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Related: About this forumThe Obama Campaign Remembers 2012 Very Differently Than Bernie Sanders (HRC Group)
Just putting this here.
Confronted with his support for a progressive challenge to Obama in 2011, Sanders said Saturday he campaigned very hard for Obama in 2008 and 2012. Thats not how Obama aides remember it.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/the-obama-campaign-remembers-2012-very-differently-from-bern#.efbkoqWzB1
Walk away
(9,494 posts)to fund raise for anyone but himself.
If he actually were a Democrat, he would rate as a shitty one. Instead he is a Socialist who has been snarking at Democrats for decades. He has recently pretended to join our party even though he despises it and had vowed to never be so hypocritical as to join it.
What are we to make of him? His fellow house members do not seem to like or trust him and have endorsed his opponent in droves. Is he some kind of Quisling? Or is he just your run-of-the-mill political egomaniac? Hard to tell.
It seems that the bulk of his supporters are Libertarians, extreme left wingers and gun folk. Most of the people in those groups dislike President Obama as their common ground so it's not surprising that he distances himself from the President as much as possible.
Cha
(297,503 posts)what are his fans to think of that?
"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "
Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A Good Idea To Primary President Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)who, years later, said beneath his breath on Fox "News" Channel with a hot mic in reference to President Obama, that he'd like to "cut his nuts off" has ZERO chance at winning.
But that's pretty much the extent of his support for Democrats.
It seems that the bulk of his supporters are Libertarians, extreme left wingers and gun folk. Most of the people in those groups dislike President Obama as their common ground so it's not surprising that he distances himself from the President as much as possible.
It's why I continue to keep the Obama family as my avatar. I want them to know that I am, have always been, and will forever be an Obama supporter, and I never let an opportunity slide to remind these people what Senator Sanders had said, on multiple occasions on teevee, that it was a "good idea" to primary a beloved and our first Black president who saved this country from total economic collapse.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A Good Idea To Primary President Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/
Now bernie's sucking up to President Obama. And now Gov O'Malley and Obama's supporters know what kind of a person he is, BlueCali
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)He's doing poorly with Blacks, Hispanics/Latinos, and Asians. He can't win without them.
It also doesn't help that his supporters would rather go online and browbeat people into supporting their preferred candidate instead of taking to the streets and begin that million man/woman march - NOW - to help their preferred candidate.
Bernie Sanders is suffering lack of name recognition because his supporters aren't doing anything to change that.
Cha
(297,503 posts)The browbeating from BS's supporters have taken their toll with no end in sight.
#BlackLivesMatter got theirs and anyone who supports Hillary have had more than enough from that bunch.
Hillary has changed Hearts and Minds.. BS fans aren't changing anyone's heart or mind.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He only remembers what he wants and thinks others forget.
Cha
(297,503 posts)Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A Good Idea To Primary President Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Wonder where he will be next week. I am hoping he has seen the hand writing on the wall now that he is a Democrat. He is about as high as his poll numbers are going and destroying Democratic candidates is not going to help get any of issues enacted if a Republican gets elected.
Cha
(297,503 posts)and way to late for calling for him to be primaried in 2012.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A Good Idea To Primary President Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/
Yes he is.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)"Their take on Sanders role: In 2008, he got on board with Obama late. In 2012, he was either attacking the president from the left or doing little to get him elected. As for vigorously supporting him, they said, Sanders was not someone they thought of as a top surrogate.
Every indication we had was that he was considering a primary challenge, said one senior official from Obamas 2012 campaign.
Being annoying, another said when asked to recall how they remembered Sanders in 2012.
A third senior Obama campaign aide from 2012 said Sanders was simply not often top of mind."
Ouch!
Funny, a Sanders partisan pressed hard on me the other day that Obama was *totally* thinking a Sanders presidency would be like an Obama third term and supported him, etc. I thought that was probably incorrect.
Cha
(297,503 posts)wonder if these people are actually that dense or they're making shite up hoping others will buy?
Well let them think that .. I think we know who the President wants to carry on his legacy and ol coattails Bernie is not going to be anywhere near him.
This really pisses me off that Bernie's trying to take credit for supporting the President in 2012 when he called for him to be primaried.
Obama's going to be cementing his legacy in 2016 and Bernie is not going to be anywhere near him.
On This Day: President Barack Obama greets audience members after delivering remarks on infrastructure, the economy, and creating jobs by increasing exports, at the Port of New Orleans in New Orleans, La., Nov. 8, 2013 (by Pete Souza)
Thank you, Starry.
"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "
Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A Good Idea To Primary President Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Odd what people will grab a hold of.
I still think it was pretty chicken of Sanders to suggest that Obama face a primary, but not put himself up for it. He felt strongly enough about it to say it several times in the press. I guess he felt brave enough to run against HRC, maybe he figured this would be easier for him.
Cha
(297,503 posts)weasel words.
You can see by Bernie's statement that the reason he gave to primary him is false.. Millions aren't disappointed except repubs.
"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "
Millions support President Obama.
Bernie has no credibility. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)That seemed like weak tea to me. If you feel so strongly about taking down the first Black President, and one of the most popular Presidents, you should stick to your principles, right?
Cha
(297,503 posts)in 2012 Bernie wanted the President prmaried.. only he didn't want to do it for whatever weasel reason.
Now's he sucking up to President Obama and being disingenuous on national tv.
oh and what "principles"?
Cha
(297,503 posts)because you need Obama now, sanders.
" In 2012, he was either attacking the president from the left or doing little to get him elected"
Now Gov O'Malley and the President's supporters know what kind of person BS is.
"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "
Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A Good Idea To Primary President Obama
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/
Thanks msrizzo!
Gman
(24,780 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)He stated that without push back Obama would just go further to the right. That is a tinfoil hat thing to say. Obama was/is not going right.
Sanders is lying about things that we can see in video that he clearly said. He is re-writing history.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)I heard him on the Ed Schultz show on tv saying the same thing about wanting him primaried.
He can't make up stories that he was such a great supporter.
Maybe his age is showing and he can't remember or he's just a person who doesn't know the truth about what he said multiple times.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)It's like he went on tour. I wonder who he thought would run against Obama as he suggested, since he didn't have the conviction to do it himself?