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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:50 AM May 2016

HRC GROUP. "Bernie's Endgame is Dumb, Delusional and Dangerous" Great Read from HillaryHQ

THURSDAY, MAY 19, 2016

Bernie's Endgame is Dumb, Delusional and Dangerous

Feel the Me...or else.
Lord help us.


SNIP
"Ahh, so Bernie intends to inflict a "heavy blow" on the candidate who will, without question, be the presumptive nominee on June 7th. But that's not all! His ultimate goal is to convince hundreds of delegates to change their minds at the convention this summer, simultaneously overturning the will of the voters and uniting the party behind him for the general election. Sounds easy enough, right?

And he's crossing his fingers for a little something extra to get him there: 

Advisers to Mr. Sanders said on Wednesday that he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future. They said he also held out hope of capitalizing on any late stumbles by Mrs. Clinton or any damage to her candidacy, whether by scandal or by the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump.

Allow me to translate: Bernie has been reduced to "holding out hope" for a miracle indictment of Hillary over her damn emails. Or hey, maybe Trump will truly do some damage while the senator sits on his hands and does absolutely nothing to help her.

That's just pathetic."






From the comment section :

1 comment:

annibannaniMay 19, 2016 at 4:02 PM

Your worst fear, my sad expectation, and he can't damage her more, now he's starting to damage himself. 

It's about money, he's in deep debt from all the overspending, he thought it would go on forever and it's drying up, only those who hate Hillary the most and are crazy as bernie are still giving him money. Those who will never vote for her are the exact number who donate in May. They are lost souls. 

He'd always blamed Hillary for what she'd had little or nothing to do with, it was always crazy and destructive, and now he's obviously a selfish old fake-hippie crackpot, he's just sure she is running the DNC and that all they want is to keep Bernie Sanders from the nomination he didn't win and is now way too behind to warrant notice. He is a fringe candidate. He's always been a fringe candidate. This is what happens with the press does not vet. 

But finally he looks as crazy to anyone looking as he's looked to me since the day he went on Maddow to proclaim Hillary lied about being told that DOMA was a stop-gap to prevent a constitutional amendment (DOMA made marriage a state right, and allowed any state to pass or not pass marriage equality, and it had built in 'not constitutional'). 

And Maddow didn't say, you can't know that you old fart, you don't know every meeting she ever had. Why didn't she?

Maddow didn't know herself there could have been worse than DOMA? She thought Bernie could see through walls and that he knows everything? She hates Hillary too? 

And they've kept it up, she did not "advocate for war," but Bernie gets to say she did. Bernie does not have a better record on war than Hillary, he has a self-serving completely unprincipled record on war. 

They have created and abetted this delusional old-fart fraud, and now he's in debt and the only way he can keep his illegal contributions is to run in the general. 

He's setting himself up to run third party, even if he qualifies in only a few states, so he can be a general election candidate and not have to give it back

I hope his rational donors ask for refunds.


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Snood

(5 posts)
1. I suspected Bernie of being a deluded crackpot before it was cool
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

Used to hear him for years on a Thom Hartmann segment on XM radio called "Weekends with Bernie". He'd take questions and spout his applause-line platitudes. I used to think about how easy it must be for him to just say what the furthest left wants to hear, over and over. When he entered the race I tried to defer judgement because I, like others, was aware of the good that could come from a legitimate challenge to Hillary from her left. It had the potential of producing enlightening debate and producing a much better prepared nominee, among other things.

But Bernie and the people managing him have gone on to earn every bit of Democrats' disdain. He's become blinded by all the attention and adulation (that is, if he ever had pure intentions to start with) and now it's all about one old man's grasp to hold on to fame - and Hell take the hindmost.

I guess the best we can hope for is if he musters the decency to bow out after California. After calling Hillary a corrupt crook for months, any direction to his followers from him to get behind Hillary will surely lack credibility, but as I said I think it's the best we can hope for. At this point it seems more likely that he'll just keep on stirring shyt right into the convention, but I hope not.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
4. So well stated Snood, your post deserves its own OP
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016


He should end his campaign today. Ca will not save him.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
2. If Sanders were to be the nominee, would the election be called Dumb and Dumber?
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:30 AM
May 2016

Good thing we will have some one with a high degree of intelligence as our nominee.

I want or President to be the smartest person in the room, not some buffoon like bu$h was or Trump is.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
3. Yup, we'd all be screwed if it came down to bernie & donald
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

I can't even get my head into that horrific scenario.

Thank the great gods for one brilliant Hillary Clinton.
Madam President 2016..^H

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
5. DOMA politics was similar to the 1994 Crime Bill. There was worse out there and Bill vetoed two of
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

them before negotiating the final one that included violence against women and midnight basketball and a few other provisions helping minorities.

caquillo

(521 posts)
7. How does he expect to inflict a 'heavy blow' to Hillary in CA?
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

He's not gonna win that state by over 70% -- or whatever percentage he needs to win by. Hillary is currently polling by double-digits, but even if it comes down to the wire, and he or she wins by a couple points, it won't make much of a dent on the deficit; they'll just split the delegates, and she'll still be farther ahead.

Unless he's hinting at something more sinister...

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
8. One problem, as was noted in the article, is that a lot of his supporters are political neophytes.
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

They don't understand context because either this is their first rodeo or they haven't bothered to become familiar with political history or the history of the topics they incessantly rant about. They don't understand that DOMA was a bad alternative in a sea of worse ones. They don't understand that the crime bill was passed because people were in a bit of a panic at the violent crime rates - and nearly everyone was behind it, including, hypocritically enough, one Bernard Sanders.

Since they have little concept of context or history of these events, it's easy to sell them the Speak-and-Spell version and expect them not to question it. More seasoned political viewers understand context, because many of us have been politically active for decades. In many cases, they are events that we lived through. For those we didn't, we've been doing this political junkie thing for a long time and have learned much about them along the way. Nothing is ever black and white.

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