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Why Hillary Clinton needs to win California next week
Yes, Hillary Clinton is just 72 delegates away from crossing the 2,383 magic number needed for a majority of delegates to win the Democratic convention. Yes, she's likely to hit that milestone before polls even close in California (due to the New Jersey primary and its 126 pledged delegates). And, yes, even if she loses in California by 10 points, her lead over Bernie Sanders in pledged delegates would still be twice the size of Obama's lead over Clinton in 2008.
But here's the reason why Clinton needs to beat Sanders in California next week: She doesn't want to give him any legitimate rationale to remain in the race beyond June 7 or June 14 (the final primary in DC). Why? Because as our colleague Dante Chinni writes, the moment Sanders exits the race, her poll numbers against Trump will increase. "[T]o get a better look at where the Clinton-Trump race might stand after the nominating dust has settled, we recalculated the latest NBC/WSJ poll with Clinton capturing 70 percent of the Sanders-only vote. The result: those Sanders-only voters are worth an extra five points to Clinton. In the NBC/WSJ poll, Clinton's advantage over Trump goes from three points to eight points and she leads 51 percent to 43 percent."
Maybe that's why Clinton has canceled an event in New Jersey this week to spend more time in California, as NBC's Kristen Welker reported on "Today" this morning.
the past month is move the goal posts while trailing Clinton by 270 pledged delegates and more than 700 overall delegates. Here was Sanders before New York's primary, which he lost by 16 points: "We will win a major victory here in New York next Tuesday." And here he was before the Pennsylvania primary, which he lost by 12 points: "You know what? I think we're going to win here in Pennsylvania next week." And here was Sanders on "Meet the Press" last Sunday: "I think we have a good chance to win in California, maybe win big, and maybe win four or five of the other states that are off on June 7th California is the big enchilada, so to speak."
Given these past statements, even if Sanders loses in California, it's possible to see him continue his campaign. But a loss in the Golden State would leave him without any legitimate rationale to flip superdelegates, especially when he trails in pledged delegates and the popular vote. And Sanders even acknowledged that reality on "Meet": "Obviously, if we don't do well in California, it will make our path much, much harder. No question about it," he said. The current Democratic delegate math:
In pledged delegates, Clinton currently holds a lead of 270 delegates
Clinton 1,770 (54%)
Sanders 1,500 (46%)
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realmirage
(2,117 posts)Just more double standard bullshit for women. No man ever had to meet these expectations. Double the work for the same pay? That's the new progressivism I guess.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)riversedge
(70,245 posts)to win CA. love the " Double the work for the same pay? That's the new progressivism I guess" but I have never viewed the toad as a progressive.
by Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)She doesn't need to win but be nice to put BS to rest....
realmirage
(2,117 posts)that she needs to do anything other than get more votes like every single man that came before her. If they had balls they'd be saying that instead
riversedge
(70,245 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)regardless. He's loving the attention and he needs every last dollar he can scrape up to pay his campaign debts.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)We'll be smelling bern'ed toast on Tuesday
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Or had the losing candidate try to dictate who their VP pick was going to be. Or have the credentials of convention committee chairmen questioned for no other reason than they supported the winning candidate.
You're right, realmirage, Hillary doesn't need to win shit. She's already won the nomination. Everything else about the Democratic primary now is just clickbait.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)Exactly
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Reasons, excuses and momentum mean nothing. Delegates Delegates DELEGATES!!!!!!
stopbush
(24,396 posts)a woman/a Clinton/a Democrat/fill in the blank.
Besides, Hillary could pull 60% in CA and Sanders still won't step aside due to male privilege/owes too much $/not really a D/fill in the blank.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....delegates, putting her about 300 ABOVE the needed 2383, not to mention a few delegates in Montana and the Dakotas.
Once that happens the 100+ uncommitted superdelegates will be flocking to her campaign.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)She doesn't need to win CA, but it would be a nice moral victory. She does, however, need to end the night at 2026 pledged delegates, something that's more like to happen then not since she's ahead in the state and probably has 46-47% baked in no matter what. That ends the Sanders narrative effectively. This CA is the biggest prize narrative is just another goal post cooked up by the media and the Sanders campaign to have their horse race. The real number of the night is 257 (this excludes the June 4/5th primaries). She's going to get that from PR + NJ + CA easily because these are places where Sanders will never pull off landslides. That is all she needs to have a majority of the pledged delegates something that Sanders can't argue with.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)It's not JUST keeping Bernie out of the general election. It's keeping Cornel West out of the Platform Committee. The more Hillary stomps Bernie by, the less room he has to pull his shenanigans.