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DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:22 PM Jul 2015

Here it is, from the NYT Public Editor: "A Clinton Story Fraught with Inaccuracies"

The story certainly seemed like a blockbuster: A criminal investigation of Hillary Rodham Clinton by the Justice Department was being sought by two federal inspectors general over her email practices while secretary of state.

It’s hard to imagine a much more significant political story at this moment, given that she is the leading candidate for the Democratic nomination for president.

The story – a Times exclusive — appeared high on the home page and the mobile app late Thursday and on Friday and then was displayed with a three-column headline on the front page in Friday’s paper. The online headline read “Criminal Inquiry Sought in Hillary Clinton’s Use of Email,” very similar to the one in print.

But aspects of it began to unravel soon after it first went online. The first major change was this: It wasn’t really Mrs. Clinton directly who was the focus of the request for an investigation. It was more general: whether government information was handled improperly in connection with her use of a personal email account.

Much later, The Times backed off the startling characterization of a “criminal inquiry,” instead calling it something far tamer sounding: it was a “security” referral.

From Thursday night to Sunday morning – when a final correction appeared in print – the inaccuracies and changes in the story were handled as they came along, with little explanation to readers, other than routine corrections. The first change I mentioned above was written into the story for hours without a correction or any notice of the change, which was substantive.

And the evolving story, which began to include a new development, simply replaced the older version. That development was that several instances of classified information had been found in Mrs. Clinton’s personal email – although, in fairness, it’s doubtful whether the information was marked as classified when she sent or received those emails. Eventually, a number of corrections were appended to the online story, before appearing in print in the usual way – in small notices on Page A2.

But you can’t put stories like this back in the bottle – they ripple through the entire news system.

So it was, to put it mildly, a mess....

http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/publiceditor/2015/07/27/a-clinton-story-fraught-with-inaccuracies-how-it-happened-and-what-next/?referrer=

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William769

(55,147 posts)
1. And the band wagon by some on DU smelt blood in the water.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jul 2015

Only once again to be let down.

Will they ever learn?

lark

(23,105 posts)
17. One of them fought long and hard with me that Clinton was ABSOLUELY being referred
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:31 PM
Jul 2015

to the justice dept. for criminal activity. Funny, I've heard nothing from him since the full retraction was done. He's just another person with Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

lark

(23,105 posts)
18. I'd say "no" to the learning question.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

The people that piled on her immediately and gleefully are now nowhere to be seen.

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. This is the important part of this article, way down at the bottom:
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 02:41 PM
Jul 2015
"I’ll summarize my prescription in four words: Less speed. More transparency.

After all, readers come to The Times not for a scoop, though those can be great, but for fair, authoritative and accurate information. And when things do go wrong, readers deserve a thorough, immediate explanation from the top. None of that happened here."

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
11. Well....
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:50 AM
Jul 2015

That doesn't do much for me after I read “You had the government confirming that it was a criminal referral,” Mr. Baquet". So did the "government" get it wrong or did the "government" have an agenda? Considering the Times articles about the Clintons have been questionably "slanted", are they relying on the wrong "government" sources? Now they are trying to walk back and apologize, but now I question and suspect their intentions even more going forward.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
5. "We lunged at the chance to tear down Hillary Clinton like sharks around chum
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jul 2015

and now we look like assholes. Our bad!"

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. They have had to retract stories about both Clintons before this. I believe that it was done...
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:02 PM
Jul 2015

on purpose. They don't seem to actually care about the damage they are doing to these people or our country. I have supported that paper for 35 years, Now I hope it goes down the tubes.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Once the story is out of the bag, they can retract and rewrite and apologize all they want...
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:34 AM
Jul 2015

...the rightwing and the Sanders followers will still use the original concept of the article against her from now until Hillary Clinton's re-election campaign in 2020.

They did their job and accomplished their goal.

Cha

(297,320 posts)
16. NYT writers should Always take Josh Marshall's Advice to his reporters..
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:04 PM
Jul 2015
How Did This Happen Exactly? - By Josh Marshall

Great advice from Josh Marshall.. especially to writers @ NYT..

"What I frequently tell reporters who I work with is to run this little thought experiment when you're about to publish a big piece or something a lot rides on. Pretend that the story blows up in your face. And you have to explain to me or your editor what went wrong. If you're the reporter in that case, you take your lumps but when you have that conversation you really want to be able to say and explain how you covered every base, checked every box on the list and it still went wrong. When you go through that exercise it often makes you think of some box that hasn't been checked that you really want to have checked if you find yourself in a real version of that hypothetical conversation."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/how-did-this-happen-exactly

DonViejo http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251473979#post10

Mahalo DeepModem Mom
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