Vile.

[geek tragedy]

These people call themselves progressives.

Part of a pattern.

Feel free to pass these links along to anyone denying misogyny motivates some of the nastiness towards her from so-called progressives.

[Tal Vez]

1. They seem very disappointed.

I'm sure that this isn't a very easy time for them. I still get disappointed when my candidate loses, but over 4 or 5 decades there have been so many of them that my attention returns to the future very quickly. There's no point in continuing to suffer.

[geek tragedy]

2. Decent human beings don't handle disappointment that way. nt

[anotherproletariat]

5. So true. nt

[Tal Vez]

6. Well, everybody's different.

There seem to be an awful lot of unhappy people out there. Some people are in a lot of pain and they seem to think that political events are the source of all their pain. That's very unhealthy and it's very unhealthy because none of us have much control over the political environment in which we live. I am just one of hundreds of millions of people in this country.

I think that it is much healthier to view the political environment much as we view the weather. I don't expect to be able to control the weather, but i can own a raincoat. In the same way, I can arrange my affairs so as not to be so dependent on political outcomes for my well-being. If I am taking care of myself, I can cheerfully try to make a contribution to our political system and then accept the results without too much suffering.

We have been granted the gift of life. We should appreciate and enjoy it.

So, I feel sorry for people who become bitter or miserable over political setbacks.

[geek tragedy]

8. I've been upset about events before.

Never called a woman the c-word.

[Hortensis]

11. Very nice post and agree with most. It's easy to forget

on line that we are all multifaceted people and that we are usually only seeing one facet, an extremely skewed view.

That said, the facet revealed of people who react nastily in political disappointment is not decent, and I don't believe it should be excused, either just for itself or as "normal" behavior. These people are represented on political forums in numbers far beyond their actual percentage of the population. And for most the current nastiness is merely the next stage of a very unworthy hostile aggression that has been displayed all year.

[BlueMTexpat]

56. +1! eom

[Her Sister]

35. Love the sanity in HRC group! Thanks for this post!

[ismnotwasm]

40. .

[still_one]

14. exactly. You don't take your disappointment out with misogynistid sexist insults

[Surya Gayatri]

41. Most sane adults don't handle disappointment this way...

So, what are we left with? Demented, bratty adolescents.

[Cha]

9. That's no excuse for that.

[UtahLib]

3. Notice

that the only person objecting to the filth is placed on 'vacation'.

[geek tragedy]

4. That's what hate sites do. nt

[riversedge]

48. I have heard of that site but never visited it. Indeed, it is vile and shameful that they

smear a Democratic candidate that way. just shameful



Still4Hill Retweeted
Pat Fuller ?@bannerite 17h17 hours ago

Ask yourself why they are so admired by so many? They R the real deal. Not some phony con man [Trump] selling u snake oil!

[still_one]

12. wow. That speaks volumes in itself

[SunSeeker]

7. ...

[gwheezie]

10. All that anger because Bernie is losing?

Honestly, if warren had decided to run instead of Hillary they'd be saying vile things about Warren.
Amazing how when a female says the c word is like the n word a male corrects her, "no it isn't. " Pathetic. Fuck 'em.

[sarae]

20. I noticed that.

I also saw a post where they're saying Trump may actually turn out to have a "heart of gold" because he calls out Hillary or something.

LOLWUT

Y'all, Trump's the true feminist. We've all been fooled by Hillary.

[Agschmid]

28. Yup.

[Lucinda]

13. That place is a cesspool. n/t

[BlueCaliDem]

60. Whenever the word "Radicals" pops up in a site's name, don't expect common sense

reasoning from its members. Those members are, indeed, radicals, and the Democratic Party has - thankfully - kept the radicals OUT of our Party, making only ONE mistake this time around with Sanders (a lesson they've learned from).

Radicals are ideologues. They're not interested in policy-making or helping the poor and downtrodden. Ideologues only believe in word-salads and being contrarians and insufferably argumentative. These types are sold on and only believe in the myth that the 'good' is truly the evil of the 'perfect', although 'perfect' is subjective there.

So I give them very little notice or credibility. Whereas people who have ideal ideas where a society should be headed, at some point they wake up and smell the coffee and get to work. That change doesn't happen with radicals/ideologues. These people carry their "perfect worldview" over in their protests, arguments, and their version of reality, but they have zero desire to actually see progress. It's all about the screaming, shouting, arguing, and perpetual theorizing for them, with little else.

[forjusticethunders]

66. It's ego and laziness and fakeness.

They want a shortcut to being a good person, without putting in the work to BE a good person. It's despicable. I cannot stand people like that because it's so disingenuous and fake. Even if you have a radical ideology or viewpoint, the fact that one prioritizes purity over actually HELPING PEOPLE WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT makes me so angry and infuriated because I, THOUGHT it was about helping the downtrodden, I THOUGHT changing the system was for the sake of people who are struggling, but it's just stupid virtue signaling, just rich and privileged kids giving lip service to the issues that the people struggling and hurting in this world face just so they can puff themselves up and act like they did something when they did NOTHING because they refused to work with other people to get it done. Who the fuck gave them the right to decide that 50% wasn't "good enough"? Is it because they don't need the help, so they're only in it for the self-aggrandizement?

I bet you most of these BernieBros are going to vote Republican in 20 years, because their personalities are Republican. Selfish. Ego-driven. More concerned about looking good to others than doing what's right.

Sorry if I'm sounding too angry but, well, I am. I'm very sensitive about being taken advantage of.

[barrow-wight]

15. That site is crazy.

I haven't seen that much crazy on a website since Marshall Applewhite and his Hale-Bopp Comet Nike Sneaker suicide cult.

[barrow-wight]

16. I think I'm going to start calling it JonesTownRadicals.

That just makes more sense for what it is.

[Squinch]

17. Summer camp for the women-hating kids! What a bunch of assholes.

I never look in there on my own, but every time someone here links to it, I find another person who I used to like saying something disgusting.

It's sad what this campaign has done to them. And it's sad that BS keeps doing it to them for no reason.

[beachbum bob]

18. remember sealots are that way for a reason....its always my way or the highway

and they never play nice with others....kinda describes bernie too....he has appealed to the fringe extremists, the same who take to the streets and riot at WTO and World bank meetings.....these extremist share more in common with their teaparty brethren than democrats

[DLCWIdem]

19. what is even worse

Is when you start to get people who defend this.language..... such as

Are we getting upset with swearing now?
When you are more upset with words than....

Statements that seem to imply it is just swearing without the meaning behind those particular words.

[sarae]

21. And the men telling the women

that, "Yes, it's ok to use the C word because it's not sexist if you use it for Hillary."



OH, IS THAT HOW IT WORKS?! I need someone to dudesplain these things for me.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. Let them eat cake

In empty chairs at empty tables.

[ismnotwasm]

47. I caught that too

Cracked me up

[Kingofalldems]

22. Ah, this explains what happened last night.

Got into it with the c-word guy.

[obamanut2012]

44. PM me the link?

In between UFC and Game of Thrones, wasn't on here much last night.

[Starry Messenger]

24. Jackpine was a very sweet man.

One of the worst things is seeing his du name appropriated for that trash site. He wouldn't have been onboard for the ugliness of this primary. He died, and doesn't get a voice now, except for those who claim all of that shit in his name.

[yallerdawg]

27. My first interaction with JR and 'The Group' - and a classic description of GD!

Those were the days...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi05cG824HNAhWK4yYKHYJUBaUQFghVMAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F10244450&usg=AFQjCNG_HBvXJCR6HVcCMcr7Gh0Sc3bwpA

[Starry Messenger]

29. Great reminder.

Losing him was gutting. A true gentleman.

[yallerdawg]

38. I am so looking forward to the end of the..."extreme divisiveness"...

that has 'pushed' me away from "Socialist Progressive" and "Labor" group 'participation'.

I want to celebrate the world's victories and the real progress we are in the midst of - the progressive achievements and the pragmatic successes within the political system we have - and the changes occurring in that system!

I still believe one thing holds true.

"Democracy is the road to socialism."

[Starry Messenger]

59. Same here.

That quote is what guides me too.

[geek tragedy]

31. It's really obscene--he was such a sweet man. nt

[KittyWampus]

63. Agreed. You and I have been on DU and bickered about things and agreed about things...

there are many DU'ers that the same could be said of… squabbles and agreement.

And Jackpine was a decent sort.

It's mind-blowing how many other DU'ers have gone off the rails over Sanders.

IMO, the fact there was no moderating the behavior just allowed things to constantly escalate and created an atmosphere that normalized bullying and authoritarian behavior.

[Surya Gayatri]

42. Exactly...total hijacking of the name and fame of a now defunct, honorable DUer.

[wysi]

62. It's an awful shame...

... that they misappropriated his name for their circle jerk.

[yardwork]

68. I've often thought the same thing.

[JustAnotherGen]

25. I forgot it existed

Their site, their TOS, their rules, their language. I wouldn't want TM's volunteer job though. And he tried. I give him credit for moderating within the guidelines as best as he can.

What kills me? How many members there voted to hide or alerted in seabeyond for colorful language? Go back about two years ago and I would sometimes post the exact same thing that sea posted - but drop the f-bomb from the post. Mine would stay. She also had me post a thread on white privilege - a kind of experiment. Something like 300 recs. Had she posted it - it would have received a hide.

[Squinch]

32. Twice I reposted posts of hers that got hidden without changing anything. Mind didn't get hidden.

[obamanut2012]

46. She has been targeted for years

[quickesst]

30. I wonder if...

... Free Republic has adopted Lack-lyin Crapicals as a credible source yet.

[Walk away]

33. Gee! All of those folks seem so familiar!

They almost seem identical to the folks in a certain Group here at DU!

But how could that be? I am sure that no one in that group are sexists or republican shills.

Oh well, whoever these anonymous lowlifes are, I'm sure a site like Democratic Underground would never allow them here.

(note to alerters: I am not being sarcastic at all)

[sufrommich]

34. That first link can't be adults talking,can it?

They sound like children throwing a temper tantrum.

[TwilightZone]

53. When that fake DMX video made the rounds, I watched the intros to a couple of Sanders CA rallies.

The guys introducing him looked about 12 and sounded just like some of these posters.

[Her Sister]

36. They are Regressives!

Not progressives!

Why do we need to coddle these people? Again?

[DemonGoddess]

37. they're not progressives

They're hateful, nasty trolls.

[ismnotwasm]

39. Oh, THAT place?

(And After all the shit Bill took for his beautiful website) it's upheld by some as some sort of intellectual oasis. The people who post there truly believe this. They honestly, and without reservation think this.

[obamanut2012]

43. JFC some of those posters are known feminists on here, too

And have been active in the women;s-interests groups on here.

It is vile, no different than Trump. No different than if such a thread in 2008 had listed "hilarious" race-baiting names and slurs about Obama.

[geek tragedy]

49. I don't recognize any of them from the History of Feminism group, or from the MRA wars.

Generally they're misanthopists.

[obamanut2012]

50. There are at least two I recognize

[geek tragedy]

51. apparently their feminist writings were a charade nt

[TwilightZone]

52. As is most of the stuff they post on DU.

As we get closer to the end, the veils are coming off pretty quickly. Some of them couldn't be more obvious now.

[obamanut2012]

65. Has to be

I am shocked tbh.

[TwilightZone]

45. And yet, these same people - in DU form - freak out if Sanders is called a mean old guy.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

[Fla Dem]

54. Ohhh, let's call Hillary names. How childish. Reflection of the owners of the site.

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How can you take these people seriously when their main weapon of attack is to use gutter language and name calling.

Frankly, I don't care what they do on that site. The only people they attract are similarly inclined neanderthals. At some point it will crash under it's own weight of the crap they spew.

I hope one day the more reasonable members of that sewer site look in a mirror and are ashamed of the image looking back at them.

[SharonClark]

57. JPR is where a lot of the worst Hillary haters went when they left Daily Kos

They felt Kos was stifling they're ability to express themselves. JPR is a Bernie site and only allows pro-Sanders and Hillary-hating posts. Too bad so many are trolling their own site with their hate and there is no adult to show them the way.

Reminds me of Lord of the Flies.

[geek tragedy]

58. This is who they are nt

[NastyRiffraff]

61. Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!

That's the first and last time I will go to that dive-bar toilet. You know, the one that hasn't been cleaned for years and the smell can make you ill. What a horrible bunch of people. I don't CARE if they're in pain, disappointed or whatever. That's no excuse for acting like monsters. (With apologies to monsters everywhere)

[Bobbie Jo]

64. These idiots make me sick.

[BooScout]

67. You should email those links to both campaigns....

Send the links to the Sanders campaign and the Clinton campaign. Some of those comments are totally disgusting. Do people have no shame?