Whoa! (HILLARY GROUP)

[DeepModem Mom]

Strong stuff here: @CarolynRodham: Open letter to the Democratic party: Bernie Sanders has made it perfectly clear that he doesn’t want to be a Democrat http://t.co/bcyPkvkrd5 (via Twitter)

[OKNancy]

1. I'll read it, but boy does that site suck

with the color background. I'll have to highlight the text to read

[William769]

11. Windows 10 edge browser (reading button) made this very easy to read without having to highlight.

[OKNancy]

18. thanks for the tip!

ETA: I tried it... perfect.

[riversedge]

36. I have not downloaded windows 10 yet. but soon.

[William769]

38. For me I have not regretted it at all.

I am so loving Windows 10. DirectX 12 on Windows 10 for gaming can't be beat!

[riversedge]

40. Guess I have been a bit scared to try it. but you

give me encouragement. Thanks

[MADem]

2. Hard to read--best bet is to highlight it. To be clear, this is one person's opinion about Sanders,

not anything Sanders himself has said. This is the view of an activist -- and the point being made really has as much to do with Sanders' supporters (some of whom are a bit, shall we say, unkind) as Sanders himself.

I suspect the reason the Democratic Party machine gave Sanders the protection of their big tent is because they'd rather have him in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in. He's not winning any super-delegates. Not a one, yet, that I have heard of. Clinton's got at least 200, I think.

[FloridaBlues]

4. He has stated numerous times he's not a democrat

He trashs the Democratic Party often last week in politico he stated Democratic Party is politically bankrupt.
Well news flash cranky old man don't look for us at the local level to gotv in our precincts. This socialist will be lucky to get 35% in any national polling that should be his ceiling
Sorry had to rant

[MADem]

7. He'll have to answer for that, eventually. For the time being, the DNC has given him

safe harbor under our big tent, to mix metaphors.

While there are many of us who will vote for the nominee, there will be some who just stay home if he somehow wins the nomination (and I do not see a path for him--he can't compete once the ads start running-not without PAC money, which he refuses to take, and he has zero superdelegates). His stump speech is nice, but it's the same shit, over and over, and he doesn't show us how he gets from pipe dream to reality.

He's a nice guy--I just don't think he'll make it. SOME (not all, mind you--some) of his supporters can be really vitriolic, stupid and nasty. They don't help their candidate when they act like that, so we should be careful to not imitate them. It's easy to want to lash back out, but it's just not a good move.

Clinton has the better arguments, she has the international credibility (which candidate knows EVERY world leader by their first name?), she has a long record of experience, and she has the backing of most Democratic leaders.

Watch out for Politico--they love to shit-stir! They're owned by a wingnut family of creepy Republicans, the same people who kicked Bill Mahr off of ABC after Nahn Wun Wun.

[question everything]

20. This is something that I don't understand

He was asked yesterday by Chuck Todd, and I've asked on these pages - GD - and the answer is that in Vermont one cannot register, or be elected? as a Democrat. Yet, Senator Patrick Leahy is a Democratic Senator.

[msrizzo]

31. I heard that too.

BS explanation, but nobody calls him on it.

[George II]

32. You're very generous with that 35%

[William769]

13. Yes it is one person's opinion about Sanders

But many people hold that same opinion. I happen to be one of them.

I use to like Senator Sanders but it has become abundantly clear that he has no business on a national stage. The more he talks the more I do not like him especially when I think of him sitting in the oval office (already went through 8 years of that once, don't plan on doing it again).

[riversedge]

37. He seems so grumpy

so often. IMHO. But I think his heart is in the right place.

[cosmicone]

3. Would you mind if this is posted in GD primaries? n/t

[misterhighwasted]

6. Why are you in the Hillary Group? Because you area HRC Supporter.

EDITING for the right reasons.
Here from the comments:

"I am disgusted with the Democratic Party that I have been active in for 60 years. Sanders is not a Democrat. He uses the word to run as he knows he cannot win as a Socialist or as an Independent.

Sanders has nothing in common with the Democratic Party. It would be a disaster for the Democratic Party to nominate anyone as its standard bearer who took the label of Democrat whereas he has done nothing but bad mouth Democrats and could not get a single endorsement from any Democrat in Vermont. 

The stakes are high, but I cannot see myself ever voting for Sanders."
-----------------------

Thanks Bernie fans. You will not get the Dem votes you were counting on. The vileness of Bernie supporters towards the other Dem candidates will destroy the Dem Party & hand the Presidency to whomever the GOP runs in the GE.
It is not the fault of Sanders, its his supporters.
Bernie Sanders will never defeat the GOP in the GE. He will lose the support of many of the voters of the Dem Party.
Support your Dem candidate but to borrow the GOP talking points to destroy the Dem competition will, in the end alienate their huge voting block.
Sanders' supporters sound a lot like Republicans lately.

[yallerdawg]

9. Cosmicone is an ardent supporter of Hillary!

I am certain Cosmicone would like to see this posted in GD/P for it's soothing message!

Good luck, Cosmicone!

[misterhighwasted]

10. Oh, sure enough. How did I not know that. tks yallerdawg

to you cosmicone..I'd be preparing for a battle if posting this in GDP but do so at your peril.

Apologies..I mistook you for another.
However, i think also, that it may be necessary for some to read the truth of how Sanders is viewed by true members of the Dem Party.
Good luck.

[cosmicone]

14. Did you miss my Avatar and signature image? n/t

[misterhighwasted]

17. On my phone. Neither shows on screen.

My sincere apologies cosmicone.
Geez I'll be back as soon as I remove the remaining egg from my face
I think this should be posted everywhere & more like it too.
On my way to work. Hope to see you post this OP and many more like it.
I believe there are a lot who feel the way the OP does.
Time to make that point clear to all who read DU.

[yallerdawg]

19. For Cosmicone and misterhighwasted!

You all both fight in the trenches out there!

Keep up the good works! Visitors to DU should know and be reminded there are Democrats still here!

In case they can't find our safe haven corners!

We have to keep our corners!

[George II]

33. Mister and Cosmicone, there are several "cosmic" screen names here...

...the others ARE Sanders followers.

[DeepModem Mom]

12. I wouldn't mind at all! Would you mind posting the article...

as posted by you? I'm cowardly and post only in "protected groups."

[yallerdawg]

15. I hear ya!

If it weren't for our safe havens, I'd be looking for a Democratic website!

[cosmicone]

22. I posted it and it was alerted on ... looks like it servived the jury!! n/t

[yallerdawg]

23. Cosmicone is now on timeout.

Fought the good fight, too many don't like 'alternative' opinions.

Hope we'll see you back soon, cosmicone!

[DeepModem Mom]

26. Say what??? Oh, goodness. Bless all of you that venture bravely out of the safe havens.

[George II]

35. Unbelievable! Clinton can be called a whore and it stands, at least her first hide expires in 3 days

[DeepModem Mom]

25. Oh, my goodness!

[yallerdawg]

5. Democratic Party loyalists, if it means anything:

I resent, terribly, that my party has allowed this man to crash our primary and forced us to endure insults and criticism from his hateful, misinformed supporters, many of whom are not Democrats. They have infiltrated every Democratic group on social media and lecture loyal Democrats about how we are splitting our party by speaking the truth about their candidate, who isn’t a member of our party. It’s insane and they are so uninformed that not only are they ignorant of history and facts, they don’t even understand the purpose of a primary.

[freshwest]

29. Yes, it's been too much. n/t

[Thinkingabout]

8. Bernie used to be an Indepentent Socialists, now he is a Democrat Socialists.

Yes, he is using the DNC for his advantage and is trying to tell Democrats he way is better than the way we have known for years. Not happening here, after the Rachel Maddow show last week spotlighting Democratic candidates I know why I do not like the Bernie way.

[DeepModem Mom]

16. You're right! I forgot! Until now he was always Senator Bernie Sanders (I, VT)!

I'm IN Vermont.

[Tommy2Tone]

21. I find nothing in this article I don't agree with

Good stuff.

Now the site. What a mess.

[DeepModem Mom]

24. LOL. Sorry. I found the article in a Tweet! n/t

[Tommy2Tone]

30. It was just hard to read..but still a good post..Thanks!

[Jennifer Kay]

27. Hm.

Everyone is aware of the downsides of running a national campaign as an independent--and at many times history has revealed that reality. Moreover, the fact that he caucuses with the democrats gives him basis to run on the democratic ticket--and not to mention his policy positions. These articles often seem as a sleazy attempt to derail his credibility, and therefore his candidacy.

[Cha]

34. Oh you mean like BS supporters are trying to "derail" Hillary's campaign with "sleazy attempts"..

This is Hillary's Group. For her supporters.

[Jennifer Kay]

39. Err.

I do support her. However, I think to advocate for her is to show support for her and positively market her within the Democratic Party (independents , ect)--and not to waste time complaining about something that you cannot and will not be able to change.

[Cha]

41. Nothing "sleazy" about this.. except from BS.. " He has mocked the party, spent months spreading

dishonest information about President Obama, convinced his fans that he alone is responsible for everything that Democrats have said and accomplished for decades."

It's a freaking fact.

Welcome to the Hillary Group, Jennifer.

[Historic NY]

28. Sander said on tv his supporters aren't registered Democrats.....

its awfully funny that he expects states to roll over to accommodate him too.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/bernie-sanders-im-talking-about-life-or-death-issues-n410686

[Cha]

42. Yeah, we'll see how accomodating everyone is.. about as accomodating as he is. that would

be fair.