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msrizzo

(796 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 02:21 PM Nov 2015

The Obama Campaign Remembers 2012 Very Differently Than Bernie Sanders (HRC Group)

Just putting this here.

Confronted with his support for a progressive challenge to Obama in 2011, Sanders said Saturday he “campaigned very hard” for Obama in 2008 and 2012. That’s not how Obama aides remember it.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/the-obama-campaign-remembers-2012-very-differently-from-bern#.efbkoqWzB1

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The Obama Campaign Remembers 2012 Very Differently Than Bernie Sanders (HRC Group) (Original Post) msrizzo Nov 2015 OP
I think it's pretty clear that Sanders has always sucked at supporting Democrats and done nothing... Walk away Nov 2015 #1
Not surprising he distanced himself bc his fans don't like PBS but now bernie sucks up to him.. Cha Nov 2015 #8
He's done very little. He supported Jesse Jackson in '84 and '88, knowing darn well the man BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #26
And the vetting begins... BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #2
Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama Cha Nov 2015 #11
Bernie knows that without the Obama Coalition, he doesn't have a chance in Hades to win the nom. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #27
He should have thought of that in 2012.. when he was demagoging him to be primaried. Cha Nov 2015 #28
He is a good dancer when it comes to answering questions, this is another one. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #3
BS has a very bad memory. he said on national tv the opposite of what happened. It's documented Cha Nov 2015 #9
Interesting how memory comes and goes. He was praising President Obama today, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #17
Oh really? bernie the expedient politician.. now he sucks up to President Obama. Too little Cha Nov 2015 #18
We remember for sure. See where nasty gets one? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #19
Bernie is a liar ... plain and simple n/t cosmicone Nov 2015 #4
Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama Cha Nov 2015 #10
Reaction quotes from Obama campaign senior officials: Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #5
Gawd, that's hilarious! President Obama was making fun of the rebubs. It makes me Cha Nov 2015 #7
I thought it was a pretty obvious jab at Republicans too. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #12
I read he said he couldn't because he wasn't a Dem. I haven't verified that. Cha Nov 2015 #14
Someone else told me it was because it was the same year as his Senate race. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #15
That would be the year bc bernie ran 1st time in 2006 when Obama campaigned for him. Then Cha Nov 2015 #16
So now bernie's sucking up to President Obama.. No, you don't get to fucking re-write history Cha Nov 2015 #6
Many of them probably wish he was more like them Gman Nov 2015 #13
Kick & recommended. William769 Nov 2015 #20
He made an odd statement regarding Obama Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #21
Hmmm mcar Nov 2015 #22
I hope all these statements make it to main stream. FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #23
Which means the initials "BS" are wildly suitable for him. n/t Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #24
Video: Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #25
Thanks for that. Nothing like a person's own words to put things into proper perspective. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #29
He was so passionate about it. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #30

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
1. I think it's pretty clear that Sanders has always sucked at supporting Democrats and done nothing...
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 03:09 PM
Nov 2015

to fund raise for anyone but himself.
If he actually were a Democrat, he would rate as a shitty one. Instead he is a Socialist who has been snarking at Democrats for decades. He has recently pretended to join our party even though he despises it and had vowed to never be so hypocritical as to join it.
What are we to make of him? His fellow house members do not seem to like or trust him and have endorsed his opponent in droves. Is he some kind of Quisling? Or is he just your run-of-the-mill political egomaniac? Hard to tell.

It seems that the bulk of his supporters are Libertarians, extreme left wingers and gun folk. Most of the people in those groups dislike President Obama as their common ground so it's not surprising that he distances himself from the President as much as possible.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
8. Not surprising he distanced himself bc his fans don't like PBS but now bernie sucks up to him..
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

what are his fans to think of that?

"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "

Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
26. He's done very little. He supported Jesse Jackson in '84 and '88, knowing darn well the man
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:22 AM
Nov 2015

who, years later, said beneath his breath on Fox "News" Channel with a hot mic in reference to President Obama, that he'd like to "cut his nuts off" has ZERO chance at winning.

But that's pretty much the extent of his support for Democrats.

It seems that the bulk of his supporters are Libertarians, extreme left wingers and gun folk. Most of the people in those groups dislike President Obama as their common ground so it's not surprising that he distances himself from the President as much as possible.

It's why I continue to keep the Obama family as my avatar. I want them to know that I am, have always been, and will forever be an Obama supporter, and I never let an opportunity slide to remind these people what Senator Sanders had said, on multiple occasions on teevee, that it was a "good idea" to primary a beloved and our first Black president who saved this country from total economic collapse.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
11. Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:58 PM
Nov 2015
"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "

Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/

Now bernie's sucking up to President Obama. And now Gov O'Malley and Obama's supporters know what kind of a person he is, BlueCali

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
27. Bernie knows that without the Obama Coalition, he doesn't have a chance in Hades to win the nom.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:28 AM
Nov 2015

He's doing poorly with Blacks, Hispanics/Latinos, and Asians. He can't win without them.

It also doesn't help that his supporters would rather go online and browbeat people into supporting their preferred candidate instead of taking to the streets and begin that million man/woman march - NOW - to help their preferred candidate.

Bernie Sanders is suffering lack of name recognition because his supporters aren't doing anything to change that.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
28. He should have thought of that in 2012.. when he was demagoging him to be primaried.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:39 AM
Nov 2015

The browbeating from BS's supporters have taken their toll with no end in sight.

#BlackLivesMatter got theirs and anyone who supports Hillary have had more than enough from that bunch.

Hillary has changed Hearts and Minds.. BS fans aren't changing anyone's heart or mind.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. He is a good dancer when it comes to answering questions, this is another one.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 03:26 PM
Nov 2015

He only remembers what he wants and thinks others forget.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
9. BS has a very bad memory. he said on national tv the opposite of what happened. It's documented
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:52 PM
Nov 2015
"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "

Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. Interesting how memory comes and goes. He was praising President Obama today,
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 05:27 PM
Nov 2015

Wonder where he will be next week. I am hoping he has seen the hand writing on the wall now that he is a Democrat. He is about as high as his poll numbers are going and destroying Democratic candidates is not going to help get any of issues enacted if a Republican gets elected.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
18. Oh really? bernie the expedient politician.. now he sucks up to President Obama. Too little
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

and way to late for calling for him to be primaried in 2012.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
10. Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:55 PM
Nov 2015
"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "

Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/

Yes he is.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
5. Reaction quotes from Obama campaign senior officials:
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:12 PM
Nov 2015

"Their take on Sanders’ role: In 2008, he got on board with Obama late. In 2012, he was either attacking the president from the left or doing little to get him elected. As for “vigorously” supporting him, they said, Sanders was not someone they thought of as a top surrogate.

“Every indication we had was that he was considering a primary challenge,” said one senior official from Obama’s 2012 campaign.

“Being annoying,” another said when asked to recall how they remembered Sanders in 2012.

A third senior Obama campaign aide from 2012 said Sanders was simply not often top of mind."

Ouch!

Funny, a Sanders partisan pressed hard on me the other day that Obama was *totally* thinking a Sanders presidency would be like an Obama third term and supported him, etc. I thought that was probably incorrect.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
7. Gawd, that's hilarious! President Obama was making fun of the rebubs. It makes me
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:45 PM
Nov 2015

wonder if these people are actually that dense or they're making shite up hoping others will buy?

Well let them think that .. I think we know who the President wants to carry on his legacy and ol coattails Bernie is not going to be anywhere near him.

This really pisses me off that Bernie's trying to take credit for supporting the President in 2012 when he called for him to be primaried.

Obama's going to be cementing his legacy in 2016 and Bernie is not going to be anywhere near him.


On This Day: President Barack Obama greets audience members after delivering remarks on infrastructure, the economy, and creating jobs by increasing exports, at the Port of New Orleans in New Orleans, La., Nov. 8, 2013 (by Pete Souza)

Thank you, Starry.

"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "

Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/


Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
12. I thought it was a pretty obvious jab at Republicans too.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:59 PM
Nov 2015

Odd what people will grab a hold of.

I still think it was pretty chicken of Sanders to suggest that Obama face a primary, but not put himself up for it. He felt strongly enough about it to say it several times in the press. I guess he felt brave enough to run against HRC, maybe he figured this would be easier for him.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
14. I read he said he couldn't because he wasn't a Dem. I haven't verified that.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 05:07 PM
Nov 2015

weasel words.

You can see by Bernie's statement that the reason he gave to primary him is false.. Millions aren't disappointed except repubs.

"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "

Millions support President Obama.

Bernie has no credibility. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
15. Someone else told me it was because it was the same year as his Senate race.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 05:12 PM
Nov 2015

That seemed like weak tea to me. If you feel so strongly about taking down the first Black President, and one of the most popular Presidents, you should stick to your principles, right?

Cha

(297,503 posts)
16. That would be the year bc bernie ran 1st time in 2006 when Obama campaigned for him. Then
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 05:18 PM
Nov 2015

in 2012 Bernie wanted the President prmaried.. only he didn't want to do it for whatever weasel reason.

Now's he sucking up to President Obama and being disingenuous on national tv.

oh and what "principles"?

Cha

(297,503 posts)
6. So now bernie's sucking up to President Obama.. No, you don't get to fucking re-write history
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

because you need Obama now, sanders.

" In 2012, he was either attacking the president from the left or doing little to get him elected"

Now Gov O'Malley and the President's supporters know what kind of person BS is.

"Let me just suggest this. I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president; who believe that, with regard to Social Security and a number of other issues.. "

Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A ‘Good Idea’ To Primary President Obama


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/07/22/277124/bernie-sanders-primary-obama/

Thanks msrizzo!

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
21. He made an odd statement regarding Obama
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:02 PM
Nov 2015

He stated that without push back Obama would just go further to the right. That is a tinfoil hat thing to say. Obama was/is not going right.

Sanders is lying about things that we can see in video that he clearly said. He is re-writing history.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
23. I hope all these statements make it to main stream.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:47 PM
Nov 2015

I heard him on the Ed Schultz show on tv saying the same thing about wanting him primaried.
He can't make up stories that he was such a great supporter.
Maybe his age is showing and he can't remember or he's just a person who doesn't know the truth about what he said multiple times.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
30. He was so passionate about it.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:10 PM
Nov 2015

It's like he went on tour. I wonder who he thought would run against Obama as he suggested, since he didn't have the conviction to do it himself?

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