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sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:00 PM Aug 2015

On Changing Hearts

There is a lot of discussion going on about this recently released video of Hillary Clinton talking to members of the Black Lives Matter movement - and rightly so. These are things we need to say to each other and discuss openly.



I have to say that the minute I saw this, I thought about what Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. said on this topic.

Now the other myth is one that we hear a good deal and that is that legislation cannot solve the problem that we face in the area of civil rights and in the area of racial injustice, that you've got to change the heart. I'm sure that you've heard this. You can't legislate morality.
You've got to change the heart, and often politicians use this to keep from passing fair housing bills and other legislation that's necessary to grapple with the problem. Now certainly I believe in changing the heart. As I said a few minutes ago, I'm a Baptist preacher, and that means that I'm in the heart- changing business. I preach Sunday after Sunday about conversion, the need for regeneration, the new birth. I believe in what some call original sin, if not as a historical event then as a mythological category to explain the universality of the "gone-wrongness" of human nature. I believe in that, and I think that the heart needs to be changed. I don't want to criticize this totally. I simply want to point out that there is another side. I know that if we are to come to the glad day of true integration, true brotherhood, that men will have to rise to the majestic heights of being obedient to the unenforceable, not doing it because the law says it but because it is natural and right. I recognize that.

But after saying that, it is necessary to go on to say that there is another side. It may be true that morality cannot be legislated, but behavior can be regulated. It may be true that the law can't change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless. It may be true that the law can't make a man love me, but it can restrain him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important also. So while the law may not change the hearts of men, it does change the habits of men if it is vigorously enforced. When you begin to change the habits of people, attitudinal changes begin to take place, and they begin to adjust in an amazing way to things that they never thought they could adjust to, and I've seen this over and over again. There is still a need for vigorous legislation, and legislation that's strongly enforced to deal with many of our social problems.

http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/08/on-changing-hearts.html
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On Changing Hearts (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2015 OP
I said it once and I will say it again William769 Aug 2015 #1
She stayed and talked, exactly. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #3
She was very reasonable and made some good points in that conversation. Kath1 Aug 2015 #5
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2015 #2
K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #4
MLK was so right. okasha Aug 2015 #6
"For those who aren't that quick," sheshe2 Aug 2015 #7
+1 Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #8
SOMEONE PLEASE SEND THIS TO HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN. I KNEW this was what she meant. Hekate Aug 2015 #9
Hey sweets. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #10
Aloha Hekate.. “You’re not going to change every heart, you’re not,” she continued, Cha Aug 2015 #12
“You’re not going to change every heart, you’re not,” she continued, Cha Aug 2015 #11
I am bookmarking this thread Hekate Aug 2015 #13

William769

(55,148 posts)
1. I said it once and I will say it again
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:21 PM
Aug 2015

At least she did not stomp away with her tail between her legs, she stayed & talked.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
5. She was very reasonable and made some good points in that conversation.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:49 PM
Aug 2015

Hillary didn't run away. I find that impressive.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
6. MLK was so right.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:36 AM
Aug 2015

Regulate the behavior, and hearts will change in the next generation or sometimes even sooner. It happened very rapidly with equal marriage.

For those who aren't that quick, obey the law and fake it till you make it.

Hekate

(90,827 posts)
9. SOMEONE PLEASE SEND THIS TO HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN. I KNEW this was what she meant.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 03:47 AM
Aug 2015

Hillary is and always has been a policy wonk. I understood immediately the reality of what she was saying. "You can't change people's hearts. You have to change the process. You have to change the laws. If you don't, we'll be having this same conversation in 10 years."

Then I visited DU and cringed. Everywhere I looked, friend and foe alike were pissed at Hillary and saying she had blundered and shown a lack of empathy.

Dr. King was a preacher of the Gospel, but he was also a realist. This is a brilliant find, Sheshe.

sheshe2

(83,925 posts)
10. Hey sweets.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:19 AM
Aug 2015

It was brilliant.

I agree.

Thank you.

I will write you tomorrow. Much to tell you. Late and I am doing my best to hand someone there ass in the AA Group.

I gotta go soon.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
12. Aloha Hekate.. “You’re not going to change every heart, you’re not,” she continued,
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:47 AM
Aug 2015

stepping closer and pointing with both hands at Jones. “But at the end of the day we can do a whole lot to change some hearts, and change some systems, and create more opportunities for people who deserve to have them.”

“So we can do it one of many ways. You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through it you may actually change some hearts. But if that’s all that happens, we’ll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation. We will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.” ~Hillary~

riversedge http://www.democraticunderground.com/110

No, Hillary didn't "show a lack of empathy".. they just wanted it to be so.

#BlackLivesMatter

Cha

(297,692 posts)
11. “You’re not going to change every heart, you’re not,” she continued,
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:18 AM
Aug 2015

stepping closer and pointing with both hands at Jones. “But at the end of the day we can do a whole lot to change some hearts, and change some systems, and create more opportunities for people who deserve to have them.”

“So we can do it one of many ways. You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through it you may actually change some hearts. But if that’s all that happens, we’ll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation. We will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.” ~Hillary~

riversedge http://www.democraticunderground.com/110715767

Thank you for Martin Luther King's thoughts on this via smartypants, she

"It may be true that morality cannot be legislated, but behavior can be regulated. It may be true that the law can't change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless. It may be true that the law can't make a man love me, but it can restrain him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important also. So while the law may not change the hearts of men, it does change the habits of men if it is vigorously enforced."

#BlackLivesMatter

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