to bed even before the break.

As for the "bathrobe" crack, you can tell she's winning the debate when they make snide remarks about her appearance. Pitiful.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
8. Scaping the bottom of barrel.. It really didn't matter what she was wearing.. she
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:47 AM
Dec 2015

drank their milkshakes.

Thanks brer~

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
16. Yeah, that stuck out for me as well. O'Malley was was an alternative for me, whereas BS never was.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:40 PM
Dec 2015

I'm confident Hillary will win this race, she has to; otherwise I'd be stuck having to choose between a thief and an increasingly apparent asshole.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
5. The perception of Hillary
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

and the Clinton we see are strikingly different. May the force be with you was the line of the night.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
17. Another night of Bernie yelling, Hillary looking presidential and O'Malley looking desperate.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:19 PM
Dec 2015

I don't know if I can sit through three more of these things. Who hasn't made up their minds at this point?

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