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DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:21 AM Aug 2015

The one big reason neither Donald Trump nor Bernie Sanders can keep this up: (HILLARY GROUP)

Basically nobody who follows politics in any depth thinks either Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders could be elected our next president.

And yet here we are, with the unelectables rising to the top of their parties’ polls. Trump leads basically every GOP poll of the 2016 race, and Sanders – an independent socialist senator from Vermont – just crested Hillary Clinton in his very first poll in New Hampshire....

Voters are actually pretty smart in that they know these guys probably can't win. A June Monmouth poll showed 59 percent of Democratic voters said Sanders would have a worse chance than Clinton; only 13 percent thought he'd have a better chance. A CBS News poll last month, meanwhile, showed 78 percent of Democratic voters said Clinton was their most electable candidate, while just 5 percent said that of Sanders. That's even as 17 percent supported Sanders.

So clearly, even his supporters know the deal. They just don't care -- at this stage.

But unfortunately for Sanders and Trump, this lack of focus on electability is very unlikely last. That’s because, as the election nears, the stakes become clearer. Casual voters suddenly become quite interested in actually winning in November....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/13/the-one-big-reason-neither-donald-trump-nor-bernie-sanders-can-keep-this-up/?postshare=1591439474184305 via Washington Post

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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. 420 days to Election Day....no other country in the world has an election campaign over a year long because
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:33 AM
Aug 2015

every country realizes folks in general do not give a rat's ass who is even in all the polls the political media and junkies obssess about.....because....420 days?!

Canadians are apparently complaining a lot about their 11 week campaign, double the norm!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Reagan never had an "electability" problem. In fact, his likeability as a consequence of
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:47 AM
Aug 2015

his "B" film career and "Death Valley Days" made him very appealing. His gubernatorial record overseeing one of the largest economies on the globe made those who liked what he was saying tell themselves that he wasn't just a pretty face.

What bothered most thinking people were his cruel policies. Rather than addressing those head-on, his opponents made the mistake of snarking about him and making Bedtime For Bonzo jokes.


He lacked organization in his first foray into Presidential politics, but he corrected every mistake the 2nd time around and we suffered the consequences for eight long years.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
4. The primary campaign doesn't really start until late Fall.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:56 AM
Aug 2015

The Trump and Sanders' camps should have wished for a much later peak.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. I agree that that's they way it has always been done in the past.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:28 AM
Aug 2015

But it's not necessarily the way it will go in the future. We've always had two plastic, centrists with hardly enough difference to see between them. The old "hold your nose and pick one" or "what the hell, I'm just going on to work" syndromes.

IDK, but there is something perhaps revolutionary in the lineup this year. Hillary and Jeb were the In Group.

The gaggle of Republican candidates we call the Clown Car, and the rather dignified Democratic candidates,with one starting to stand out. There's a reason for that. People are not used to an honest and forthright 99% supporter. The word is getting out. That is history, in my book, and I believe America prefers to have this revolution at the voting booth.

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