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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:43 PM May 2016

We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair & Asked Them to Explain Themselve

I imagine more of these stories will drip out. This man--Ethan wants his privacy but had no morals when he left a threatening message. His story is unbelievable. I just shake my head!!



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We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair and Asked Them to Explain Themselves

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Anna Merlan
Today 11:15amFiled to: nevada

Thanks to some extremely zealous Bernie Sanders supporters, the Nevada State Democratic Convention this past weekend was a particularly epic disaster, devolving into yelling, graffiti, chair-throwing and many, many threats and insults phoned in to Democratic State Party Chairwoman Roberta Lange. Yesterday, we called some of the threat-makers back, to get some insight into why they thought that was a good plan.


.............“We know where you live, where you work, where you eat,” another text to Lange read. “Where your kids go to school/grandkids. We have everything on you. We are your neighbors, friends, family, etc.”

The person who sent that one is a 26-year-old named Ethan
with a Wisconsin area code, although he assured me the number was fake (and, I assume, the name was as well).

“Do you know what the concept of Anonymous is?” he asked me, immediately.

I said that I did. Ethan explained he’d been undertaking an Anonymous-esque action, but also, that he was trying to play a threatening character deliberately, to send a message.

“She is very much a top person,” Ethan said, referring to Lange. “The establishment and people like her have been on the internet themselves writing posts that try to incite hate. Try to incite frustration. They pay off trolls to start problems and stuff like that.” (For example, a pro-Hillary PAC spent $1 million to hire people to “correct” Facebook and Reddit commenters.)

Ethan’s purpose was to represent angry people, he told me, not to express his own views.

“I created a character, a scary—kind of a Jason kind of character,” he explained. “Looking at what the establishment is afraid of, a scary Joker-like character who’s like the boogeyman under their bed.”


I told him I thought anyone would probably be alarmed by those texts; that I, as someone who voted Sanders, found them alarming and wrong-headed and a generally bad response to a convention that didn’t break Sanders’ way.

“I understand where you’re coming from,” he replied. “But people are getting frustrated and I only have $300 to my name. I have no ability to get anymore help than I can. I’ve been working and breaking my back over this,” he said, meaning supporting Sanders.

Ethan has “bad disabilities,” he explained, one of which makes it impossible for him to work. “I heard people tell me I’m lazy, I’m useless. I can’t even go to college.”

In the midst of all that, he said, “my intent was to give her back what she and the establishment have been doing for the last few days.”

I told Ethan that to me he sounded frustrated and disaffected and a little lonely. I asked if maybe Lange had come to stand in for a whole bunch of things that weren’t working well, personally and politically.

“It’s not that,” he said. “It doesn’t matter if you’re in Nevada or in Washington. If you’re working for the government, you need to understand that people are frustrated.” The threats, he said, were “a warning.”

“If you don’t listen to the people, this is going to happen,” he said. “People get so frustrated. They’ll find out where some of these people live and it’ll be a huge bloody revolt. You need to listen before it turns into that.”

“Who are you talking to?” and older woman’s voice shouted worriedly from the background.

“Please don’t tell anyone my name,” Ethan said, as we hung up. “I like my privacy.”.........

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We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair & Asked Them to Explain Themselve (Original Post) riversedge May 2016 OP
He is angry at the wrong people. This is crazy. Actor May 2016 #1
Ethan the asshole. stopbush May 2016 #2
The level of self-delusion evident in some of those statements is remarkable. TwilightZone May 2016 #3
Maybe he's on medication Rose Siding May 2016 #18
They can't even define what goals they think they're threatening people over... TwilightZone May 2016 #19
Very interesting. auntpurl May 2016 #4
Ethan should be arrested for making a terrorist threat. SunSeeker May 2016 #5
I hope somebody turned this bro revolutionary asshole terrorist into the law workinclasszero May 2016 #6
"Ethan" sounds like a certifiable loser bluestateguy May 2016 #7
I wonder how many more are out there? JustAnotherGen May 2016 #8
That is fascinating. NurseJackie May 2016 #9
Typical Internet trolls mcar May 2016 #10
"kind of a Jason kind of character" Jason Voorhees? The movie serial killer? BobbyDrake May 2016 #11
That is indeed the intended reference. TwilightZone May 2016 #21
Why am I not surprised that these idiots are Bernie Supporters??? Walk away May 2016 #12
Ethan aka "Jason" needs a visit from the real life FBI Haveadream May 2016 #13
"“Please don’t tell anyone my name,” Ethan said, as we hung up. “I like my privacy.”........." nini May 2016 #14
Ethan is stupid. DURHAM D May 2016 #15
He sounds to me mercuryblues May 2016 #16
I like the part where Ethan's mom comes in... wysi May 2016 #17
Honeymoon Guy is my personal favorite LisaM May 2016 #20
I have a friend like that. He rails against American culture and consumerism. Meanwhile... TwilightZone May 2016 #22
LOL. And probably uses Apple products, LisaM May 2016 #23
Ah, yes. TwilightZone May 2016 #27
He sounds like a chardonay socialist bluestateguy May 2016 #25
DU members? ronnykmarshall May 2016 #24
well, that thought had not occurred to me. but now that you bring it up.. riversedge May 2016 #26

Actor

(626 posts)
1. He is angry at the wrong people. This is crazy.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016


The GOP is the problem, in the larger sense anyway.

Sure, both parties are too far right, but why are you going after the one that still fights for you at least to some degree?

Crazy.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
3. The level of self-delusion evident in some of those statements is remarkable.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

If anyone doesn't believe that some on the left can be just as easily influenced and malleable as the right, here's exhibit A.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
18. Maybe he's on medication
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:02 PM
May 2016

I'd like to hear more from the rest of the, I want to say terrorists?

terrorist act the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear. terrorist cell a cell of terrorists (usually 3 to 5 members)

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=def%20of%20terrorist

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
19. They can't even define what goals they think they're threatening people over...
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:10 PM
May 2016

so I think maybe they're more delusional morons than terrorists. Not that they couldn't be both, of course.

To be clear, I think that the threats should be taken seriously and dealt with appropriately by whatever law enforcement agencies have jurisdiction. A little visit from the Secret Service might also provide a little perspective. Your tax dollars at work.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
4. Very interesting.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:51 PM
May 2016

Also helpful for refuting the boatload of Bernie supporters going around saying the threatening callers were Hillary supporters or GOP plants. Could never be Bernie supporters, of course not!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. I hope somebody turned this bro revolutionary asshole terrorist into the law
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

Maybe those poor kids he scared to death would sleep better at night.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
8. I wonder how many more are out there?
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016

He sounds very sad - and very frustrated with his life circumstances.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
11. "kind of a Jason kind of character" Jason Voorhees? The movie serial killer?
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

I can't even fathom how someone could think that was a good idea. Unbelievable.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
21. That is indeed the intended reference.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

But, we're supposed to believe that Bernie Bros don't exist. This guy could model for the poster.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
12. Why am I not surprised that these idiots are Bernie Supporters???
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:13 PM
May 2016

They seem to fit the profile.

What they have done is, apparently, a federal crime so....meet the FBI Bernie Bros!

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
13. Ethan aka "Jason" needs a visit from the real life FBI
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

That way his cinematic role-playing fantasy can have a big dose of reality. He has broken laws and needs to be held accountable. His "poor me/disabilities/I'm not lazy" defenses sound like garden variety sociopathic excuses for criminal behavior.

nini

(16,672 posts)
14. "“Please don’t tell anyone my name,” Ethan said, as we hung up. “I like my privacy.”........."
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016



DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
15. Ethan is stupid.
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016

He thinks Lange works for the government.

He clearly has mental health issues. I just hope he doesn't have a gun or a car.

wysi

(1,512 posts)
17. I like the part where Ethan's mom comes in...
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

Further evidence that the Bros are a bunch of young loser white guys with mommy issues.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
20. Honeymoon Guy is my personal favorite
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

He actually makes the assertion that this is all like a third-world country, then excuses himself to go plan a honeymoon! How third-world! Maybe he's going to Maui! (and maybe he's one of those people who's taken to registering for their honeymoon so that their parents' friends can foot the bill for things like two nights at the hotel, etc....)

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
22. I have a friend like that. He rails against American culture and consumerism. Meanwhile...
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

he has a wife, three kids, works for a bank, owns rental property, and drives an SUV.

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