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NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:46 PM Aug 2015

**HRC Group** 100,000 people have attended Bernie Sanders events this month. That doesn’t mean much.

From the Washington Post:

Let's say the Republican field more closely mirrored the Democrats. Imagine there were two Republicans running for president, Jeb Bush and Not Jeb Bush, where Not Jeb Bush did a better job appealing to the outer boundary of the party. Do you think that Not Jeb Bush couldn't roll up 20,000 people at a campaign stop in, say, Houston?

This is the point at which the question invariably turns to the contrast between Clinton and Sanders. Clinton isn't drawing these crowds, the argument goes. Sanders is capturing the energy. Both of which are true points. Sanders, as the underdog and the newcomer, has an energy that Clinton doesn't. She is not drawing the same crowds.

Part of this, though, is a conscious decision. Sanders, coming from the back of the pack, has to show that he's a legit candidate. He needs to be chuffed up. He needs to look big. Clinton has been trying to do the opposite. Her campaign launch was a Sunday e-mail followed by a road trip to Iowa. She's doing her best not to look like a behemoth. Her unofficial launch, on Roosevelt Island, was a neatly tailored group of a few thousand, packed into a space meant to display an audience that size for the cameras.

Could Clinton fill an arena in Los Angeles if she wanted to? Of course she could. Unquestionably. If you think Hillary Clinton can't do basic body mobilization when she needs to, you haven't been paying attention to American politics for the past few decades. There are unions in Los Angeles that can fill a stadium on a week's notice. This is not as big a task as it looks.


Anyone who thinks Hillary doesn't know exactly what she's doing vis-à-vis her campaign is severely underestimating her. She's been in politics for decades. She's already run a massive national campaign, and she's been planning this for years.
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**HRC Group** 100,000 people have attended Bernie Sanders events this month. That doesn’t mean much. (Original Post) NYC Liberal Aug 2015 OP
K & R Iliyah Aug 2015 #1
We know this.... BooScout Aug 2015 #2
Feel the (crash and) Burn cosmicone Aug 2015 #3
Mahalo for the article, NYC Liberal! Cha Aug 2015 #4
Still.... msrizzo Aug 2015 #5
Her campaign will hold large rallies when ready. FloridaBlues Aug 2015 #6
I know that's true. msrizzo Aug 2015 #7
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #8
Hello Cora Rose OKNancy Aug 2015 #9
"There are unions in Los Angeles that can fill a stadium on a week's notice." Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #10
I'm happy for the Bernie people in this moment. I just hope we (or most of us) will be friends.... Hekate Aug 2015 #11
I'm a Bernista but I'm subscribing to this group tblue Aug 2015 #13
Solidarity! Hekate Aug 2015 #15
Some of the pundits like Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #12
Most voters really haven't started paying attention... ellisonz Aug 2015 #14

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
2. We know this....
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:16 PM
Aug 2015

...but you will never convince folks that it's not all about the bern.....they see what they want to see and forget about reality.

msrizzo

(796 posts)
5. Still....
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:27 PM
Aug 2015

This week has been very depressing for me. I feel like people on both the left and the right are living in an alternate reality that I don't understand. They just won't stop trying to crush her with the media cooking up all the scandal that will continue to feed the hate-beast. Sorry, my spirits are low. I think I might have to take a little break. Ugh.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
6. Her campaign will hold large rallies when ready.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:25 PM
Aug 2015

They will be large . I remember the extra large crowds gathered for her last campaign
When 99.9 % of polls show him losing there's silence from his supporters.

Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
9. Hello Cora Rose
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 05:22 PM
Aug 2015

Bye

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To the jurors of this post ( 5-2 hide)

Thank you. Juror who said we can remove it... no we can not. We can only block.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,241 posts)
10. "There are unions in Los Angeles that can fill a stadium on a week's notice."
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 01:54 PM
Aug 2015

And Seattle. And Minneapolis. And Burlington.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
11. I'm happy for the Bernie people in this moment. I just hope we (or most of us) will be friends....
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:18 PM
Aug 2015

....when the General Election comes up.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
13. I'm a Bernista but I'm subscribing to this group
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:57 AM
Aug 2015

because part of me is rooting for Hillary too and I don't like the way she is constantly put on the defensive. There has always been a VRWC with its sights set on Hillary. She does not deserve and never has deserved this.

Solidarity!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
12. Some of the pundits like
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:11 AM
Aug 2015

Katrina Vandel Huvel claim that the media is shunning BS and not treating him fairly, but IDK about that. I don't watch FOX or CNN so IDK about what they're saying, but all of the talking heads on MSNBC at least have discussed his large crowds every day , as if they will necessarily translate into votes (and they give him plenty of interviews). Ron Paul also drew large crowds, but never got close to winning many states or the nomination, so right now I have the "show me the money" mindset. Once he rises in the polls (and not just in IA or NH), then I might pay attention to what the talking heads say about the race tightening.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
14. Most voters really haven't started paying attention...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:02 PM
Aug 2015

...there hasn't even been a Democratic debate yet. The Sanders crowd is simply attaching themselves to everything they possibly can in an attempt to thwart the Clinton campaign. I was a Deaniac, we had big crowds, didn't win a single primary.

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